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US Republican DeSantis calls Ukraine war a ‘territorial dispute’
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/14/us-republican-desantis-calls-ukraine-war-a-territorial-dispute
Sure, DeSantis. Let's give Russia the Ukraine! Peace in our time!
When they go for Sweden and Finland, hey, just look the other way. Peace in our time!
Poland... Germany... awww, fuck it. I'm sure that's all the Liebensraum they want. Peace in our time!
Some people are just fucking stupid.
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I'll never see a tree at all.
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(Score: 4, Interesting) by khallow on Wednesday March 15, @03:37AM (33 children)
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @04:15AM (4 children)
Like unto khallow, in this regard. Arguing in Bad Faith kinda destroys the entire point of arguing, don't ya think? Unless it is a pretext for war. Khallow, what are you doing? Why are you hoarding all those weapons?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday March 15, @04:23PM (3 children)
Why yes, Russia did argue in bad faith as a pretext for war.
Not sure how that's relevant to the point you are trying to make, though.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday March 15, @04:39PM (2 children)
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @06:19PM (1 child)
Ari posts have the relevance of pointing out the irrelevance of the post to which the ari post is relevant. This is why they are hated so badly by posters who post in bad faith.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @10:51PM
Speaking of witch, isn't it about time to restore aristarchus? I kind of miss him.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @08:18PM (27 children)
If that were so, then failure to act immediately (like for Kuwait) and push the Russians back to the border is a direct violation. Giving just enough aid to keep the war going indefinitely for greater profit is not "protection". Either shit or get off the pot!
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 16, @04:09AM (26 children)
Sorry, I'm not a fan of the current government, but they were acting before Russia invaded. And then they helped support Ukraine to the point it's still a going enterprise a year in.
As to your faux concern about profiteering, you hadn't even heard of the treaty before. Why should we care about your interpretation of it?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 16, @05:50AM (25 children)
Well, obviously you don't care, so of course you would lay out such accusations on others.
Irrelevant
Who's asking you to? Regardless of "my" interpretations, the profiteering is already happening. You are just in denial. War is a for profit business
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 16, @03:52PM (24 children)
Clearly, you're an idiot or you wouldn't have tried such an argument in the first place. Funny how we only hear about these mean profiteers when rationalizing the slimy actions of Russia.
It's relevant because you don't know what obligations the US and Russia actually had under the treaty [wikipedia.org]. It's not a suicide pact, for example. And the treaty greatly reduced the state of nuclear weapon proliferation - a huge US national security interest, but a key condition was respecting the territorial integrity of Ukraine - Russia violated that treaty in 2014.
You are by posting.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 16, @07:20PM (23 children)
As always, your presumptuousness precedes you
Wagging the dog.. It was a US/NATO coup
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 17, @12:24AM (22 children)
This goes beyond ignorance. It wasn't NATO that took over Crimea or those eastern Ukrainian provinces.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @06:23AM (21 children)
The truth is your worst enemy
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 17, @06:04PM (20 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @08:25PM (19 children)
Doesn't matter how many you have, the truth is a big one, as you prove with every response. You're just buying another war
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 17, @10:34PM (18 children)
Sorry, I don't buy that you have a clue, much less that truth is an enemy in the first place. That's just your brain dead narrative. I present as counterevidence the usual nonsense about "truth" as enemy when you can't even say what you think the alleged truth actually is. It's just negative, unfounded affirmation that something else can't be the truth.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18, @05:00AM (17 children)
I would never expect you to, you are brainwashed
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 18, @05:23AM (16 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18, @06:21PM (10 children)
It's being fought in the hearts and souls and retirement accounts of all those good people... people who don't want to connect the dots to WWIII.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 19, @03:55AM (9 children)
Indeed. You just can't help but prove my point for me.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 19, @04:17AM (8 children)
If your point is to shut up, embrace détente, and quit promoting WWIII, then maybe. Doesn't look like that, though.
The Russians love misery, so throwing a few megatons their way gives them even more to sing about. Maybe they will return the favor, and give us something to sing about.
