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posted by mrcoolbp on Monday March 23 2015, @09:47AM   Printer-friendly
from the old-mac-new-internet dept.

From the Kernel:

Reviving an old computer is like restoring a classic car: There’s a thrill from bringing the ancient into the modern world. So it was with my first “real” computer, my Mac Plus, when I decided to bring it forward three decades and introduce it to the modern Web.

Yes, in a certain sense, my Mac has already been on the Internet, first via BBSes and later via Lynx through a dial-up shell sessions. (There’s nothing quite like erotic literature at 2400 bps when you’re 13 years old.) What it never did was run a TCP/IP stack of its own. It was always just a dumb terminal on the ’net, never a full-fledged member.

How hard could it be to right that wrong?

The original article was posted in late 2013, but this republishing qualifies it for timeliness, so that makes it okay.

 
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  • (Score: 2) by arashi no garou on Monday March 23 2015, @07:38PM

    by arashi no garou (2796) on Monday March 23 2015, @07:38PM (#161654)

    What you don't seem to get is that I never took issue with the question "why". What I took issue with was the reason you initially gave for asking: "I don't swallow it even under the pretence of art: the result is not even esthetically pleasing." The implication is that, because you don't see the value in it, it's wasted effort. "Why would someone do something that I don't find pleasing" is how your original post came across, and that's a narcissistic and elitist attitude, whether you realize you're doing it or not.

    Whether or not you, c0lo, find it aesthetically pleasing doesn't matter. It wasn't done to please you, it was done to please the guy who did it in the first place. And that's the answer to your question of "why": Because he wanted to.

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday March 23 2015, @07:57PM

    by c0lo (156) on Monday March 23 2015, @07:57PM (#161662) Journal

    The implication is that, because you don't see the value in it, it's wasted effort.

    My apologies, but it wasn't my implication, it was your inference. And a wrong one in this very case.
    Yes, you are correct: I didn't see the value of it. No, you are wrong, I didn't make any absolute value judgement, I was asking: "What could the author find interesting in doing it?"

    And that's the answer to your question of "why": Because he wanted to.

    (mmm... I remember saying something about "definite answers") Yes, I got it: it is your guess (not a very satisfying for me, it is too close to my taste to the "Because God wanted so" form of answering). I do prefer the hypothesis derived from this [soylentnews.org] thread.

    Whether or not you, c0lo, find it aesthetically pleasing doesn't matter. It wasn't done to please you, it was done to please the guy who did it in the first place.

    Point taken: next time I'll try to avoid sounding dismissive - thanks for that.

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    • (Score: 2) by arashi no garou on Monday March 23 2015, @08:22PM

      by arashi no garou (2796) on Monday March 23 2015, @08:22PM (#161676)

      I didn't make any absolute value judgement

      "the result is not even esthetically pleasing" certainly seems like a value judgement to me.

      As for the rest: If you had simply asked "why did he do this?" the answer is in his own blog post about it: Nostalgia and fun. But you didn't just ask "why", you asked "why did he do something I don't find aesthetically pleasing" and that's why you got the responses you did. Looking at the thread as a whole, I'm not the only person who was put off by your attitude. Does that make you a bad person? No, but you clearly have a sense of superiority and pomp, it's all over your writing style.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday March 23 2015, @10:17PM

        by c0lo (156) on Monday March 23 2015, @10:17PM (#161724) Journal
        Ok, ok. I assumed that esthetic judgements are automatically interpreted as subjective (as opposed to absolute). My mistake, my apologies.
        Clear now?
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