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What to Do With LOP-G or Another Future Space Station?

Posted by takyon on Thursday August 16 2018, @09:37PM (#3463)
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Science

Expanding on this comment.

What should be done with the Lunar Orbital Platform-Gateway (LOP-G) or another brand-new low-Earth orbit space station? Alternatively, can the ISS be rebuilt piece-by-piece to allay concerns about aging components? Or should it be burnt in the atmosphere or split up to form new stations?

LOP-G is a boondoggle by design, but it could be built much more cheaply using Falcon Heavy launches, and it could be given some worthwhile missions and experiments. Here are a few ideas:

Space telescopes

Space telescopes could be assembled and repaired at a space station. JWST's cost overruns and delays are going to cast a shadow over future flagship space telescopes. One way to reduce costs massively while continuing to provide larger apertures would be to assemble a telescope in orbit. In the future, robots or automated docking systems ought to be able to accomplish this, but if you already have humans staying at a space station, why not have them service telescopes while they're there?

JWST has to ride a single rocket into space and follow a number of steps for successful deployment. A telescope built at a space station could accept many components flown on multiple Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy, BFR, New Glenn, or Vulcan rockets. If one rocket explodes, the loss is relatively minor. The size of a space telescope flown on a single rocket is limited by the width and volume of the payload fairing. JWST can unfold its mirror segments to fit a greater aperture into the payload fairing, but this mechanical mechanism could fail, and if it does, it would render the telescope completely inoperable. The planned JWST successor LUVOIR has different configurations depending on whether or not SLS (8.4-10 meters) or BFR (9 meters) will be available to fly the telescope. While you could fly as many smaller mirror segments as you wanted to if you kept adding new launches to your manifest, the largest mirror segments ever cast are coincidentally 8.4 meters in diameter:

There is a technological limit for primary mirrors made of a single rigid piece of glass. Such non-segmented, or monolithic mirrors can not be constructed larger than about eight meters in diameter. The largest monolithic mirror in use are currently the two primary mirrors of the Large Binocular Telescope, each with a diameter of 8.4 meters. The use of segmented mirrors is therefore a key component for large-aperture telescopes. Using a monolithic mirror much larger than 5 meters is prohibitively expensive due to the cost of both the mirror, and the massive structure needed to support it. A mirror beyond that size would also sag slightly under its own weight as the telescope was rotated to different positions, changing the precision shape of the surface. Segments are also easier to fabricate, transport, install, and maintain over very large monolithic mirrors.

Segmented mirrors do have the drawback that each segment may require some precise asymmetrical shape, and rely on a complicated computer-controlled mounting system. All of the segments also cause diffraction effects in the final image.

Finally, JWST requires lots of testing and retesting in order to ensure that the hundreds of potential failures that could kill the mission do not occur. With a space-assembled telescope, you could launch without doing nearly as much testing, since you would have humans capable of fixing most of the problems that could happen, multiple launches instead of a single launch, and you could more readily tolerate the vibrations shaking up each component of the telescope, since it is not assembled and ready to deploy yet. You could also pack the payload fairing with padding that could be removed by the astronauts.

While there could be space telescopes operating directly at the site of the space station (such as in lunar orbit alongside the LOP-G) or close nearby (loosely tethered to the station or in a different but easy-to-reach orbit), we could also use orbital (re)fueling to send completed space telescopes to their final destinations. Since most of the energy expenditure comes from entering or leaving Earth orbit, this could end up being very efficient.

By exploiting all of these advantages, we could assemble space telescopes that dwarf the JWST and LUVOIR in size and capabilities.

Artificial gravity modules

We already know that prolonged exposure to microgravity is bad news for astronauts, but at least one of our ACs is very skeptical of the health effects of lunar or Martian gravity on the human body. What better way to test this than in a rotating artificial gravity module? While it is not directly comparable to the gravity of a planetoid, and you can experience a difference in acceleration between your head and toes, it could be used for exercise, sleep, animal and plant experiments, etc.

The lower the gravity you want to simulate, the smaller and slower the module can be. So simulating 0.165g or 0.376g will be cheaper than 1g anyway.

The Nautilus-X was a proposed spacecraft that would have used a centrifuge to provide artificial gravity. A demonstration module for the ISS would have cost only an estimated $83 million to $143 million, not counting launch costs.

Inflatable modules

Speaking of modules, Nautilus-X planned to make extensive use of Bigelow Aerospace's inflatable modules. Inflatable modules are a partially-proven concept, in that we actually managed to get one version, the Bigelow Expandable Activity Module, to the ISS. Plans to remove it have been delayed as it provides useful storage space and appears to resist radiation and micrometeorites as well as other parts of the ISS.

The B330 and BA 2100 modules would provide a much greater volume for a space station, with the BA 2100 providing more than double the current volume of the ISS inside of a single module. As for protection:

  • Some designs offer higher resistance to space debris. For example, the B330 provides ballistic protection superior to traditional aluminum shell designs.
  • Some designs provide higher levels of shielding against radiation. For example, the B330 provides radiation protection equivalent to or better than the International Space Station, "and substantially reduces the dangerous impact of secondary radiation."

I imagine that if you had further concerns about module durability, you could inflate it and then install plates or other coverings on the outside to provide additional layers of protection from radiation and micrometeorites.