They say that nuclear winter will cancel-out global warming.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 19, @04:39AM (2 children)
That's a great Neville Chamberlain act there. The problem is that Russia already invaded - that cat is out of the bag. The detente didn't happen. Further, it sounds like they won't be in a mood to ease tensions until they've lost a few hundred thousand more soldiers. So it goes.
They have to have enough working nukes first to make it credible. They seem to have a problem with that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 19, @05:01AM (1 child)
Wanna bet your life on that?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 19, @05:23AM
Do we really have a choice? If Putin is threatening to nuke over this, what's next? At some point, we'll need to deal with Mr. Nuke Happy sooner or later. Appeasement has such a futile history.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 19, @05:12AM (4 children)
[citation-needed]
Russians don't get a say on whether they want this war.
Crazy authoritarian dictator Putin just got served by the ICC. The only thing prolonging this war is that their top brass don't want to be dragged before the Hague along with him.
i.e. A few dozen yes-men holding 140 million hostage.
And y'all just pissy because Zelenskyy wouldn't share Hunter's dick-picks with Donnie.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 19, @05:44AM (3 children)
See, khallow, that's one way to tell that not all AC posters smell the same.
Some never thought about Khrushchev banging his shoe on the table, others never saw one of those Lada cars, made out of particleboard. Most never thought about depressing Russian winters, their even more depressing arts, their infinitesimal growing season, their individual independence/dependency conundrum, their need for warm water ports... and Wodka. Makes Fargo look like Miami.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 19, @06:18AM (2 children)
A better way is to get an account.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 19, @06:53AM (1 child)
This is simply a lark for me. Any heavier participation would be aiding the enemy. The point of playing here is to try to get a few to consider the idea that maybe we really ought not so casually throw our country away. We know that most posters — AC or registered — are running at capacity; it's for the casual, probably one-time, lurker.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 19, @01:46PM
In other words, just another clueless AC poster with no intent to argue in good faith. Believe it or not, we already get plenty of those.
And who is "the enemy"? Revealing your hand, are you?
While that is probably the first true thing you've said, let us remember that in reality this is neither casual nor a throwing away of a country - at least not of the US.
And a big thing missed here is that an independent Ukraine is the biggest obstacle to a restored USSR. None of the other former Soviet republics matches it in size or military capability - nor do most other nearby countries - the only other European (here, anything with significant European territory) countries near Russia with a population greater than Ukraine are Turkey and Germany. If Europe were to go for an "every-man-for-themself" strategy, then nothing has the population or military power of Russia. It's defeat-in-detail till Russia hits the Atlantic Ocean. It has to stop now or a lot of Europe might disappear into Russia's maw. We've seen this play before - twice (once with the Czars and once with the Communists).
As to Putin's threat of nukes, he or a similar successor wouldn't threaten less in those later wars - particularly, if it had worked in the present war. The big advantage you miss is that Russia has shown clear weakness now with its incredible military corruption. Put it off to a later war, and Russia gets a chance to put its nuclear weapons in order (and possibly build a lot more nuclear weapons!). and have an even greater nuclear threat in the future.
This is definitely a case where resistance now is the better choice even with its elevated risk of nuclear war. The odds won't get better in future wars if we ignore it now.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18, @07:23PM (4 children)
Heh, just more proof you don't read what I write. If you did, you would understand and just nod your head in agreement, but you choose to believe lies instead, you are indeed a loyal lapdog
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 19, @03:56AM (3 children)
You're anonymous. What have you written here?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 19, @04:24AM
Anonymous posting is dust in the wind.
Your posting is a fart in the face.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21, @04:54AM (1 child)
If you read it, you would know
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21, @06:52PM
Cockeyed optimist.
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @03:55AM (94 children)
America is involved in the war to enrich defense contractors, sell natural gas, and set up a chance to plunder Russia after Putin falls. Russia can't project power outside of its Slavic bubble. China is the actual threat to the world.
Slava Ukraini! Wakanda Forever!
