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The National Conservatives had a rally in London this week. I wanted to write something, but the Guardian summary will suffice.
It's barely disguised now.
From the fine article:
Perhaps the speech most reported on was by the Tory backbencher Miriam Cates, who part-channelled Viktor Orbán and Giorgia Meloni in describing low birthrates as an existential crisis for the west. The populist leaders of Hungary and Italy are explicit in wanting more domestic-born children as against immigrants, a point Cates did not make, although it was arguably implicit. More striking still was her argument that the lack of babies was down to “cultural Marxism that is systematically destroying our children’s souls”.
This was also the conference where Jacob Rees-Mogg (a member of the current UK government) spoke and admitted that recent changes to electoral law in England and Wales were an attempt at gerrymandering, to disenfranchise people who might vote for parties other than his, but that it had backfired. The Conservatives appear to have disenfranchised many of their own voters.
It's in plain sight now. These are National Conservatives, the NatCs.
There is not much more to be said.
Update: Judging by the discourse below, there certainly is more to be said. Once again I will not say it myself. Instead I'll post a link to SNP MP Mhairi Black's f-word speech given to Parliament last year.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 18, @10:45AM (45 children)
Britain for Brits, Scotland for Scots, Germany for Germans, China for Chinese, etc ad nauseum. Progressives mock the 'Great Replacement' conspiracy theory, then they publish shit suggesting that maybe the Euros need replacing. In effect, "There are too many white poeple in the world, we need to import people who aren't white. If we can't replace white people, we at least need to outnumber them, even in their own homes!"
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, @03:29PM
Get fucked racist dirtbag.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, @05:40PM (3 children)
So America for Native Americans? Go back to Europe white boi!
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday May 18, @09:07PM
They lost all of those wars. At least I certainly can't recall one where they won. Battles sure, but not wars.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: -1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 18, @09:31PM (1 child)
Fine with me. And, you've obviously forgotten that some of my four bears were Native Americans. My wife is enough Native American, she could join the tribe. Also, my stepsons, and my sons. I'm kinda adopted along with them, whether I have enough native blood of my own, or not. Yeah, go ahead, take your pink ass back to Europe.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 22, @04:02PM
For your sake, and the legacy of your four bears, I do hope the tribe does not get your Soylent News post history.
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, @06:19PM
Hot take from the resident white supremacist. What next, a program to purify the citizenry?
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, @06:26PM (1 child)
You do realize you're arguing for replacing white US-ians with brown and red people when you take a nativist stance, right?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, @06:39PM
That's asking a bit much of the dude.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Tork on Thursday May 18, @08:35PM (30 children)
So... does it scare you that the non-white dude that you imagine is coming to replace you will have super easy access to all sorts of weaponry?
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 18, @09:12PM (27 children)
This may blow your mind, but non-white dudes with weapons are generally more respectful of everyone around them, than are the unarmed motormouths constantly calling me a nazi/fascist/hitleryouth/whitesupremacist/etc ad nauseum. It kinda goes with the territory, but most of you wouldn't understand that.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 4, Funny) by Tork on Thursday May 18, @09:17PM (25 children)
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 18, @09:28PM (24 children)
Are you a member of Redneck Revolt? https://indyweek.com/news/hate-racists-love-assault-rifles-meet-redneck-revolt/ [indyweek.com] https://www.counterextremism.com/supremacy/redneck-revolt [counterextremism.com]
Yes, I do like the idea of the persecutors being armed. It's much easier to mount a legal defense, when forced to defend myself against them. Arm them to the teeth, load them for bear, and be sure that they wear some identifiable insignia. But, as I've already pointed out, don't be surprised that with time and experience, those 'rednecks' carrying weapons mellow out, and stop inciting shit.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Tork on Thursday May 18, @09:50PM (20 children)
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 18, @11:01PM (7 children)
We have a name for people who point guns at other people: criminal idiots. Children grow up learning the litany, "No gun is EVER unloaded, NEVER point a gun at anything you don't intend to shoot, NEVER touch the trigger until you intend to shoot".
Identifiable insignia for Redneck Revolt seems to consist of a red bandanna and more general ANTIFA slogans and crap. It's always good to know who the enemy is.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Funny) by Tork on Thursday May 18, @11:43PM (6 children)
So... in a single post you're proposing general gun-safety and professing that political opponents of yours wear targets so you can easily shoot them. You accidentally made my next point for me. Heh I've got all this spare time, now.
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @02:40AM (2 children)
In 1967, Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take a human life. He replied, "I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed Communists".
