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posted by n1 on Sunday May 24 2015, @02:11PM   Printer-friendly
from the justice-is-blind dept.

Nainder Sarao sits in jail because he cannot raise the £5M bail that is required for his release. He has apparently made millions while living in his parents' basement, but doesn't have access to the money because his accounts have been frozen. What is claimed by US authorities is that "... Mr Sarao placed "spoof" trades in E-Mini S&P derivatives in a bid to push the market in his favour. The orders would be placed and withdrawn in rapid succession using a customised computer programme, they allege", which sounds a lot like high-frequency trading. Perhaps his real crime was to copy the techniques of wealthy high-speed traders?

 
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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by n1 on Sunday May 24 2015, @03:36PM

    by n1 (993) on Sunday May 24 2015, @03:36PM (#187172) Journal

    I can only assume HFT is illegal, unless you're in the club of 'large financial institutions and their partners', then it's stimulating the economy and creating liquidity, helping the stock market and therefor the economy to reach all new highs.

    Much like how insider trading is illegal, unless you're Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan, then it's your business model.

    Don't you feel better now?

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  • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by Dunbal on Sunday May 24 2015, @04:32PM

    by Dunbal (3515) on Sunday May 24 2015, @04:32PM (#187187)

    IT shouldn't be illegal. No spoofing in the world can force you to buy stock. If you're dumb enough to chase the price then you deserve what you get.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by kurenai.tsubasa on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:29PM

      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:29PM (#187301) Journal

      Have to agree here.

      I know it would be a very bad thing short-term, but I'd like to suggest that when “flash crashes” happen that it should be illegal to hit the rewind button. Maybe long term if trillions of dollars of wealth could go up in smoke because of some algorithm somewhere, maybe, just maybe, folks might learn that gambling is a bad thing….

      Just like I'd still rather be standing in line at a soup kitchen as long as the guy next to me was one of the assholes who turned the economy on its head in 2008.

      I don't know. I can dream.

      Capitalism? Invisible hand? Sure, there's a lot to that. Except the inevitable forces of power rear their ugly heads when the invisible hand is about to bitch slap a large swath of greedy, short-sighted, dimwitted investors who are supposed to be our “betters.”

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by nitehawk214 on Sunday May 24 2015, @09:37PM

      by nitehawk214 (1304) on Sunday May 24 2015, @09:37PM (#187360)

      I would agree... if they put some kind of transaction fee on placing the spoof trades. Financial institutions get to rollback trades if they were placed in error too.

      --
      "Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
  • (Score: 2) by Mr Big in the Pants on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:48PM

    by Mr Big in the Pants (4956) on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:48PM (#187316)

    I think the moral of the story is:

    Learn your place slave!

    If you have not worked out that this is a corporate run world where your expected role is to stay on the treadmill for as little as possible reward until you drop dead (preferably a few seconds after retirement) then you are a mouth breathing idiot...