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Renoir Laptop APUs and Threadripper 3

Posted by takyon on Thursday October 17 2019, @02:05AM (#4679)
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Hardware

AMD’s Upcoming 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper ‘Castle Peak’, Ryzen 3000 ‘Mattise’ CPUs and Ryzen APUs ‘Renoir’ Spotted Online

AMD 4th Gen Ryzen APU 'Renoir' Family - 7nm Zen 2 CPU + Navi GPU Cores Combined

Coming to the details, the 4th Gen Ryzen APU lineup would be replacing the 3rd Gen APU lineup which is based on the Zen+ core architecture and Vega graphics architecture. The 4th Gen lineup, codenamed Renoir, would feature support on FP6 (Notebook) and AM4 (Desktop) platforms. The current AMD Ryzen notebook lineup is based around the FP5 socket and since FP6 is a whole new socket change, we can expect a drastic change to the feature set of the Renoir generation of CPUs. There's a large list of FP6 Ryzen 'Renoir' APUs listed which include the following:

AMD Ryzen 9 B12 (45W)
AMD Ryzen 7 B10 (45W)
AMD Ryzen 5 B8 (45W)
AMD Ryzen 9 PRO B12 (15W)
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO B10 (15W)
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO B8 (15W)
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO B6 (15W)

From the looks of it, AMD would be segmenting their 4th Gen Ryzen notebook lineup into regular consumer and PRO consumer variants. The regular variants would feature a 45W TDP which is a bump from the existing 35W TDP while the PRO variants will feature a 15W TDP. What's interesting here is that AMD is planning to go up to Ryzen 9 on their notebooks as AMD wants to take the fight to Intel's 45W Core i9 parts.

I cannot say for sure what the "B**" notifier stands for but it could be telling us the core count for each specific processor. If that is the case, then AMD would be offering up to 12 cores on their flagship notebook processor compared to Intel's current Core i9-9980HK which comes with 8 cores and 16 threads. AMD Ryzen 7 APUs would feature 10 cores, Ryzen 5 would feature 8 cores and Ryzen 3 series would feature 6 cores. There may be some entry-level quad-core variants but they aren't mentioned in this particular list. We recently covered how AMD wants to disrupt the note-book sector now that they are completely dominating Intel in the desktop market.

I don't know if I believe this one. There could be more variants than what's listed, but 6-12 cores (which is speculation based on the B12/B10/B8/B6 code) seems aggressive. I expect a low-end 4-core somewhere in the Renoir notebook lineup, and I would be surprised to see 10 or 12 cores. But there's probably nothing stopping them from doing it. The Picasso monolithic chips have about a 210 mm2 die size. Inside Zen 2 chiplets, 4 cores with 16 MB of L3 cache is about 31.3 mm2. Maybe there is enough room to throw in 12 cores, a memory controller, multimedia engine, GPU cores, etc. It's possible that 10 or 12 core versions could ditch the integrated GPU in favor of an RX 5500 discrete GPU, as seen here.

Previous leaks have suggested Vega instead of Navi graphics. Which would be a little dumb if true. Now we're back to Navi.

A 45W TDP is a little high but this can just be configured lower by the manufacturer. See Intel's TDP-up and TDP-down. There are gaming laptops that have Ryzen desktop chips in them with sufficient cooling and/or lower clocks.

Moving on to the desktop parts, we know that AMD will be offering their HEDT 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper CPUs starting with a 24 core and 48 thread SKU. The list includes a 16 core / 32 thread and 32 core / 64 thread models too.

16-core Threadripper could be useful for more memory channels or PCIe lanes, but it does encroach on Ryzen 9 3950X.

Now coming to the WRX80 series, we are looking at a pure workstation lineup. Even the processors built around this platform are spec'd similar to the EPYC 7002 variants, featuring 8-channel DDR4-3200 support in UDIMM, RDIMM, LRDIMM flavors. The platform would support 1 DIMM/channel featuring support for up to 2 TB of memory. There wouldn't be any OC support like the TRX40 series but you get 96-128 Gen4 PCIe lanes with 32 switchable lanes to SATA. The Group 'B' series processors which are the workstation lineup for the WRX80 platform will also feature a 280W TDP but different temperature range of Tcase Max temperature of 81C and Tctl Max of 100C.

Threadripper 3 could top out at 48 or 64 cores, but you might not see them in 2019.

This is why the democrats suck

Posted by fustakrakich on Wednesday October 16 2019, @05:57PM (#4678)
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You're supposed to lock the bastard up.

We have to impeach congress, but, fuck, that ain't gonna happen either. Republican and democrat SOBs will all be reelected.

Watching the debate?

Posted by fustakrakich on Wednesday October 16 2019, @01:30AM (#4677)
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Yeah, Tulsi is the only one worth a damn, the only one to speak the truth about Syria, all the other clowns won't address our alliance with Al Qaeda, and our presence as the cause of the problem, not even Pete, who is just a Macron type banker's boy anyway. And she sounded much less like the typical condescending politician.

Too bad she puts the Party first.

