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posted by martyb on Monday March 30 2015, @09:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the of-course-there-are-no-backups dept.

Anyone who follows American politics will have heard of Hillary Clinton's email server. Rather than using an official State Department address, she chose to use a private server for her official email. Federal law requires all official email to be archived on government servers. Armchair lawyers have pointed out that it doesn't require the use of government servers to send and receive the email, but the archival requirement is clear. This requirement was clearly violated in this case: in response to a subpoena, Hillary Clinton's private staff extracted emails from her private server and turned them over to the government. The contents of the server itself were never made available to the government, and now she has had the server erased:

Hillary Clinton wiped “clean” the private server housing emails from her tenure as secretary of state, the chairman of the House committee investigating the 2012 terrorist attacks in Benghazi said Friday.

“While it is not clear precisely when Secretary Clinton decided to permanently delete all emails from her server, it appears she made the decision after October 28, 2014, when the Department of State for the first time asked the Secretary to return her public record to the Department,” Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi, said in a statement.

As Popehat tweeted:

@Popehat
I ask you, who among us hasn't wiped a server clean after its contents were requested by subpoena?

I naively wonder why she isn't in jail, but that's just me. Comments and views from those interested in American politics?

 
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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Monday March 30 2015, @02:32PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 30 2015, @02:32PM (#164251) Journal

    the killing of Vince Foster

    Chris Ruddy, the CEO of NewsMax, founded that theory and pushed it heavily. He is now Bill Clinton's best pal; I've sat in meetings with the two of them. I've also seen Bill Clinton meeting with Rupert Murdoch. Truly, the Republicans vs. Democrats, Left vs. Right divide in America is all for the rubes. The Clintons, Bushes, Soroses, Murdochs of the world are on the same side.

    Liberals, I ask you: Can you not find ANY OTHER WOMAN who is more qualified to lead, than this bitch?

    I don't identify as a "liberal," in the "bleeding heart liberal" sense of the word, but as a "progressive" in the Teddy Roosevelt sense of the word, but I'll take the question. Elizabeth Warren should be the first woman President of the United States. She keeps kicking Wall Street hard in the nuts. Nobody else in the federal government is doing that. I would vote for a Republican who did that over Hillary Clinton, any day, but none of them do. I want to see Wall Street banks destroyed the way Andersen Consulting was, and all of their top- and middle- executives perp-walked in handcuffs to a SuperMax near you.

    I truly despise that woman. She is pure evil.

    I agree 100%. If she is elected President I will emigrate. No place on Earth is safe from an evil President of the United States in this era, but perhaps my kids will get enough time to come of age before civilization comes crashing down.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by linuxrocks123 on Monday March 30 2015, @03:44PM

    by linuxrocks123 (2557) on Monday March 30 2015, @03:44PM (#164312) Journal

    perhaps my kids will get enough time to come of age before civilization comes crashing down.

    See, stuff like this is just pure wing-nuttery. Both parties in the US are pretty centrist, although the Republicans do have a large far-right contingent that the establishment tries to keep mostly under control. Hillary Clinton has no interest in and will not intentionally cause the downfall of civilization. She's not the Antichrist, and it's not in her interest to do that. She's also an intelligent human being who would have a pretty good understanding of what actions would and would not be likely to cause the downfall of civilization, and, again, in her own self-interest if for no other reasons, she would choose not to engage in actions likely to cause the downfall of civilization.

    It's fine not to like Obama, either Clinton, McCain, Bush, etc. But they're people, not demons. Get it together.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Monday March 30 2015, @04:01PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 30 2015, @04:01PM (#164322) Journal

      OK, do you know these people personally? Have you interacted with them? I have. I have sat in meetings with them, I have been in their inner sanctums. They are not honorable people, they do not care one jot for you or anyone else. They are as alien to the experience of the average American as an actual alien. To put it in American terms, they are like the Palins, but with better PR success. That is, they are grifters.

