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A Manhattan grand jury has voted to indict Donald Trump on charges involving payments made during the 2016 presidential campaign to silence claims of an extramarital sexual encounter, the first ever criminal case against a former U.S. president and a jolt to Trump’s bid to retake the White House in 2024.
Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump
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I think that I shall never see
A billboard lovely as a tree.
Indeed, unless the billboards fall
I'll never see a tree at all.
-- Ogden Nash
(Score: 5, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Thursday March 30, @10:23PM (50 children)
He finally won a popular vote!
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30, @10:45PM (48 children)
Don't we already have pictures of Joe in handcuffs? Or is that Hunter, with whips and chains. Yeah, I guess that's right, Joe is the one showering with little girls.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Tork on Thursday March 30, @10:48PM (35 children)
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30, @11:02PM (34 children)
You mean after looking at the poll numbers? Nah, it's all good.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday March 30, @11:05PM (12 children)
You mean these results?
Fox Displays Poll Showing 61% of People Don't Want Donald Trump Back [newsweek.com]
If so, I agree!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30, @11:07PM (11 children)
Nah, just the real ones, the ones people pay any attention to.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @12:34AM (9 children)
Oh, yes, please do tell us more! Which "real" poll numbers are you referring to? Links, or it didn't happen!
(Score: 2) by Tork on Friday March 31, @01:33AM (6 children)
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @02:44AM (4 children)
It was your DeathMonkey's poll. And it wasn't a poll about Biden. And runaway had nothing to do with any of it. Other than those little nitpicks, nice job!
(Score: 2) by Tork on Friday March 31, @03:03AM (3 children)
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @03:16AM
Yes, I'm the one who brought up polling in this thread. But about Trump, not Joe.
Either you're fixated on runaway's other threads, or on Joe's blue Depends. Or both, that's okay, too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @04:32AM (1 child)
Did you mean this poll about both of them?
(Score: 2) by Tork on Friday March 31, @04:48AM
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday March 31, @04:54PM
The post was anonymous. So we don't really know who is fixated on who's pole.
How often should I have my memory checked? I used to know but...
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @02:38AM
Don't know about you, but election results always work for me. And so far, for the last 55 years at least, the numbers have been very (extremely) stable, and still are, despite all your "trump" craziness
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @02:41AM
If you followed that poll link, it wasn't a FOX poll, and FOX was not endorsing it; FOX was quoting another poll. Probably quoting it purely for the comedy value.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @02:08AM
Oh you mean these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election#Electoral_results [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30, @11:06PM (20 children)
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30, @11:17PM (19 children)
Not even close. Besides, I don't think he is a democrat, so he probably has something else to be doing on weekdays.
Funny stuff! I was locked-out from posting, even before the -1 points have started to hit me. They've gotta be coming soon. (Dynamic IPs are a good thing.)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30, @11:28PM (2 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30, @11:31PM (1 child)
Nah, he shoots from the hip. I'm a bluffer.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @01:23AM
He's a fluffer. Different job.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @02:44AM (15 children)
Don't know about him, but Trump is the democrat, he's there to scare people from voting for independents
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @03:08AM (14 children)
Yes, Trump was a democrat. He got better.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @03:26AM (5 children)
Still is, he's there to keep the audience focused, but he and Clinton are still joined at the hips. To deny the symbiosis is insane. It's all right there in the numbers
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday March 31, @04:07PM (4 children)
So "lock her up" was always a lie and you dumbasses fell for it.
Yep, sounds about right!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 01, @04:20AM (3 children)
Heh, typical democrat.. always seeing criticism as republican
Of course "lock her up" is a clown show, just like your Russia! Russia! Russia!.. All there for reelection. Can't argue with success, can we?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 02, @11:31PM (2 children)
The Russian shill is all messed up over people pointing out Ronald and the GOP's complicity with a fascist regime trying to take over a soveriegn nation. Po widdle babby boo
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 03, @12:36AM (1 child)
Are we talking about Vietnam or Afghanistan/Iraq?
Your little McCarthyism shtick does not impress.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 04, @01:45PM
Doubt you'll find anyone defending the imperialism of the US, but two wrongs don't make a right. Whataboutism only works when the other party is irrationally attached to something like their country or leader. Sad putin fluffer is sad.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by cmdrklarg on Friday March 31, @06:45PM (3 children)
tRump was never a Democrat.
He's also never been a Republican either.
tRump is tRump. He is an opportunistic asshole who will "align" himself with whatever group can get him the most advantage. He said he was a Democrat not that long ago, but Democrats can see through his bullshit too easily. Much better to align with a group that tends to be more gullible and tribal.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 01, @04:25AM (2 children)
He's a democrat who plays a republican on TV.. To do what? to scare people out of voting for independents. You too, are in obvious denial of the symbiosis that gives them 98% of the vote, and take their clownish bickering as real opposition
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Monday April 03, @08:58PM (1 child)
You did not read my post. tRump is NEITHER. He simply aligns with the GOP because they are more easily swayed and controlled.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 04, @03:25AM
#1299231:
#1299593:
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 02, @08:06AM (3 children)
So that is what the Repubs are calling the transition from early onset to fly-blow Old-Timer's Disease? Now get off my lawn, and keep yer Government hands off my Medicare! Damn Whippersnappers! Country's really gone to hell.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 03, @04:38AM (2 children)
Joe Biden Moves to Cut Medicare Advantage [breitbart.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 03, @08:02AM
Medicare Advantage is not Medicare, it is private supplementary insurance that lies to and cheats elderly people in their declining years. A lot like Brietbart, in that regard.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 04, @04:50AM
They aren't even cutting Medicare Advantage. There goes Breitbart lying about numbers people won't understand again.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30, @10:48PM (3 children)
Sick conservative projection. Forgetting it was Trump in the pee-pee tapes? Runaway been frequenting the Golden Showers gent's club, again?
Lock him up!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30, @10:54PM (2 children)
The dem fav Jeffrey Epstein was real (ask Hillary). Russia-Russia-Russia was proven pathetic, years ago.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday March 30, @10:55PM (1 child)
Oh you mean this guy?
Fox News apologises for cropping Trump out of Epstein and Maxwell photo [theguardian.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30, @10:57PM
How about photos from Lolita Island? Got Trump?
(Score: 4, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Thursday March 30, @11:00PM (5 children)
“We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest, But come on. There isn’t really an upside to Trump.” - Tucker Carlson
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30, @11:05PM
Just like there isn't an upside being stopped by a vengeful, rogue cop.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 31, @01:25PM (3 children)
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Friday March 31, @03:56PM (2 children)
We do call it lying.
You're the ones trying to invent new words for it.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 31, @05:09PM (1 child)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @05:39PM
People that read dictionaries and believe their eyes and ears. Sorry you lie too much?
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @01:10AM (1 child)
Republicans want to see Hunter's but they don't want to see David's.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday March 31, @04:59PM
Ain't the thing they want to see spelt with two T's?
How often should I have my memory checked? I used to know but...
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @12:15AM
Lock! Him! Up!
Lock! Him! Up!
Lock! Him! Up!
Lock! Him! Up!
Lock! Him! Up!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30, @10:50PM (7 children)
Anybody else thinking about ham sandwiches, right now?
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30, @11:47PM (4 children)
When the Bidenistas finally get theirs, the left will be calling it "indicting an ice cream sandwich."
(Score: 5, Touché) by Tork on Thursday March 30, @11:59PM (3 children)
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @12:07AM (1 child)
Oh, the more we talk about Trump, the more we learn. About the people making those posts.
Did you know he lost a mighty huge fortune during his first term in office?
Did you know he likes having sex with pretty women?
Did you know he called Stormy Daniels Horse Face?
Did you know Trump drinks twenty cans of Diet Coke a day?
Did you know Trump wouldn't even care to try to ride a bicycle?
Did you know that by his own accounting, Trump is a stable genius?
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 02, @06:04AM
There is something weird and furry going on here. How do we know that horse face wasn't meant as a compliment?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 02, @08:14AM
"Let's Go, Dark Brandon." Whips on the aviator shades.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @02:18AM (1 child)
This is worse than a ham sandwich. Manhattan repeatedly passed on even trying to get an indictment despite the ease in getting one. The reason for that is obvious because they are firmly caught up in the height of the establishment via Wall Street. A change like this came directly from the Republican establishment trying everything they can to take out Trump and the earlier the better. They can read the polls for the primary battle and it doesn't look good for them against the modern day Teflon Don because he doesn't care for the rules.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 04, @01:51PM
Definitely conspiracy territory, but wouldn't put it past them! Election year, bring out yer dirt!
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 30, @11:02PM (40 children)
This is a huge warning sign that this trial will not be easy.
So we have repeated prosecutors passing over this. And notice the highlighted part with respect to ex-lawyer Michael Cohen. Once again, the guilty plea gimmick rears its ugly head. Cohen pleads guilty to this campaign finance charge and some "unrelated tax evasion counts" and avoids more serious jail time for the latter!
Lastly, the nearest comparison case appears to be that of former North Carolina Senator John Edwards who had two campaign donors pay off his ex-mistress for almost a million dollars. Even then, Edwards got off [npr.org] with one not guilty and hung jury on the rest.
We'll see what charges they have and what evidence they rely on. But looks to me like this is one of two long shot trials based on election shenanigans. Of the three government trials I know about, here's my present take on the ranking of difficulty: mishandling of classified documents, this trial, and the Georgia election tampering. There's also other trials [businessinsider.com], particularly a civil rape/defamation trial underway.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30, @11:10PM (13 children)
Ah, good times. Remember when CNN was suggesting Michael Cohen for president?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 30, @11:44PM (9 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30, @11:58PM (4 children)
Yeah, CNN is following the Fox route to news and becoming even further right wing. The ollyfarts don't want to lose power so they corrupt whatever necessary. Not that CNN was ever that great, strange that you seem to defend Fox while condemning CNN, rational centrist you are not!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @12:10AM (2 children)
FOX ratings counts are constantly rising. CNN's ratings are uncountable.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 31, @02:46AM (1 child)
So why did they feel the need to lie about the 2020 elections, commiting wholesale slander against Dominion Voting systems and various election officials in order to protect market share? Not winning enough?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @05:55PM
That's why their ratings are rising! Stupid people love drama.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 31, @01:33AM
I've never defended Fox. "Seem" is the key word here. Perceive it differently and I no longer "seem".
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @12:28AM (3 children)
I can't help but notice that you seem rather easily triggered when the news is about investigations involving women as crime victims. Why is that? Just curious.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 31, @01:33AM (2 children)
I doubt you have noticed such.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 03, @12:53AM (1 child)
Are you seriously suggesting that khallow is the New Glenn Beck? [knowyourmeme.com]
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday April 05, @10:03AM
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @12:30AM (2 children)
Actually, no, I don't. Care to share?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @12:40AM (1 child)
Somebody fingered the wrong Michael:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/04/politics/michael-avenatti-trump-2020-presidential-run/index.html [cnn.com]
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/09/14/michael-avenatti-2020-democratic-primary-219910/ [politico.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @02:54AM
I was wrong. Same cloak, different fallen angel.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @01:00AM (2 children)
You seem to have conveniently glossed over this (quoting your quote again):
The reason that the DoJ declined to prosecute was because, as per policy, it is likely unconstitutional to prosecute a sitting President. Ostensibly, it's not because they thought the case was weak. Also note that Trump is no longer President. As an ordinary citizen he is subject to prosecution just like anyone else. Or are you suggesting that Presidents should get lifetime immunity from prosecution?
I'm not sure what your point is here. Care to elaborate further? What do Michael Cohen's guilty pleas have to do with Trump?
So, because some other politician managed to beat the rap, Trump should get a pass too? Is that really what you are suggesting? Truly, you are the perfect Republican stooge, khallow!
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by khallow on Friday March 31, @02:33AM (1 child)
Meanwhile the New York City/Manhattan DA's office has apparently passed over this multiple times. They have no such alleged policy. As to your last question about giving Trump lifetime immunity, are you suggesting that either? Because otherwise I have yet to run across anyone making such a suggestion.
It's a classic and often crooked law enforcement maneuver which I have discussed multiple times in the last few years. For example:
Point is that guilty pleas in the US are poisonous. It's way too easy to bully innocent into pleading guilty or for the guilty to plead to exotic charges to avoid punishment for more mundane ones.
As an aside, I actually found an example of a plea deal that likely wasn't crooked [soylentnews.org]. Runaway wrote in that journal:
[...]
Imagine if most crooks could normally just plead "we acknowledge no wrongdoing", pay the fines, and move on. There would be a lot less guilty pleas for starters. Actual guilty pleas would be for the most heinous crimes with strong evidence that they couldn't get out of. It would mean something. Though the the "we acknowledge no..." pleas would not.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Zinho on Friday March 31, @12:23PM
Isn't that called a "no contest" plea? [duckduckgo.com]
"Space Exploration is not endless circles in low earth orbit." -Buzz Aldrin
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @01:26AM (13 children)
I love the smell of khallow pontificating about the law in the morning. It smells like, like idiocy.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 31, @02:35AM (11 children)
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @03:37AM
Oh do tell!
