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Journal by DannyB

First, I would just like to point out that today, Monday March 6, 2023 is the 20th anniversary of the SCO vs IBM lawsuit. That should have been a front page story on SN. It is on the green sight.

Two bad I cannot have too journal entries in one day that everyone would notice. Which brings me two FL Senate Bill 1316 (2023).

Another Day, Another Blatant Attack On The 1st Amendment From The Florida GOP

I keep hearing people pretend that the GOP in general, and Florida GOPers more specifically, and Governor Ron DeSantis most specifically, are fighting for “free speech,” when they continually seem to push blatantly unconstitutional legislation designed to attack free speech and the 1st Amendment in a way that keeps getting Florida shot down in court by judges (while wasting tons of taxpayer money).

But they just don’t stop. The latest is a laughably unconstitutional bill from Florida Senator Jason Brodeur, SB 1316, that violates the 1st Amendment in so many different ways.

The bill has a section on “blogger registration and reporting.” Basically, any blogger reporting on the Florida government in a professional (paid) capacity has to register with the government and file “monthly reports” on who is paying them and how much they’re being paid.

Their true message, motives and hypocrisy:

  • Registering guns would be an infringement on 2nd amendment.
  • Registering blogs is NOT an infringement on the 1st amendment.
  • Registering to vote is not considered an infringement on the right to vote.

Or if it is a 1st amendment infringement, the Republicans do not and never have really cared about free speech as evidenced by how they view "Big Tech" as a platform that should be forced to carry messages that are unacceptable and repugnant to most people.

As I've said before there is no such thing as a free speech absolutist. They are as fictional (or perhaps as rare?) as unicorns.

If more guns made us safer, as some falsely say, then the US would be the safest place in the world and would have fewer not more shootings than every other developed country in the world. Our schools wouldn't be shooting galleries. No other country seems to have this problem. Our nightclubs wouldn't be shooting galleries. Nor our streets.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @04:10PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @04:10PM (#1294765)

    Fine, kill this bill. But don't come back whining about unlimited money in politics, Super PACs, or Citizens United v. FEC.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday March 07, @01:52PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 07, @01:52PM (#1294923) Journal

      But don't come back whining about unlimited money in politics, Super PACs, or Citizens United v. FEC.

      We shouldn't implement terrible law just because there are problems in the world. You miss also that if this were passed as law, it would be illegal. If you have to break the law to make the law, then you're doing it wrong.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday March 07, @09:47PM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday March 07, @09:47PM (#1295012) Journal

      But don't come back whining about unlimited money in politics, Super PACs, or Citizens United v. FEC.

      It is already illegal to do any of those things without proper public disclosure. Making the Free Press register with the government changes nothing along those lines.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @04:38PM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @04:38PM (#1294768)

    Our resident left-leaning (or so he claims) 2nd amendment dude hates authoritarian regimes, or so he claims.

    Anonymity is the key to whistleblowing. What protection does Florida have to prevent becoming a one party dictatorship?

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by DannyB on Monday March 06, @04:53PM (4 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 06, @04:53PM (#1294771) Journal

      It's not a one party dictatorship! It's a theocracy! Please don't confuse the two. A theocracy does not have one single central figure that everyone worships as happens in a dictatorship.

      --
      How often should I have my memory checked? I used to know but...
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @05:48PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @05:48PM (#1294795)

        A theocracy does not have one single central figure that everyone worships...

        Very funny!

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Monday March 06, @05:59PM (2 children)

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 06, @05:59PM (#1294797) Journal

          A dictatorship has a deer leader. Or great venison overlord.

          --
          How often should I have my memory checked? I used to know but...
          • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @11:54PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @11:54PM (#1294853)

            Oh deer lord.

            • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday March 07, @04:28PM

              by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 07, @04:28PM (#1294952) Journal

              That would be a theocracy which is different than a dictatorship.

              --
              How often should I have my memory checked? I used to know but...
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 07, @06:04PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 07, @06:04PM (#1294972)

      Our resident left-leaning (or so he claims) 2nd amendment dude hates authoritarian regimes, or so he claims.

      The only way to stop a bad guy with a blog is a good guy with a blog!

      Anonymity is the key to whistleblowing. What protection does Florida have to prevent becoming a one party dictatorship?

      It's almost too late to be asking that question. Wake up and smell the coffee!

    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday March 07, @09:52PM (5 children)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday March 07, @09:52PM (#1295016) Journal

      What happens if we criticize DeSantis in Morse code by firing guns into the air?

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 07, @10:05PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 07, @10:05PM (#1295020)

        In that case DeSantis becomes a human Klein bottle and disappears up his own ass. Next question?

        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday March 07, @10:12PM (3 children)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday March 07, @10:12PM (#1295021) Journal

          How many guns do you have?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 08, @12:45AM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 08, @12:45AM (#1295041)

            None. Why do you ask?

            • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday March 08, @07:12PM (1 child)

              by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday March 08, @07:12PM (#1295163) Journal

              Well I have one gun for the Morse Code but to truly test your hypothesis we're gonna need a control gun as well.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 09, @02:41AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 09, @02:41AM (#1295226)

                If you are planning what I think you are planning then you will also need a second DeSantis as a control.<shudder> There are some experiments that are just too dangerous to attempt.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @04:53PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @04:53PM (#1294772)

    May break my bones,
    But words are worst of all!

    From the party that uses snowflakes, woke, and mocks safe spaces this is their standard hypocrisy. Cry about fake problems, then implement the real versions with extra xenophobia.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @05:17PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @05:17PM (#1294779)

    I can't decide if I will register as aristarchus or runaway.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @05:30PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @05:30PM (#1294785)

      Seriously, though, I think everybody on the internet - real and virtual - should register for this.

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday March 06, @05:42PM (3 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 06, @05:42PM (#1294791) Journal

      How about runaway aristarchus?

      Or aristarchus the runaway?

      Aristarchus occurs five times in the new testament. (Acts 19:29, 20:4, 27:2; Col 4:10, Phil 1:24) But runaway does not occur.

      --
      How often should I have my memory checked? I used to know but...
      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 09, @04:12AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 09, @04:12AM (#1295231)

        If only aristarchus would Runaway! He's still hanging around here, falsely pretending to be an AC. Only the constant vigilance of the janrinok keeps us from utter registration with waco MAGA Republican governors of failed states!

        • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday March 09, @06:19AM (1 child)

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Thursday March 09, @06:19AM (#1295250) Journal

          He's still hanging around here, falsely pretending to be an AC.

          Yes, yes he is!

          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 09, @06:51AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 09, @06:51AM (#1295251)

            Yes, we know, janrinok! Calm down, we won't let him post anything critical about you, we will mod it down until the bad ancient Greek philosopher can post no more. We got your back, janrinok, and your sides, and the train that you, um, drag.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @08:06PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @08:06PM (#1294827)

      If you register as aristarchus, you will probably be permabanned! If you register as anything that can be suspected of being aristarchus, you will be banned. The whole program looks like "It's a trap!" Try registering as Adm. Akbar. And fly casual.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @05:28PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @05:28PM (#1294782)

    If the campaign wins votes and reelection, don't blame the politicians and their propaganda. You just have to beat them at their own game and put up real opposition without the lame excuses and blame passing. Let's stop pretending that hypocrisy means anything in this business, in fact, the people are proving it is an asset. Whining about it while reelecting the same old shit isn't going to improve anything.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Monday March 06, @05:46PM (5 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 06, @05:46PM (#1294794) Journal

      It was not intended to be about parties winning. It was intended to be about best policies winning.

      How about if more than one party actually campaigned on actual cognizable policies? Politicians should stop trying to fool gullible people. And some of this is on the people, they should have actual policies before their eyes that they can think about. Not supposed news sources saying how evil other people are and they eat babies in the basement of a pizza parlor. I am pretty sure this was not want was intended in our democracy.

      --
      How often should I have my memory checked? I used to know but...
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @09:55PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @09:55PM (#1294840)

        > It was intended to be about best policies winning.

        It sure would be nice if we could identify the best policies in advance. But I suspect that, back here in the real world, we'll just have to keep muddling along. This paper is highly recommended reading:
              https://www.jstor.org/stable/973677 [jstor.org]

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @10:04PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @10:04PM (#1294843)

          Lol, we already know that universal education and healthcare are absolutely the best methods. Sadly we USAians have greedy morons thay still worship the failed Reaganomics. We also know that the GOP's increasingly fascist policies are bad, but many conservatives support them. The problem is propaganda from the ownership class.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @10:10PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @10:10PM (#1294846)

            Uncle Rupert sued for billions over the stolen election, times a-changing.

            One son already resigned from the company because of their bullshit. Perhaps the other one will change tact too.

          • (Score: 5, Insightful) by cmdrklarg on Tuesday March 07, @04:41PM

            by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 07, @04:41PM (#1294955)

            Reaganomics did not fail. It did precisely what it was designed to do: to take money from the poor and middle class and give it to the wealthy.

            It's not good for the long term economic health of the nation, but that's beside the point.

            --
            Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 07, @05:58AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 07, @05:58AM (#1294880)

        It was not intended to be about parties winning.

        Yeah, yeah, good intentions = road to hell.. bla bla bla... Considering how sloppy it has been since the Shays Rebellion, nobody here has the slightest idea what the intentions were/are. Since nothing has really changed, I'll go with what we have as the intention (occam's electric razor and all that).

        And some of this is on the people

        Damn right it is... They can start by not reelecting crooks into office. The leaders are not dangerous, the followers are.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @10:06PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @10:06PM (#1294844)

    Such freedom, much wow!