      I do know the difference between normal people, and normal people with the ability to screw things up for a great many more people than themselves. The Clintons are the latter. They should not be let anywhere near the levers of power again, however symbolic those levers of power have become.

      So do not stand up in defense of politicans you do not know, unless you are a paid shill. It calls you out, and renders your words moot.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @09:12PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @09:12PM (#164485)

        OK, do you know these people personally? Have you interacted with them? I have. I have sat in meetings with them, I have been in their inner sanctums.

        You are so fucking delusional. There is no way you've ever "sat in a meeting" with Obama, the Clintons, McCain, or any Bush. Not a chance. Maybe you attended one of the tens of inauguration balls held after every election, and they made a perfunctory appearance before moving on to the next one. But even that's a stretch.

        • (Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Tuesday March 31 2015, @09:49PM

          by hemocyanin (186) on Tuesday March 31 2015, @09:49PM (#165082) Journal

          They are as alien to the experience of the average American as an actual alien.

          This part makes me think he's telling the truth.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 01 2015, @09:08PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 01 2015, @09:08PM (#165579)

          How can you be so sure? First you need to read more carefully, he never claimed to have been in a meeting with Obama, Bush or McCain, he was talking specifically about the Clintons.

          In another comment he claimed to have worked for a PoTUS, and in a different comment he stated he had sat in a meeting with Bill Clinton and Chris Ruddy. Taken together this implies he worked for Bill Clinton while he was president, that being the case it is plausible he would also have met Hilary Clinton.

          We may not be able to verify Phoenix666's claims, but they are at least coherent and plausible.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @06:08PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @06:08PM (#164394)

      Both parties in the US are pretty centrist

      Centrist? compared to themselves, maybe. Compared to every other industrialized nation on the planet both parties are right wing. The Republican party is slightly more right wing and its "base" (crazy minority) is totalitarian. E.g., socialized, single payer health care is a centrist idea with the humans on the rest of the planet. It's considered a left wing conspiracy in the U.S.

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @06:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @06:16PM (#164398)

      Both parties in the US are pretty centrist

      No, even the "left" in the US is pretty far to the right. The US has two parties - the right and the bat-shit-crazy insanely-far right. Even a centrist position would get you mocked as a "communist" in the US. That what we call "communist" isn't even a position to the left, being "totalitarian state capitalism" and all, doesn't help.

    • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday March 30 2015, @07:34PM

      by HiThere (866) on Monday March 30 2015, @07:34PM (#164441) Journal

      I'll agree that both parties in the US are pretty similar, but I'd call them rather far towards the authoritarian wing of the authoritarian-anarchist axis, and not very near the center at all. I *do* think that the center is the only sane type of government, but that's not what you get when you have government run by those who worship power.

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    • (Score: 2) by dry on Tuesday March 31 2015, @04:01AM

      by dry (223) on Tuesday March 31 2015, @04:01AM (#164639) Journal

      Both parties in the US are pretty centrist,

      Look at the 2008 contenders politics, http://politicalcompass.org/images/usprimaries_2008.png [politicalcompass.org] , 2 contenders to the left and 3 contenders towards the libertarian philosophy. The rest are right wing authoritarians to one degree or another with the most extreme being red.

      • (Score: 2) by linuxrocks123 on Tuesday March 31 2015, @06:40AM

        by linuxrocks123 (2557) on Tuesday March 31 2015, @06:40AM (#164677) Journal

        I've never heard of that site. Why do you think it is persuasive?

        • (Score: 2) by dry on Sunday April 05 2015, @05:52PM

          by dry (223) on Sunday April 05 2015, @05:52PM (#166708) Journal

          Read their introduction at http://politicalcompass.org/ [politicalcompass.org] and perhaps check out their test. It's not perfect but compared to the idiots who call Obama socialist or communist because he gave a huge giveaway to the insurance companies...