I think the editors have a fairly good idea that most of the people who post here would like the site and the community to continue. When I first saw NCommander's story in the queue, I was disappointed and emailed janrinok to ask if it meant what it the title suggested it meant. I obviously want to see the site and the community continue.
It seems like this is pretty much a unilateral decision that caught a lot of people off guard. To be honest, I was really taken aback by the tone of NCommander's announcement. Perhaps I misread it, but I read it as NCommander saying that a large part of the reason that the site is in its current state is that when there was disagreement about how to proceed, he backed down instead of insisting that things be done the way he wanted. I read it as NCommander saying that it was more or less his fault because he didn't overrule people at times when there wasn't a consensus. Perhaps I misread it, but I didn't care for the way the announcement came across to me. I could be wrong, but that's just my interpretation. I understand not wanting the responsibility of managing an antiquated CMS and the concerns about liability if there's a data breach. If there are serious concerns about security, I do understand taking things offline fairly quickly. That would have made sense without what felt like the airing of dirty laundry.
I think there are a lot of people, both staff and ordinary users, who would really like to see the site and the community continue. I think a lot of that has been established by the discussions in janrinok's article about the future of the community. There are also discussions taking place about NCommander turning over control of the PBC to a person who goes by kolie on IRC. You can look at the #soylent logs to see more, though I haven't seen any updates in the past couple of days. The discussions between him and NCommander aren't taking place publicly, so I have no idea where that stands. He provided his amateur radio call sign, so you can look him up in the FCC's license database to find out who he is. Then if you do a search for his name, you can find more about his background in tech. However, there seems to be another person who works in tech and shares his name, so you'll want to make sure that you're looking at the right person. Use this information responsibly, but it's not a bad thing to know a bit about the background of the person who might be taking over the site.
Anyway, it seems like these things are going on in parallel, and it sounds like NCommander would prefer to transfer control of SN instead of shutting it down. I think a lot of people really want the site and the community to continue, but it's just a question of the practical details going forward, and wheher it's a direct continuation of SN or a new site. I think that quite a few things will change on June 30, but from what I've seen, I'm pretty optimistic that the site and the community will continue in some form.
I don't mean to be unfair to NCommander, and I hope it doesn't seem like that. I think he would prefer the site and the PBC to continue, just with someone else in charge.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26, @01:10AM
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday May 26, @01:10AM (#1308242)
Ditto, I want the site to continue. No tech chops or time to offer (already have a time consuming volunteer position), but I'll certainly ante up if there is a call for $$ support. And I'll keep posting stories when I see something that looks interesting.
SN History to learn from? I posted this in another thread but I think too late for anyone to go back and find it -- the link below is to a post on /. that claims to be from the original SN founder "Okian Warrior" ...before NCommander took the reins. Starts here: https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=22896239&cid=63544079 [slashdot.org]
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Gaaark on Thursday May 25, @04:54PM (2 children)
I guess it'd just let the editors/those who care know who IS interested.
Who cares about those who aren't. We'll eat those people with ketchup and Soylent Red. :)
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 3, Insightful) by dalek on Thursday May 25, @07:45PM (1 child)
I think the editors have a fairly good idea that most of the people who post here would like the site and the community to continue. When I first saw NCommander's story in the queue, I was disappointed and emailed janrinok to ask if it meant what it the title suggested it meant. I obviously want to see the site and the community continue.
It seems like this is pretty much a unilateral decision that caught a lot of people off guard. To be honest, I was really taken aback by the tone of NCommander's announcement. Perhaps I misread it, but I read it as NCommander saying that a large part of the reason that the site is in its current state is that when there was disagreement about how to proceed, he backed down instead of insisting that things be done the way he wanted. I read it as NCommander saying that it was more or less his fault because he didn't overrule people at times when there wasn't a consensus. Perhaps I misread it, but I didn't care for the way the announcement came across to me. I could be wrong, but that's just my interpretation. I understand not wanting the responsibility of managing an antiquated CMS and the concerns about liability if there's a data breach. If there are serious concerns about security, I do understand taking things offline fairly quickly. That would have made sense without what felt like the airing of dirty laundry.
I think there are a lot of people, both staff and ordinary users, who would really like to see the site and the community continue. I think a lot of that has been established by the discussions in janrinok's article about the future of the community. There are also discussions taking place about NCommander turning over control of the PBC to a person who goes by kolie on IRC. You can look at the #soylent logs to see more, though I haven't seen any updates in the past couple of days. The discussions between him and NCommander aren't taking place publicly, so I have no idea where that stands. He provided his amateur radio call sign, so you can look him up in the FCC's license database to find out who he is. Then if you do a search for his name, you can find more about his background in tech. However, there seems to be another person who works in tech and shares his name, so you'll want to make sure that you're looking at the right person. Use this information responsibly, but it's not a bad thing to know a bit about the background of the person who might be taking over the site.
Anyway, it seems like these things are going on in parallel, and it sounds like NCommander would prefer to transfer control of SN instead of shutting it down. I think a lot of people really want the site and the community to continue, but it's just a question of the practical details going forward, and wheher it's a direct continuation of SN or a new site. I think that quite a few things will change on June 30, but from what I've seen, I'm pretty optimistic that the site and the community will continue in some form.
I don't mean to be unfair to NCommander, and I hope it doesn't seem like that. I think he would prefer the site and the PBC to continue, just with someone else in charge.
EXTERMINATE
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26, @01:10AM
Ditto, I want the site to continue. No tech chops or time to offer (already have a time consuming volunteer position), but I'll certainly ante up if there is a call for $$ support. And I'll keep posting stories when I see something that looks interesting.
SN History to learn from?
I posted this in another thread but I think too late for anyone to go back and find it -- the link below is to a post on /. that claims to be from the original SN founder "Okian Warrior" ...before NCommander took the reins. Starts here:
https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=22896239&cid=63544079 [slashdot.org]