    DeSantis wants to become prezictator and make the rest of the US into Florida. Fucking fascists, what an embarassment.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday March 06, @11:25PM (11 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 06, @11:25PM (#1294851) Homepage Journal

    Their true message, motives and hypocrisy:

    Registering guns would be an infringement on 2nd amendment.
    Registering blogs is NOT an infringement on the 1st amendment.
    Registering to vote is not considered an infringement on the right to vote.

    You are so close to understanding an essential truth. If I have to ask government's permission to exercise a right, then it is not a right, it is merely a privilege.

    --
    Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
    • (Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @11:36PM (10 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06, @11:36PM (#1294852)

      LOL. You've got to love when someone makes the same point as the OP and then dances like they've won some great argument.

      You also have to appreciate when they sacrifice one of their long-term positions for short-term gain without even realizing it.

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 07, @12:42AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 07, @12:42AM (#1294865)

        Truly is the best, sadly their brains are so addled they can't admit such to themselves. The culture wars must continue!

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by khallow on Tuesday March 07, @01:56PM (8 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 07, @01:56PM (#1294924) Journal

        You've got to love when someone makes the same point as the OP and then dances like they've won some great argument.

        At least with blog control, we could stop you from shooting yourself in the foot like you did above.

        • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 07, @06:09PM (7 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 07, @06:09PM (#1294973)

          I'm calling it, either khallow is runaway's long lost twin or they are just another sock puppet that never got outed. Khallow is Runaway's 'objective' rightwing account that attempts civility.

          • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 08, @02:31AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 08, @02:31AM (#1295046)

            Khallow is fluffy and libertarianish, Runaway is racist and Trumperting, they could not possibly be the same person.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday March 08, @04:26AM (5 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday March 08, @04:26AM (#1295070) Journal
            Sounds like you're Runaway's sock puppet that attempts stupidity.
            • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 08, @05:20AM (4 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 08, @05:20AM (#1295074)

              Runaway doesn't need a sock puppet to attempt stupidity. His main generates that in droves.

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday March 08, @02:45PM (3 children)

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday March 08, @02:45PM (#1295112) Journal
                You ought to tell yourself that.
                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 09, @12:21AM (2 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 09, @12:21AM (#1295208)

                  Why so upset there buddy? Weird how you leap to the defense of a rightwinger when you call yourself a libertarian, but then again I'd expect libertarians to condemn the GOP's seditious acts such as trump's insurrection. If you'll defend that then not surprising you keep leaping to Runaway's defense more than they defend themselves #CURIOUS

                  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 09, @12:54AM (1 child)

                    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday March 09, @12:54AM (#1295212) Journal

                    Why so upset there buddy?

                    Indeed. Where is your rage coming from? I not hating enough for you?

                    Weird how you leap to the defense of a rightwinger when you call yourself a libertarian, but then again I'd expect libertarians to condemn the GOP's seditious acts such as trump's insurrection.

                    Aside from gnashing his teeth about "groomers" [soylentnews.org] and liberal enslavers [soylentnews.org], Runaway isn't doing a lot of two minute hating. He's not the problem. He doesn't insist that I publicly pretend to get worked up over a protest.

                    • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 09, @04:27AM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 09, @04:27AM (#1295232)

                      You notice that khallow and Runaway never ever post at the same time. Coincidence? I not think!

  • (Score: 2) by Barenflimski on Tuesday March 07, @02:54PM (4 children)

    by Barenflimski (6836) on Tuesday March 07, @02:54PM (#1294934)

    No doubt this bill is ridiculous. I'd have trouble believing that even the lowest courts would find this allowable.

    I'm under the impression this was some low level law maker that submitted this bill, much like the guy in Wyoming that is going to phase out EV's.

    Who actually put this bill up? I haven't dug deep into this as the headlines alone seemed like click-bait.

    Is there more to this than politicians trying to get noticed?

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Tuesday March 07, @04:25PM (3 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 07, @04:25PM (#1294950) Journal

      Like anything from Republicans, it isn't intended to be taken serious as actual policy.

      It is performance art for their base.

      --
      How often should I have my memory checked? I used to know but...
      • (Score: 2) by Barenflimski on Tuesday March 07, @06:55PM (2 children)

        by Barenflimski (6836) on Tuesday March 07, @06:55PM (#1294987)

        Interesting. I know lots of republicans. If they weren't able to freely criticize their politicians, no matter the party, they wouldn't know what to do with themselves.

        Politician performance art for sure.

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday March 07, @10:00PM (1 child)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday March 07, @10:00PM (#1295018) Journal

          Every Republican that freely criticized Trump got kicked out of the party already.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 08, @12:48AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 08, @12:48AM (#1295042)

            Ah, but you see those Republicans were RINOS. So that's...different.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 08, @02:47PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 08, @02:47PM (#1295113)

    The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a blog...

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