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @03:08PM (1 child)
Funaway modding up his own adhom shit posts may be the saddest part of Soylent News. Gotta love punchlines dehumanizing political opponents directly tied with murder, not even implied.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @07:32PM
You don't get it. [kym-cdn.com]
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Friday May 19, @01:41PM (2 children)
OK, cool. Don't wear a uniform of any kind. Skulk around like a spy. There are worse fates than being shot reserved for spies.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @07:09PM
You first comrade!
^ by the law of rightwing projection
(Score: 3, Touché) by Tork on Friday May 19, @08:27PM
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 18, @11:05PM (11 children)
Oh, imagine this scenario. You walk into a room, to find Jesus Christ, Mohammed, Hare Krishna, Zeus, Thor, and that little fat guy sitting around a table. Collectively, they tell you that the gun on the table is unloaded, and that you should put it in your pocket. So, you pick it up, put it in your pocket, and turn to face the assembly. And, you are told, "You fail, asshole, go to hell!" You mumble, "Huh, what?" And you're told, "You didn't clear the weapon before pocketing it!"
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20, @12:32PM (10 children)
You can't trust god these days? Who can you trust?
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Saturday May 20, @07:38PM (9 children)
Sorry if that whooshed you. TRUST NO ONE!! Don't even trust yourself. Double check that weapon from time to time, and make sure you didn't absent mindedly load it up, or, that your spouse didn't load it for you, or the fekkin' leper khans are messing with you. Then remember, even after you've cleared the weapon for the third time in a row, THERE ARE NO EMPTY WEAPONS!!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Tork on Sunday May 21, @07:57PM (8 children)
... and you want these peeps to have guns the cops fear.
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Sunday May 21, @09:16PM (7 children)
Well, yes, as a matter of fact, I do. Of course, there's a glaring problem with you statement. Guns the cops fear? Most of that is bullshit. Real cops don't shy away when a bad guy shows a weapon, unlike the cunts at Uvalde. The cop on the beat doesn't look at the weapon the bad guy has, before deciding whether to beat a hasty retreat, or to press ahead with an arrest. The 'much feared' AR-15 is no more, and no less, dangerous than any semi-auto of similar caliber. The propaganda just keeps on coming. (In the same vein, those "cop killer bullets" were teflon coated - and they didn't penetrate body armor any better or any worse than other bullets. Those bullets DO penetrate windshields better than any other bullets, but they don't penetrate armor.)
Back to whether people I like should be armed or not: HELL YES they should be armed. The constitution wasn't written for people I like. It wasn't written for people I don't like. It was written for ALL AMERICANS. That goes right along with, we have a "bill of rights", not a "bill of needs" or "bill of necessities" or whatever the hell people are talking about when they say "you don't really NEED an AR-15".
Now do you see? I don't want to deprive the Redneck Revenge people of the right to bear arms. Why would you want to deprive me of that right?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21, @09:27PM (2 children)
You've repeatedly expressed a desire to shoot a massive number of people. According to you all that's keeping us safe from you is that you haven't encountered a gun-free zone sign, yet.
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 22, @12:17AM (1 child)
You'll need citations that I want to shoot anyone. Take your time, we have lots of time.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 22, @07:26AM
Kay. There’s one in this journal entry. You may use your lots of time to study your comments in this article.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Tork on Sunday May 21, @11:28PM (2 children)
Unfortunately we are talking about real cops. Frankly you should know better, you're proposing an arms race with law enforcement. Just the anti-big-gov't side of you, provided it ever actually existed, should have you pondering this.
Not guilty.
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 22, @12:26AM (1 child)
Arms race? Lemme think a moment. Those cities and states that outlaw "assault weapons" never outlaw them for cops, do they? How about jurisdictions that outlaw body armor? Are cops included? Do cops have access to full auto weapons? Yes they do, virtually any police department can submit paperwork for such a weapon, but civilians cannot. How about grenades? Don't let their non-technical jargon get in the way - a "flash-bang" is a grenade. I don't know if any police departments have fragmentation grenades, maybe, maybe not, but those concussion grenades are more than enough. How 'bout those armored personnel carriers? Cops can have them - do you think the DoD will sell me one? Probably not, but they literally GIVE THEM to police departments.
Cops are all the time demonstrating "new technology". I watched a video, where the cops can wrap a super-duty zip tie thingy around your tires, and bring you to a screeching halt. They have demonstrated the ability to zap a car electronically, to kill the ignition. They are begging for remote-off switches in newer cars. Basically, everything that a hacker can dream of, the cops want it, and oftentimes get it.
Arms race.
This is the United States. The power was supposed to belong to the people.
And, don't forget Mao. Political power grows from the barrel of a gun. Cops have too much power already, and the playing field needs leveling.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 22, @02:13PM
"This is the United States. The power was supposed to belong to the people.