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @08:20AM (2 children)
Thanks Ivan.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @12:19PM (1 child)
THANKS AMERICA FOR BEING WORLD POLICE
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @04:23PM
Team America: World Police
(Score: 2, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday March 15, @10:47AM (90 children)
Bingo. The US has been in the war business for about 75 years, for the purpose of enriching the military industrial complex. But, they put out very convincing propaganda that the masses eat up, which makes all the wars and proxy wars just fine.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @12:08PM (45 children)
That being said, why are you shilling for Putin?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @02:38PM
Putin is not the 'droid you are looking for.
(Score: 4, Touché) by Gaaark on Wednesday March 15, @08:03PM (43 children)
Putin shot first.
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(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @08:10PM (42 children)
So say the yellow tabloids. Remember the Maine!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @08:45PM
Troll
Whoops! Stepped on a war monger's toes again!
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday March 15, @09:08PM (39 children)
Star Wars reference missed. Hand in your geek cred.
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(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @09:49PM (38 children)
No it wasn't. I'm just reminding all of you that none of you know who really "shot first" and started the war. Your mass media is lying, just like they did for the Spanish-American War, and countless others before and since. Apparently destroying official conspiracy theories is a big no-no to the moderators
(Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 16, @12:36AM (31 children)
When one country invades another there isn't much you propagandists can do to sway opinion. The best propaganda you fascists could spit out was some neo-nazi claims against Ukraine. Hardly a justificatiom to invade another nation that is not invading anyone else, doubly so when the propagandists are closer to nazis themselves. You should get a new hobby fustakakrakich.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 16, @06:03AM (7 children)
Yeah, your official propaganda is much more effective. You know nothing, just like with Afghanistan/Iraq. You fall for anything
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 17, @03:56AM (6 children)
You don't get it. Even absolutely no effort at propagandizing would still result in much more effective propaganda because of what Russia did. That's the problem not "official propaganda" cooties. It's not the US's or the West's effective propaganda. It's Russia's deep failures driving this.
Consider the problems: 1) Russia is the initiator and the war is in the Ukraine not Russia, 2) there's a nine year history of Russian misdeeds dating from 2014 - sure, it's unfavorable to Russia that a "US/NATO" coup happened, but it's clearly what Ukrainians want, 3) incredibly weak Russian propaganda: such as phony referendums, lazy lying about building up to the 2022 war, Putin's infatuation with long tables, and unable to articulate a serious reason for invading Ukraine in the first place.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @06:28AM (5 children)
You don't know what Russia did.. You're just repeating your mass media lies (propaganda)
(Score: 4, Insightful) by janrinok on Friday March 17, @11:25AM
I know that Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum [wikipedia.org] in 1994, which states:
Did Ukraine 'attack' Russia before or after Russia annexed the Crimea? It all gets so hazy, but I seem to recall the 1000s of Ukrainian tanks pushing Eastwards supported by waves of Ukrainian bombers and missiles - or perhaps that was just a dream, or maybe a computer game, or something....
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 17, @05:56PM (3 children)
To the contrary, my post demonstrates I do and your post demonstrates that you don't.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @08:37PM (2 children)
Your post reflects your opinion based on propaganda, not the truth, which you just wave off because that's what your TV tells you to do. You do not know what Russia did, you can only opine. Nobody blames you for supporting the home team, we just expect you to accept that you do so blindly, no matter what lies you are being told, just like with Afghanistan/Iraq
(Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Friday March 17, @10:09PM (1 child)
I don't watch TV. Maybe you shouldn't either.
There's two things to note here. First, you can't be bothered to support that argument even slightly. It's just asserting that something is "propaganda" over and over. That's not truth. Second, you allege it's not "truth". Then what is? There is this peculiar vacuum in your argument where you refuse to present what the truth supposedly is.
Looks to me like I can evaluate propaganda and truth better than you can. You can't even be bothered to acknowledge basic facts - like where the Ukrainian war is or that it's still going on. Those two things demonstrate that Russia started it and that the war isn't going Russia's way.