Edit:

I am noticing she is not getting much air time since the Syria argument. Completely passed over during the gun thing. Considering the format and people running it, I am not surprised.

Edit2:

Sadly it was just another horrible clown pageant. So many promises to break... You can't fit all that BS into three hours.

Tulsi/Oprah (can't forget Oprah, she 's the clincher) is the ticket to beat. Since the DNC would never let it happen anyway, she has to go indie. Then watch the democrat/republicans unite in the attacks, showing they are really one in the same.

Trump increased oversea troop deployments then muzzled stats

Posted by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 15 2019, @06:03PM (#4676)
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The Cardinals need our thoughts and prayers!

Posted by fustakrakich on Tuesday October 15 2019, @04:15AM (#4673)
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They're down 3-0 against the, Nationals? Who the hell are they? And when did the Astros jump over to the American league?

Half a Phone

Posted by takyon on Tuesday October 15 2019, @03:37AM (#4672)
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Nowhere to run...

Posted by fustakrakich on Monday October 14 2019, @06:38AM (#4668)
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My discomfort in the last few years, first with Russiagate and now with Ukrainegate and impeachment, stems from the belief that the people pushing hardest for Trump’s early removal are more dangerous than Trump. Many Americans don’t see this because they’re not used to waking up in a country where you’re not sure who the president will be by nightfall. They don’t understand that this predicament is worse than having a bad president.

[emph mine]

Here's looking at you, DNC!

When is she going to announce?

Zen 3 Breathing Room, and Navi Ray Tracing Support

Posted by takyon on Sunday October 13 2019, @10:24AM (#4666)
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Hardware

Rumor : AMD Zen 3 Delivers 8%+ IPC & 200Mhz Higher Clock vs Zen 2

Not stunning, but could end up as a 13-14% overall performance increase. (1.08*(4.1/3.9)) = 13.5% for the 3800X.

If true, Zen 3 is a nice breather for AMD. Not a fantastic increase, but still somewhat better than the Zen+ increase.

Rumor : AMD Bringing Ray Tracing Support to Navi in December

Hardware acceleration of raytracing is confirmed for PlayStation 5. This is not that. The generation of desktop GPUs after Navi might have dedicated acceleration (Navi 2?).

Microsoft's DirectX Ray Tracing is mentioned, but not Vulkan (yet).

AMD Arcturus Next-Gen GPU Support Added To HWiNFO, Could Be Featured In Radeon Instinct AI/HPC Lineup As Early As 2020

This would be a replacement for Vega, which is used in enterprise GPU products. AMD has basically split the consumer and business product lines, with RDNA (Navi, Navi 2...) being focused solely on gaming GPUs. Maybe Arcturus will be known as GCN 6th gen, beats me.

Tiptoeing Around Hunter Biden

Posted by takyon on Saturday October 12 2019, @03:38PM (#4663)
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Career & Education

Tiptoeing Around Hunter Biden (archive)

So far, none of the Democratic primary candidates have taken a hard swing at Mr. Biden, focusing instead on the impeachment inquiry into Mr. Trump. But a few are, quite delicately, trying to raise some concerns. Former Representative Beto O’Rourke suggested, albeit mildly, that Hunter Biden’s work posed a problem, telling reporters, “I would not allow a family member, anyone in my cabinet to have a family member, to work in a position like that.”

Senator Cory Booker called Mr. Biden “truly an honorable man” on CNN last week, adding, “This is in no way can besmirch his character, his honor and his incredible service to this country over decades.” But, he noted, “I just do not think that children of presidents, of vice presidents during an administration should be out there doing that.”

Senator Amy Klobuchar took a similar position when asked whether she’d be comfortable with the child of her vice president sitting on the board of a foreign company. “I can promise you right now, my own daughter, who’s only 24, does not sit on the board of a foreign company,” she said, also on CNN. “But that is not the issue. The issue here is what the president is doing.”

Much of the rest of field has largely dodged the question. Senator Elizabeth Warren initially said she didn’t know when asked whether her ethics plan would prevent a top official’s child from getting a job with a foreign company. Since then, she’s pivoted back to Mr. Trump when asked similar questions. And Senator Kamala Harris, when asked about the issue, has taken to simply saying: “Leave Joe Biden alone.”

FYI: This was posted the same day that Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman were indicted.

Overly Determined Stalker

Posted by takyon on Friday October 11 2019, @03:20PM (#4662)
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Career & Education

Stalker 'found Japanese singer through reflection in her eyes'

A Japanese man accused of stalking and sexually assaulting a young pop star told police he located her through the reflection in her eyes in a picture, according to local media reports.

The man said he had identified a train station reflected in the singer's eyes in a selfie she posted online.

The 26-year-old then waited at the station until he saw his victim and followed her to her home, police said.

[...] The suspect told police that after zooming in on the image of her eyes, he used Google Street View to identify the station.

He also said he had studied videos the woman shot in her apartment, looking at details such as the placement of curtains and the direction of natural light coming through the window to try to determine exactly which floor she lived on, reports said.

Blame the 30+ megapixel phone cameras.

#CNNHeroes #Inspirational