And, don't forget Mao. Political power grows from the barrel of a gun."
Don't forget Hitler or the numerous US racists that helped inspire him! Political power does not flow from a gun either, it flows from people. Guns are often used to convince people, but no one should have such an unhealthy obsession with them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 22, @02:43PM
Ignorant moron, now with guns!
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, @10:53PM (2 children)
You didn't answer his question. He's not asking if you think you should be armed.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @01:09AM (1 child)
Aw, c'mon, a troll mod? I posted this as a sarcastic quip. Have a sense of humor! Please don't throw a troll mod at my other sarcastic reply in this thread, too.
Being serious for a moment, I really despise some of Runaway's political views, like what he's posted in this thread. Other times, he posts some reasonable comments, especially when he's not discussing political issues. I don't despise him personally, not at all. I just wish he'd abandon his screwed up views.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20, @07:39PM
Silly boi, there are no non-political issues.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, @11:33PM
If you don't want to be called a racist, don't post racist crap. This isn't difficult to figure out.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @12:23PM (1 child)
"There are too many white people in the world, we need to import people who aren't white."
Where are you going to import them from? Mars?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20, @07:41PM
Have you looked at Mexico? Argentina? Panama? Lotsa people ain't white. Not even white people are very white, when you really look at them.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by dalek on Thursday May 18, @11:42PM (4 children)
Why would you judge people by their race or the color of their skin? That's stupid. All people are created equal. We should judge people by the quality of their character, not by race or skin color.
It's one thing to say that it's a problem if a country has a shrinking population. That's an issue because it probably has a negative impact on the economy. It's reasonable to not want your country's population to shrink.
But why would you care the proportion of white children in your country compared to other races? Why is that even relevant? There's no reason that you should want white children any more or any less than children of any other race. That's asinine.
Daleks believe they are the supreme race of the universe. Your post is effectively using the same logic as if you said that rejecting the Dalek belief that they are the supreme race of the universe is equivalent to saying that Daleks are an inferior race. That's not a reasonable statement, and it's not logical. A person who believes that all races are created equal would also reject the Dalek belief that they are the supreme race of the universe.
By your logic, rejecting one racist ideology means that you must accept the opposite racist ideology. There's literally no room in your illogical view of the world to not be racist.
Once people become citizens, it's every bit as much their country as it is yours. Absolutely nobody is saying that white people must be outnumbered. They are rejecting the asinine position that it's somehow a problem if white people happened to be outnumbered at some point in the future. The fact that you can't seem to understand this distinction suggests that you are seriously lacking in comprehension skills.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest just whinge about SN.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @01:38PM (3 children)
A: You haven't been paying attention, dalek. Martin Luther King's dream died. Today, the vocal black communities don't want equality, they want something they call "equity", and they'll let us know what is equitable.
B: Now, that shrinking population? The United States has spent ~50 years since Roe v Wade, actively killing off black and white Americans, actively reducing the population, while at the same time, the progressive party has been actively encouraging immigration of mostly brown people from around the world.
Tell me again that the replacement conspiracy theory is only a conspiracy theory. We have fallen below replacement level fertility, and the outsiders are racing to the borders to replace us.
Also, tell me, why you must paint the picture in race terms? If the exact same thing happened in Germany, with the progressive government actively reducing the brunette population with blonde headed people from around the world, would you call that racism?
If an empress were killing off the emperor's heirs, so that her own offspring could inherit the empire, would you call that racism?
You're smarter than the average idiot who parrots the mainstream media propaganda. Not everything in life is racist. Greed is greed, with or without racism being involved. Almost everyone in the world wants what US citizens have, and the lib/dem/progressive party wants to help them take it from us. Race hardly matters.
Oh yeah - two parts to my post. Do ya see how the two tie together? Those lib/dem/progressives proclaim themselves to be the champions of the black folk, right? But, those are the very people helping to suppress the fertility of black folk, so they might import more outsiders to replace the black folk.
Progressives champion no one. They'll use you to their advantage, then throw you out with last week's leftovers that are stinking up the fridge.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @03:11PM
Waah waaah waaaaah people don't like our white supremacy waaaah!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Friday May 19, @03:49PM (1 child)
It's not freedom if they need to ask your permission first.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Saturday May 20, @08:49AM
Indeed [theguardian.com].
The Liberty [libertyhumanrights.org.uk] article.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @05:54AM
Give Ireland back to the Irish
Give Lapland back to the Laps
Give China back to the Chinese
And Yoko back to the Japs...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7dsPmSMmzw [youtube.com]