My take is that this is just a headless chicken dance. You don't have anything to say nor understanding of what is going on, but you make a lot of noise saying it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 22, @09:58PM
Says the user that refuses to admit MAGAts did an insurrection to throw out democracy in the USA. Such actions remove you from any objective claims on truth.
Hard to pick. On one hand we have your blatant lie that you can evaluate propaganda, on the other we have russian shillokrak doing the typical "no u" approach.
Right! False dilemma, I choose D, none of the propagandists so let's raise taxes on the wealthy and implement universal healthcare and education!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 16, @11:41PM (22 children)
First you must ignore the nazi swastikas all over the Ukrainian military uniforms and vehicles, and pretend somehow that fascists aren't nazis, and then squint and pretend that everything everybody has heard for the last year isn't true, and maybe then somebody could make some sense of that.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 17, @04:29AM (21 children)
It's easy to ignore what's not there. Nazi swastikas aren't all over said gear. Sure there were some hard right factions in the military, but there are similar factions in Russia: Putin heads one such, for example. The ideology for that latter one is called "Putinism" in English-speaking areas. Neither uses swatikas.
And if we look at real world actions rather than imaginary ideology, Russia has the usual nazi approach here with a half-assed propaganda for war, immediately assaulting conquered peoples (forced emigration, executions, etc), and that freaky Putinism ideology. Notice that Zelenskyy doesn't bother with ideological arguments at all while Putin can't stop babbling about those scary Ukrainian nazis or the peculiar process of "denazification" that is supposedly needed.
But let's suppose hypothetical you were right and nazi swastikas are all over the place. So what? Presence of nazis isn't automatically bad. US has had them for almost a century and it hasn't been a big deal that entire time. Similarly, it's just not that big a deal that they're there in either Ukraine or Russia. Nor is it Russia's business if there were nazis in Ukraine.
This is the ignorance you bring here. The rest of the world doesn't care about the "but nazis!" argument used in Russia. Russia's invasion is still wrong even if Ukrainians were 100% pure nazis, rather than merely a small percentage of nazis.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @05:41AM (20 children)
It sounds like nazis are somehow better than commies. Put it to a vote, along with "marxists" and "none of the above."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @04:48PM (3 children)
It is so strange seeing fascists try to make themselves out as the good guys. You bigots make the world a worse place to live.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Friday March 17, @05:59PM (2 children)
I guess you haven't paid attention to the past century of fascists? They always did that. What I find interesting here is the fascists complaining about other fascists because they're the wrong flavor of fascist.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18, @07:56PM (1 child)
Says the shill that can't even admit conservatives attempted a coup over the 2020 election /rollseyes
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18, @10:22PM
That's just a 50¢ copy&paste job, right? Even a chat-bot would kick it out as repetitive.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @07:34PM (15 children)
We can see from this thread that "None of the above" is not an option.
- Trump Calls for ‘Peace Without Delay’ in Ukraine, Ending the ‘Entire Globalist Neo-Con Establishment’ [breitbart.com]
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Saturday March 18, @02:37AM (14 children)
So, Trump is Neville Chamberlain: Peace in our time!
"We need PEACE without delay! Even if it means giving Russia parts of Ukraine that they haven't even occupied yet! PEACE in our time! I'll even roll up my sleeves, expose my tiny hands, and negotiate the PEACE myself! I'll give Russia all they've occupied, plus all they want and PEACE in our time! I AM the best negotiator ever! I'll give Russia all of Ukraine, and all the dip-shit little countries around there, AND Finland and Sweden AND Germany... I'll make Europe Great Again!(TM)
Give Putin all that and SURE, there'll be PEACE in our time!
I am the GREATEST man EVER!"
Gods, even Chamberlain eventually wised up: can't see Trump doing even that!
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18, @03:20AM (13 children)
Yeah, it's just a dirty little war, but we're stuck, since it's the only good one we got... for now.
War is good business! Never negotiate with peacenicks!
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 18, @05:25AM (12 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18, @05:55AM (11 children)
Oh, Zelenskyyy and Friends aren't doing so badly, either.
