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posted by martyb on Wednesday February 13 2019, @01:22AM   Printer-friendly
from the cell-ular-automaton dept.

March: We Are Legion (We Are Bob) (Bobiverse #1) by Dennis Taylor

Discuss The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein in the comments below.

Fiasco was translated into English in 1988 by Michael Kandel:

Fiasco (Polish: Fiasko) is a science fiction novel by Polish author Stanisław Lem, first published in a German translation in 1986. The book, published in Poland the following year, is a further elaboration of Lem's skepticism: in Lem's opinion, the difficulty in communication with alien civilizations is cultural disparity rather than spatial distance. The failure to communicate with an alien civilization is the main theme of the book.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by hendrikboom on Wednesday February 13 2019, @10:49AM (3 children)

    by hendrikboom (1125) on Wednesday February 13 2019, @10:49AM (#800560) Homepage Journal

    The way Heinlein has computers become alive is as reasonable as handwavy "Hyperspace" drives.

    Doesn't work that way, does it? But considering what was known *then* about AI, sufficiently complex computers coming alive was a quite reasonable extrapolation.

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  • (Score: 2) by deimtee on Wednesday February 13 2019, @11:31AM

    by deimtee (3272) on Wednesday February 13 2019, @11:31AM (#800562) Journal

    The human genetic code will fit on a CD. Somewhere in there is the instructions to build an AI.
    It may require later environmental information inputs and a lot of intellectual interaction, but the basic construction instructions are in there. Less than 700MB.

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    200 million years is actually quite a long time.
  • (Score: 2, Disagree) by HiThere on Wednesday February 13 2019, @05:37PM (1 child)

    by HiThere (866) on Wednesday February 13 2019, @05:37PM (#800660) Journal

    No. No. No.

    It was NEVER a reasonable assumption. It was merely an assumption necessary for the story to work, which is a very different thing.

    If you want a more reasonable scenario that was fictional, look at "A Logic Named Joe". It was written by Murray Leinster in 1946. It still wouldn't work, but it was, at the time, a (more) reasonable scenario, and is still much more reasonable than "Adan Selene" (AKA "Mike"). It also contains a proto-Internet.

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    • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Wednesday February 13 2019, @11:28PM

      by NotSanguine (285) <NotSanguineNO@SPAMSoylentNews.Org> on Wednesday February 13 2019, @11:28PM (#800783) Homepage Journal

      And by the way, I read A Logic Named Joe many years ago (and more recently two or three years ago) and as I recall, it wasn't all that different from Heinlein's Mycroft.

      IIRC, in both scenarios, they kept piling on more and more hardware, applications, data processing and external input/stimuli. In the case of the Leinster story there was more direct interaction with humans as I recall.

      Maybe I'll go back and read it again.

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      No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr