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posted by cmn32480 on Sunday July 05 2015, @03:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the ready-or-not-here-we-come-ipv6 dept.

In an article in the Hindustan Times, The American Registry is quoted as telling us that they are running out of IPV4 addresses.

On Wednesday July 1, the ARIN - in charge of North America - was forced to turn down a request for a block of IP addresses for the first time in history. The CIO Richard Jimmerson told CBS news "We are weeks away from having zero left."

On the same subject, Arstechnica details the emerging IPv4 address trading market.

We spoke to Janine Goodman, vice president of Avenue4, a broker of IPv4 addresses, about what to expect in the short term.

"IPv6 is going to happen, that's the direction it's going," she said. "But it's going to take a while. Organizations are not ready to turn to IPv6 tomorrow; this will take a few years. A transfer market allows for the transition from IPv4 to IPv6 in a responsible way, not a panicked way."

"The price for blocks of IPv4 addresses of 65,536 addresses (a /16) or smaller is about $7 to $8 per address in the ARIN region. In other regions, which have fewer addresses out there, the price tends to be a little higher," Goodman said. "We expect the IPv4 market to be around for at least three to five years. During that time, the price per address will likely go up and then finally come back down as IPv6 is being widely deployed."


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by kaszz on Sunday July 05 2015, @04:28PM

    by kaszz (4211) on Sunday July 05 2015, @04:28PM (#205309) Journal

    When ISPs provides native IPv6 without a fuss or the need for IPv6 tunneling as an alternative. And commercial fiber, cable and DSLAM/DSL modems actually has firmware that support IPv6 right out of the box. Then maybe it's believable that this talk about "IPv6 is going to happen" is real. Currently it's more like "IPv6 what's that?" and "No one asks for it". IPv6 tunneling is one possibility but it has serious performance drawbacks and makes configuration a mess.

    So you can measure if IPv6 is actually happening by:
      * The distance to your nearest native IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel provider. And that tunnel is encrypted right?
      * Any reachable ISP that will provide native IPv6.
      * Commercial provider and subscriber fiber/cable/DSL modems that has supporting IPv6 firmware out of the box.

    In the meantime go for OpenWRT [openwrt.org] and IPv6 tunnel providers. The only way to route around the braindamage in between.

    But a crisis seems to do magic for making things happen! ;-)

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  • (Score: 2) by frojack on Sunday July 05 2015, @04:43PM

    by frojack (1554) on Sunday July 05 2015, @04:43PM (#205313) Journal

    I believe Comcast supports IPV6 natively. But you can never be sure with them just how far this goes.
    http://customer.xfinity.com/help-and-support/internet/about-ipv6/ [xfinity.com]

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by gman003 on Sunday July 05 2015, @06:03PM

      by gman003 (4155) on Sunday July 05 2015, @06:03PM (#205334)

      I just signed up for Comcast. I didn't have to do anything to enable IPv6 - plugged the modem in, got my line enabled, and it worked.

      Granted, getting ANY connectivity took longer than it should have, due to the former tenant not disconnecting their service, but it still got sorted fairly quickly compared to my last ISP.

  • (Score: 2) by gnuman on Sunday July 05 2015, @05:09PM

    by gnuman (5013) on Sunday July 05 2015, @05:09PM (#205321)

    The internet backbone has been IPv6 ready for over a decade now. My DSL modem comes with IPv6 right out of the box too, but ISP doesn't have support. The *only* problem with no IPv6 is my local ISP - a monopoly. They finally went about to getting an IPv6 prefix, but they have no clue how stuff works.

    Everywhere else, IPv6 is running. Be that backbone, be that most data centers of any size, be that any relevant registry. All are IPv6 enabled.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by kaszz on Sunday July 05 2015, @05:15PM

      by kaszz (4211) on Sunday July 05 2015, @05:15PM (#205322) Journal

      Again ISP is the bottleneck. I wonder what would "make them" change?

      One idea.. A personal photo blog with Bieber only on IPv6? :P

      • (Score: 2) by TheRaven on Thursday July 09 2015, @09:02AM

        by TheRaven (270) on Thursday July 09 2015, @09:02AM (#206881) Journal
        That's basically what my ISP has said. Their network and end-user routers mostly work with IPv6, but it's not a priority for them until users start complaining about being unable to access IPv6-only content. They'll roll it out when normal users start phoning their support line and having conversations a bit like this:

        Customer: I can't access this site!
        ISP: No, that's IPv6 only.
        Customer: What's IPv6?
        ISP: Internet Protocol version 6.
        Customer: What version do I have?
        ISP: We only provide IPv4 Customer: But I paid for Internet access, it didn't say I could only access Internet 4, when Internet 6 is already out!

        At that point, it stops being a thing that only geeks care about and becomes a thing that's likely to cost them business.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 05 2015, @05:27PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 05 2015, @05:27PM (#205326)

    > When ISPs provides native IPv6 without a fuss or the need for IPv6 tunneling as an alternative.

    I got an email from a friend who has zero technical ability and for some reason I decided to check the Received: headers and noticed that it was sent from her iphone to google via IPv6, that prompted me to go google it and I found out that Time Warner Cable has deployed IPv6 to all of their residential systems. Apparently Comcast has turned on IPv6 for the majority of their customers too.

  • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Monday July 06 2015, @07:29PM

    by tangomargarine (667) on Monday July 06 2015, @07:29PM (#205801)

    I'm betting it'll be that scenario where Google figures out a way to support it and shames everyone else into following suit.

    Google may be suspicious as hell but they have their moments.

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