Like the people still stuck in Ukraine, we, our economy, and our savings, are just collateral damage.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 18, @01:06PM (10 children)
They didn't invade Ukraine though. We keep having that reality thing intrude into this fine narrative.
But you can't think about who is the cause. Interesting.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18, @06:14PM (5 children)
Does every post have to be Russia! Russia! Russia! ? You're shilling for the FBI, right?
We get it. We got it last Wednesday. The cows get it. Even the Russian cows.
Russia started it, we know that! Anyone who watches The Food Network knows that. Russia==bad, m'kay?
Zelenskyyy and Friends, however, are not as pure as the yellow snow. Nobody who's promoting this blatantly stupid war has clean hands.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18, @07:58PM (3 children)
Both siding a Russuan invasion with a lot of exasperation that people blame Russia for the things they do?
Peak conservative.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18, @10:14PM (2 children)
No matter how hard you wokies repeat that theme, it'll be hard to find anyone who lived through "We will bury you!" to have anything but contempt for that Russia.
Nobody is saying it's bad to blame the Russians for what they do, threat, promise, fantisize. Post-WWII life has been peppered with cold war, duck&cover, no-good-nicks, images of children picking daisies while "the big one" cloud rises behind them.
People who have lived longer and harder than you wokies, have insight you will never find from your clickable-memes. Put down your phone and look for somebody to ask, somebody who's been oh-so-horribly forced to do something with their lives besides complain.
Putin's 'martyr complex' is so out of control there is a real risk he will make 'the most fateful decision of the century' and unleash nuclear weapons, think-tank warns [dailymail.co.uk]
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 19, @03:25AM (1 child)
And yet, here you are. This is just a standard whataboutism runaround. Sure we could talk about the evil acts of Russia which has killed quarter of a million people so far or we could waste our time whining about US profiteers which haven't.
Instead, we're getting this silly blame deflection game instead. You couldn't justify the above, but you can justify derailing serious discussion with imaginary war profiteers.
Except of course, when they don't. You're not the first old asshat I've run into.
He better make sure [soylentnews.org] his nukes work first!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 19, @04:20AM
Did you have a point to go with all that harrumphing?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18, @10:29PM
The point being missed is that khallow says that because Zelenskyyy and Friends were the original wronged party, they deserve to keep their warbucks.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18, @09:20PM (3 children)
Yes they did. He was shelling the east. This was a civil war provoked by the US/NATO coup before it became a proxy war when Russia got into it
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 19, @03:53AM (2 children)
Russia shelled eastern Ukraine as well. Not seeing the alleged pretext here.
Russia didn't need to get into it. They could have stayed out and there probably wouldn't have been a civil war in the first place. You ignore Russia's role in setting up and backing the rebels in the first place which predates the actual civil war.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 19, @04:02AM (1 child)
Again you prove that you know nothing but what your government press releases (propaganda) tell you.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 19, @04:32AM
And of course, you provide zero details for your claims. I consider that an acknowledgment of defeat.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 16, @04:12AM (5 children)
We're pretty sure it's the Russians because that's who ended up in Ukraine rather than the other way around. And this is far from Russia's first tumble with a neighbor.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 16, @05:54AM (4 children)
there ya go, says it all...
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday March 16, @01:37PM (3 children)
Right.
Ukraine tries to invade its' much bigger neighbour Russia and it backfires on them.
So then, they con NATO and others into helping them defend their borders.
I'm sure that's what happened.
Right.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Thursday March 16, @03:44PM
Yep, as a country with zero nukes it makes perfect sense to try to invade your neighbor who has a shit ton of nukes!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 16, @07:35PM (1 child)
Ukraine is at war with itself, most Ukrainians being killed by Ukrainians. Russia doesn't like that shit on their borders. The double standards flying around here are deep.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @12:56AM
Seems like the rightwing nutter bots are back to gish galluping through the different wackadoodle dandy theories to see what gets the slightest traction. No continuity, nothing that ever makes sense, just baseless claims to see what excuse might sway public opinion enough.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @10:24PM
Remember the Meme!
