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The National Conservatives had a rally in London this week. I wanted to write something, but the Guardian summary will suffice.

It's barely disguised now.

From the fine article:

Perhaps the speech most reported on was by the Tory backbencher Miriam Cates, who part-channelled Viktor Orbán and Giorgia Meloni in describing low birthrates as an existential crisis for the west. The populist leaders of Hungary and Italy are explicit in wanting more domestic-born children as against immigrants, a point Cates did not make, although it was arguably implicit. More striking still was her argument that the lack of babies was down to “cultural Marxism that is systematically destroying our children’s souls”.

This was also the conference where Jacob Rees-Mogg (a member of the current UK government) spoke and admitted that recent changes to electoral law in England and Wales were an attempt at gerrymandering, to disenfranchise people who might vote for parties other than his, but that it had backfired. The Conservatives appear to have disenfranchised many of their own voters.

It's in plain sight now. These are National Conservatives, the NatCs.

There is not much more to be said.

Update: Judging by the discourse below, there certainly is more to be said. Once again I will not say it myself. Instead I'll post a link to SNP MP Mhairi Black's f-word speech given to Parliament last year.

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  • (Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 18, @09:12PM (27 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 18, @09:12PM (#1306907) Homepage Journal

    This may blow your mind, but non-white dudes with weapons are generally more respectful of everyone around them, than are the unarmed motormouths constantly calling me a nazi/fascist/hitleryouth/whitesupremacist/etc ad nauseum. It kinda goes with the territory, but most of you wouldn't understand that.

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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by Tork on Thursday May 18, @09:17PM (25 children)

    by Tork (3914) on Thursday May 18, @09:17PM (#1306909)
    Alrighty. So are you okay with all those peeps you claim are calling you fascist etc. being heavily armed, too?
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    • (Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 18, @09:28PM (24 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 18, @09:28PM (#1306910) Homepage Journal

      Are you a member of Redneck Revolt? https://indyweek.com/news/hate-racists-love-assault-rifles-meet-redneck-revolt/ [indyweek.com] https://www.counterextremism.com/supremacy/redneck-revolt [counterextremism.com]

      Yes, I do like the idea of the persecutors being armed. It's much easier to mount a legal defense, when forced to defend myself against them. Arm them to the teeth, load them for bear, and be sure that they wear some identifiable insignia. But, as I've already pointed out, don't be surprised that with time and experience, those 'rednecks' carrying weapons mellow out, and stop inciting shit.

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      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Tork on Thursday May 18, @09:50PM (20 children)

        by Tork (3914) on Thursday May 18, @09:50PM (#1306916)
        Heh. My experience is the opposite. I'm reasonably certain I've already told you about one of my friends 'jokingly' pulling a gun he thought wasn't loaded on me. I do have a question: What do you mean by 'identifiable insignia'? I'm low on sleep, sorry about my reading comprehension hiccup.
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        • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 18, @11:01PM (7 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 18, @11:01PM (#1306924) Homepage Journal

          We have a name for people who point guns at other people: criminal idiots. Children grow up learning the litany, "No gun is EVER unloaded, NEVER point a gun at anything you don't intend to shoot, NEVER touch the trigger until you intend to shoot".

          Identifiable insignia for Redneck Revolt seems to consist of a red bandanna and more general ANTIFA slogans and crap. It's always good to know who the enemy is.

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          Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
          • (Score: 5, Funny) by Tork on Thursday May 18, @11:43PM (6 children)

            by Tork (3914) on Thursday May 18, @11:43PM (#1306929)

            So... in a single post you're proposing general gun-safety and professing that political opponents of yours wear targets so you can easily shoot them. You accidentally made my next point for me. Heh I've got all this spare time, now.

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            Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
            • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @02:40AM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @02:40AM (#1306946)

              In 1967, Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take a human life. He replied, "I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed Communists".

              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @03:08PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @03:08PM (#1307015)

                Funaway modding up his own adhom shit posts may be the saddest part of Soylent News. Gotta love punchlines dehumanizing political opponents directly tied with murder, not even implied.

                • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @07:32PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @07:32PM (#1307053)

                  Gotta love punchlines dehumanizing political opponents directly tied with murder, not even implied.

                  You don't get it. [kym-cdn.com]

            • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Friday May 19, @01:41PM (2 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 19, @01:41PM (#1307007) Homepage Journal

              OK, cool. Don't wear a uniform of any kind. Skulk around like a spy. There are worse fates than being shot reserved for spies.

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              Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
              • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @07:09PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @07:09PM (#1307051)

                You first comrade!

                ^ by the law of rightwing projection

              • (Score: 3, Touché) by Tork on Friday May 19, @08:27PM

                by Tork (3914) on Friday May 19, @08:27PM (#1307062)
                Heh. So why is it you want to shoot me? Do I owe you an apology or something?
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        • (Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 18, @11:05PM (11 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 18, @11:05PM (#1306925) Homepage Journal

          Oh, imagine this scenario. You walk into a room, to find Jesus Christ, Mohammed, Hare Krishna, Zeus, Thor, and that little fat guy sitting around a table. Collectively, they tell you that the gun on the table is unloaded, and that you should put it in your pocket. So, you pick it up, put it in your pocket, and turn to face the assembly. And, you are told, "You fail, asshole, go to hell!" You mumble, "Huh, what?" And you're told, "You didn't clear the weapon before pocketing it!"

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20, @12:32PM (10 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20, @12:32PM (#1307128)

            You can't trust god these days? Who can you trust?

            • (Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Saturday May 20, @07:38PM (9 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 20, @07:38PM (#1307166) Homepage Journal

              Sorry if that whooshed you. TRUST NO ONE!! Don't even trust yourself. Double check that weapon from time to time, and make sure you didn't absent mindedly load it up, or, that your spouse didn't load it for you, or the fekkin' leper khans are messing with you. Then remember, even after you've cleared the weapon for the third time in a row, THERE ARE NO EMPTY WEAPONS!!

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              • (Score: 3, Touché) by Tork on Sunday May 21, @07:57PM (8 children)

                by Tork (3914) on Sunday May 21, @07:57PM (#1307246)

                Sorry if that whooshed you. TRUST NO ONE!! Don't even trust yourself.

                ... and you want these peeps to have guns the cops fear.

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                • (Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Sunday May 21, @09:16PM (7 children)

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 21, @09:16PM (#1307255) Homepage Journal

                  Well, yes, as a matter of fact, I do. Of course, there's a glaring problem with you statement. Guns the cops fear? Most of that is bullshit. Real cops don't shy away when a bad guy shows a weapon, unlike the cunts at Uvalde. The cop on the beat doesn't look at the weapon the bad guy has, before deciding whether to beat a hasty retreat, or to press ahead with an arrest. The 'much feared' AR-15 is no more, and no less, dangerous than any semi-auto of similar caliber. The propaganda just keeps on coming. (In the same vein, those "cop killer bullets" were teflon coated - and they didn't penetrate body armor any better or any worse than other bullets. Those bullets DO penetrate windshields better than any other bullets, but they don't penetrate armor.)

                  Back to whether people I like should be armed or not: HELL YES they should be armed. The constitution wasn't written for people I like. It wasn't written for people I don't like. It was written for ALL AMERICANS. That goes right along with, we have a "bill of rights", not a "bill of needs" or "bill of necessities" or whatever the hell people are talking about when they say "you don't really NEED an AR-15".

                  Now do you see? I don't want to deprive the Redneck Revenge people of the right to bear arms. Why would you want to deprive me of that right?

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                  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21, @09:27PM (2 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 21, @09:27PM (#1307256)
                    > Why would you want to deprive me of that right?

                    You've repeatedly expressed a desire to shoot a massive number of people. According to you all that's keeping us safe from you is that you haven't encountered a gun-free zone sign, yet.
                    • (Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 22, @12:17AM (1 child)

                      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 22, @12:17AM (#1307273) Homepage Journal

                      You'll need citations that I want to shoot anyone. Take your time, we have lots of time.

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                      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 22, @07:26AM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 22, @07:26AM (#1307292)

                        Kay. There’s one in this journal entry. You may use your lots of time to study your comments in this article.

                  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Tork on Sunday May 21, @11:28PM (2 children)

                    by Tork (3914) on Sunday May 21, @11:28PM (#1307265)

                    Real cops don't shy away when a bad guy shows a weapon, unlike the cunts at Uvalde.

                    Unfortunately we are talking about real cops. Frankly you should know better, you're proposing an arms race with law enforcement. Just the anti-big-gov't side of you, provided it ever actually existed, should have you pondering this.

                    Why would you want to deprive me of that right?

                    Not guilty.

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                    Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
                    • (Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 22, @12:26AM (1 child)

                      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 22, @12:26AM (#1307274) Homepage Journal

                      Arms race? Lemme think a moment. Those cities and states that outlaw "assault weapons" never outlaw them for cops, do they? How about jurisdictions that outlaw body armor? Are cops included? Do cops have access to full auto weapons? Yes they do, virtually any police department can submit paperwork for such a weapon, but civilians cannot. How about grenades? Don't let their non-technical jargon get in the way - a "flash-bang" is a grenade. I don't know if any police departments have fragmentation grenades, maybe, maybe not, but those concussion grenades are more than enough. How 'bout those armored personnel carriers? Cops can have them - do you think the DoD will sell me one? Probably not, but they literally GIVE THEM to police departments.

                      Cops are all the time demonstrating "new technology". I watched a video, where the cops can wrap a super-duty zip tie thingy around your tires, and bring you to a screeching halt. They have demonstrated the ability to zap a car electronically, to kill the ignition. They are begging for remote-off switches in newer cars. Basically, everything that a hacker can dream of, the cops want it, and oftentimes get it.

                      Arms race.

                      This is the United States. The power was supposed to belong to the people.

                      And, don't forget Mao. Political power grows from the barrel of a gun. Cops have too much power already, and the playing field needs leveling.

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                      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 22, @02:13PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 22, @02:13PM (#1307326)

                        "This is the United States. The power was supposed to belong to the people.

                        And, don't forget Mao. Political power grows from the barrel of a gun."

                        Don't forget Hitler or the numerous US racists that helped inspire him! Political power does not flow from a gun either, it flows from people. Guns are often used to convince people, but no one should have such an unhealthy obsession with them.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 22, @02:43PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 22, @02:43PM (#1307332)

                    Ignorant moron, now with guns!

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, @10:53PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, @10:53PM (#1306923)

        Yes, I do like the idea of the persecutors being armed.

        You didn't answer his question. He's not asking if you think you should be armed.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @01:09AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19, @01:09AM (#1306940)

          Aw, c'mon, a troll mod? I posted this as a sarcastic quip. Have a sense of humor! Please don't throw a troll mod at my other sarcastic reply in this thread, too.

          Being serious for a moment, I really despise some of Runaway's political views, like what he's posted in this thread. Other times, he posts some reasonable comments, especially when he's not discussing political issues. I don't despise him personally, not at all. I just wish he'd abandon his screwed up views.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20, @07:39PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 20, @07:39PM (#1307167)

            Silly boi, there are no non-political issues.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, @11:33PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 18, @11:33PM (#1306927)

    than are the unarmed motormouths constantly calling me a nazi/fascist/hitleryouth/whitesupremacist/etc ad nauseum

    If you don't want to be called a racist, don't post racist crap. This isn't difficult to figure out.