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @06:47AM (9 children)
I wonder why that is. What is your take on it?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 31, @10:52AM (8 children)
That some people need to perceive differently. I can't fix them from way over here.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @03:05PM (7 children)
In typical fashion khallow uses the opposite meaning of words and wonders why people get confused about what is being said.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 31, @03:22PM (6 children)
I've never defended Fox. This is completely fabricated.
Same.
Note that no actual idiocy was ever described. No details == no story.
Completely misses the point (that if past trials are rare and have poor prosecution outcomes, then new trials are likely to run into the same trouble), but eagerly jumps to the "perfect Republican stooge" narrative.
My view is that in each of these cases, the poster could have simply chosen to view my post in a reasonable light without the pretentious, sneering drama. As the saying going, "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Here, we have the converse. If these posters stop believing in straw men caricatures of me, then their objections go away: I cease to "defend" Fox News, I cease to "trigger" on hypothetical female victims, I cease to be an idiot, and I cease to be a Republican stooge. It's surprisingly simple and completely out of my hands. Physicians, go fix thyselves.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 02, @11:36PM (1 child)
If you did not busy yourself defending and downolaying the GOP's crime spree with the trump administration you would have a lot less sneering. Since you still have a problem acknowledging the GOP's insurrection we do not hold out much hope for you. Sad that any decent points you might bring up on occasion will be buried under your hubris!
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday April 04, @02:28AM
Again, if you chose to interpret my actions differently, then the drama disappears. There's no point to caring about broken perceptions!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 03, @01:19PM (1 child)
Looks like somebody can't get laid!
You're holding it wrong, khallow! The correct way to accomplish counterrevolution against second wave feminism and the notion that women are people is chivalry and pedestalization, which you are failing to uphold. You're an incel, and a homosexual man who originates fascism by dint of perverse sexual orientation, so we should throw you into the army. That'll straighten you up and teach you respect for women.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday April 04, @02:29AM
Again, if you chose to interpret my actions differently, then the drama disappears. There's no point to caring about broken perceptions!
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 03, @10:53PM (1 child)
Your "view" is myopic and ego-centric, khallow! You cannot see that no one is able to view your posts in a reasonable light, because they are not reasonable. The drama is real, not pretentious, and the sneers are well deserved. If you want people to take you seriously, you need to grow up, dump the racist libertarianism (AKA, Republic party policy), and start arguing in good faith. Until that happens, you will reap what you sew.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday April 04, @02:32AM
Again, if you chose to interpret my actions differently, then the drama disappears. There's no point to caring about broken perceptions!
Three dumbass straw men that were an utter waste of my time. Too bad that you don't have anything better to do with your life.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @02:58AM
You've been smelling too much teen spirit.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @03:48AM (8 children)
Four Times the Left Witch-Hunted Trump: ‘Never Been Anything Like It’ [breitbart.com]
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Tork on Saturday April 01, @01:05AM (7 children)
2. Acquitted because his party was in power.
3. We're seeing the results of that 'perfect phone call' today.
4. What Mueller said and what Barr said are in conflict.
You should do a search for McConnell's statements about Trump's culpability on Jan 6th. ;)
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 03, @07:01AM (6 children)
You should do a search for Jan 6th videos. That sad, “QAnon Shaman” guy is now recovering in a halfway house, after spending 800-days as a political prisoner.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 03, @04:54PM (5 children)
Jeebus, yall be fucking dumb.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 03, @06:06PM (4 children)
Scientists Discover Strong Correlation Between Trusting Government And Eating Paint Chips [babylonbee.com]
(Score: 2) by Tork on Monday April 03, @10:06PM (2 children)
Heh. I wonder how many people who guffawed over this while slapping their knee still have weathered Trump signs in their yard.
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 04, @12:43AM (1 child)
I wonder how many people who guffawed over this while slapping their knee actually noticed that this so-called "news" story is from Babylon Bee.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday April 04, @12:50AM
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 04, @01:49PM
Conservative satire is just mean spirited hate packaged as humor. The Onion does it right mostly, actually playing off absurdity and not naked hatred.