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @01:06PM (1 child)
Must be why we have more guns per capita than anyone else.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18, @06:28PM
You're in Switzerland? I like your cheese.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday March 15, @04:27PM (5 children)
Proxy wars that you fully support whenever the President is a Republican.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @06:58PM (2 children)
Support? Hell, Runaway was a willing trooper (or, Supply Clerk) in Raygun's expeditionary force that invaded Lebanon.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday March 16, @01:52AM (1 child)
That is very specific. How do you know it in so much detail?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 16, @04:38AM
I don't see support for Reagan here, but maybe that part is completely made up.
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday March 15, @08:46PM (1 child)
Oh? Which war would that be? The Gulf wars against Iraq? Sorry, Bubba, but I have never voiced any support for the invasion of Iraq. Now, lemme think. What other wars have Republicans started? We got GWB and his infantile bullshit out of the way, what other wars were there?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @10:35PM
Afghanistan.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @10:45PM (35 children)
We should send BLM/Antifa to Ukraine. They're better funded, better equipped, more experienced, immune to legal investigations, not constrained by the Geneva Convention, and they surely know how to empty pockets. General Hanoi Jane is out there sabre-rattling... put her in charge.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15, @11:02PM (22 children)
And we should send Trump/Runaway/MTG/Boebert/Carlson/MAGA to Russia.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 16, @02:29AM (21 children)
Half-million Trump supporters on Jan6, and all you got was a broken window, dog crap on the lawn, and Nancy had to have her gavel disinfected because some guy dressed like a festive Viking fondled it. Hanoi Jane could whup his horny little ass.
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Thursday March 16, @03:47PM (11 children)
A few broken windows....and five dead people. [nytimes.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 16, @04:11PM (5 children)
You must be, like, the only one left who hasn't gotten the news lately. Well, I don't want to be the one to burst your bubble. Dream on.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday March 17, @12:33PM (4 children)
I didn't get the news either: what did i miss?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @09:44PM (3 children)
The J6 videos. Kinda let the air out of that whole "insurrection" theme.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Saturday March 18, @02:41AM (2 children)
Ah! You watch Faux news, i see. All the news that is fit to show, especially once it's edited to show what Faux wants to show you.
Faux news, where all of the staff think Trump is just a big dink while pushing that he is the greatest man ever.
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(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18, @03:08AM (1 child)
Okay, you win, the "insurrection" was 100% really-really-real! Help! Help! We've been overthrown by a half-million patriotic old people shuffling along in red baseball caps! Come see the violence inherent in the slogan!
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday March 21, @09:33PM
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 17, @05:55PM (4 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @09:47PM (2 children)
Maybe it's your preaching style.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 17, @10:11PM (1 child)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @10:22PM
Perhaps if they had been as children, they might have grown amenable to developing a more satisfactual preaching style.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 23, @10:28AM
Perhaps it is because khallow is a Republican, and can't learn. He has been obviously rebutted right here in River City mega numbers of times, and yet he has not become one iota more intelligent. Constant repetition of the same ideological inaccuracies. And just very recently, he as a journal on more of the same. No one cares about your take on things, khallow. Your bad faith has made you irrelevant.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 16, @04:23PM (7 children)
There was no dog crap on the lawn. They didn't let Trump go down there.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 16, @05:37PM (6 children)
Trump doesn't have a dog.
Maybe you're thinking of "Major," which was Joe's dog. That is, until Major outsmarted Joe too many times and the Secret Service had to have him taken away... Major, that is, not Joe.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @12:58AM (5 children)
They were calling Trump a dog. Not sure how you could miss that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @02:49AM (2 children)
You're part of the left-wing A-Team, right? The mop-em-up crew? I mean, you're as good as they have, right? Like, three posts late and 50¢ short... not a zinger in a bushel. It's no wonder nobody cares about CNNYT.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday March 17, @12:35PM (1 child)
Huh?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @09:41PM
Never 'splain 'em. It's somebody's third law (won't 'splain that one, neither).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @10:13PM (1 child)
Trump craps bigger than you guys.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Saturday March 18, @02:43AM
Trump IS crap bigger than them guys.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28, @07:24PM
HOW THE CAPITOL POLICE IGNITED A RIOT: The Moment the J6 Crowd ERUPTED – When Police Threw an Elderly Woman 10 Feet Down the Stairs – THREE TIMES – VIDEO with Commentary by J6 Prisoner Jeffrey McKellop [thegatewaypundit.com]
FBI Informant Jen Loh Infiltrated Proud Boys Defense During Trial – Prayed with Protesters and Their Families – Now She Speaks Out to CNN After She Was Outed [thegatewaypundit.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 16, @04:33PM (11 children)
But then we would have Marxists fighting against Marxists. That just don't seem kosher.
That's right, they're on the same side, so it's the disparate Marxists fighting together against the disparate Communists, who are all fighting together to liberate
SingaporeUkraine. That's okay, until the winds change, and they all go grabbing for the same piles of "liberty bucks" at the same time. It should all be fine, until we run out of liberty cabbage.(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 16, @05:12PM (10 children)
The US would sooner see TSMC fabs burn than let China have them [theregister.com]
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 17, @04:32AM (9 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @05:02AM (8 children)
Yeah, the problem is that we've been cornered so that it's nearly impossible to avoid aiding an enemy that has corrupted news, media, education, business, infrastructure, government. The ethical thing would be a scorched earth policy on manufacturing in China. Stretch their damn wall a thousand feet higher.
Buying an Apple iPhone because it is slightly less evil than Android, is clearly not enough. Give me a phone assembled in Ohio, with components made in Arizona and Texas.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 17, @05:13AM (7 children)
That's not a real problem. You could just choose not to be cornered. There is no justification much less need for scorched earth strategy on China.
My take here is that it's a rational and feasible strategy to deny the spoils of unjust war to those who start such. If China doesn't start such wars, then the strategy never needs to be carried out.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @05:23AM (6 children)
It's a real problem because China has greased every palm and sabotaged our sovereignty. Add up the costs so far... China has been at war with us for years. Trump naively believes he'll eliminate the deep state? He should live so long.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 17, @05:27AM (5 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @05:34AM (4 children)
Trump didn't realize the deep state existed, seven years ago... before it went after him, even while he used the vague "drain the swamp" rhetoric. Now, he's speaking out loudly against it as one of the promises for his "second term."
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 17, @06:00AM (3 children)
Speaking is very different from doing. He had plenty of opportunity to do.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @10:00PM (2 children)
Trump spent his limited time as wisely as possible, considering the incessant media/deep-state war against MAGA. After all, Russia/Ukraine happened only after Joe was Medevac'd into office. Recall Bruisma? Recall how Joe slipped Ukraine a cool billion of our national debt to get that top Ukrainian judicial "son-of-a-bitch" fired?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 17, @10:20PM (1 child)
Sorry, you've been played. It's obvious that Trump just wasn't interested in the first place. The deep state isn't some weird mystery that takes four years to figure out.
And he's only saying (not doing!) the deep state thing because that's your Pavlov bell right now. My bet is that he'll say what he needs to say to get elected, and then he'll go back to whatever he did the first term. There's something to be said for a candidate willing to touch actual voter issues. But Trump hasn't a thing to improve those issues. Immigration is just as big a mess now as then, and he didn't do a thing about the deep state. And he certainly hasn't done a thing to fix my issues - such as out of control government spending.
Which is one of the reasons I view the Biden administration negatively.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17, @10:34PM
Asking after answers?
Seems that almost nobody noticed when khallow was replaced by a chat-bot. Look at those instantaneous posts, triggered by keywords. I noticed it sometime back, when he and another like him were trading 250-word posts, thirty or forty levels deep, rewording and dancing back and forth on a couple of keywords. I'm sure he must have been real, at one time.
Dial the hostility subroutine back a bit, okay?