Propellant depot

I haven't done the math™ on this one at all, but perhaps this could make sense, particularly in the LOP-G scenario. If you want LOP-G to be more than a useless ISS clone, it would make sense to have the station facilitate trips to the surface, by storing propellant, refueling craft that reach the station, or delivering it to the surface for use by people who are already there. How would it get there? A BFR tanker would be a good choice. Where would it come from? Presumably from Earth or sources of water on the Moon itself, if the economics work out.

Perhaps the U.S. could sell China some propellant to help them build their Moon base.

Depending on the orbit, LOP-G could also facilitate communications for anybody or anything on the far side of the Moon.

In our America love wins

Posted by turgid on Wednesday August 15 2018, @09:50PM (#3460)
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/dev/random

Mrs Turgid and I went for a holiday in the USA this year. I've never been before, but she has, since she has an aunt who lives in Portland, Oregon.

Since we were going to the USA, I decided that we really must visit the Kennedy Space Center in Florida on the way, so we flew from London to Orlando via Dublin. The most stressful part of the trip was Dublin airport. You have to collect your boarding pass for the second leg of the flight in the airport and they're pretty laid back at the desk in spite of schedules and deadlines. Then you have to go through US immigration. That wouldn't be so bad if you hadn't waited an age to get your boarding pass.

I was lucky and got selected for extra security. Oh boy, did I get security. Luckily the fellow doing it was very jolly and Mrs Turgid remarked that he was now on more intimate terms with me than she was.

The immigration officer was very efficient and being an idiot and tired and flustered I forgot what day I was leaving the USA which did not impress him very much. When going to the USA the immigration officers are mostly interested in how and when you will be leaving the USA. Remember that to make your immigration experience as painless and quick as possible.

On the flight, as we landed I got an interesting earworm, "Living With a Hernia" by Weird Al. The first song on the radio in the taxi on the way from the airport to the hotel in Orlando was "Living In America!" Spooky?

The Kennedy Space Center was the coolest thing I have ever seen and I saw two alligators. We had lunch with an astronaut! That was a very pleasant surprise that Mrs Turgid had arranged. We saw space shuttle Atlantis and we did weep. We also had a long bus tour of the site, including many launch pads. We saw the VAB and pads 39A and 39B. I also noticed a building which said on the side "Home of the X37-B." The tour guide didn't mention that.

After the tours we wandered round until we saw the Saturn V. Now I can die a happy man.

After three nights in Orlando (which was very hot and humid, but with plentiful and cheap food) we went via Atlanta to Portland, Oregon to stay with auntie and her husband. Oregon, and the Pacific Northwest, is beautiful. On the plane we saw Mount Hood, Mt Ranier and Mt St Helens.

Portland is a lovely place, and Oregon is full of Pentiums such as Willamette, Yamhill, Deschutes, you name it. They also make lots of very excellent wine and beer. There are lagers, wheat beers, amber ales, stouts, porters... and they all taste of something good. The food's great too. I made the mistake of ordering side orders in the pub. There was enough to feed a family of four.

We went to the beach at Lincoln City for a few nights. I put my feet in the Pacific Ocean and it was cold (Scotland cold).

On the way back from Lincoln City we stopped at the Evergreen Aviation and Space Museum where I saw the Spruce Goose, an SR-71B, X-15, Mercury, Gemini, Apollo 16, V1, V2, Goddard's rocket, all kinds of weird helicopters...

We drove along the Columbia river, went to Timberline Lodge on Mt Hood, went to Multnomah Falls, went into Washington State etc.

Mrs Turgid and I also went to Seattle by train for a couple of nights. I know people like to berate American trains, but by modern British standards they are sheer luxury.

Seattle is pretty cool. We stayed in a hotel near the Space Needle and very close by was a pub called the Teku Tavern which had hundreds of kinds of excellent beers and ciders. We went on a tour about the old town called Beneath the Streets. We also found a really cool shop called Utilikilts which is a gentlemen's outfitters specialising in kilts for the physically active and strident working man. Unfortunately I did not have enough money left to buy a Utilikilt, having just bought a laptop. They don't seem to have invented the Buiness Kilt yet. I think I might send them an email.

We didn't go up the Space Needle, but we went up the Smith Tower, which made me seasick and I had to take a pint of ale to steady my nerves.

There was also a long-haired dude wearing a bandana driving a Pontiac Firebird with the roof off, with tiger skin seat covers and loud music.

Conclusion: American beer is good, American food is not too bad if you choose wisely, the weather's hot, sometimes hot and humid, and no one tried to shoot me. And they went to the Moon, in peace, for all mankind.

As they say in Portland, Oregon, "In our America love wins."

Long-Lost Marilyn Monroe Nude Scene Remains Lost

Posted by takyon on Wednesday August 15 2018, @12:10PM (#3459)
6 Comments
/dev/random

A Long-Lost Marilyn Monroe Nude Scene Was Just Discovered

It’s taken decades, but researchers have finally found Marilyn Monroe‘s long-lost nude scene from the 1961 film The Misfits. [...] In the lost scene, Monroe and Clark Gable kiss, and he leaves. Then, things get particularly racy when Monroe drops the bedsheet covering her naked body. According to Deadline, this scene is historic: if left in the film, it would have been the first nude scene by an American actress in a major motion picture. Director John Huston later cut the nude scene because he believed that it wasn’t necessary to the story, but Frank Taylor saved the footage because of its importance (or maybe for, uh, personal reasons).

[...] Taylor has not yet decided what to do with the lost footage, so don’t expect Monroe’s nude scene to end up on YouTube any time soon.

Submit it to the Library of Sexual Congress for "preservation" or GTFO.

N-Tape

Posted by takyon on Tuesday August 14 2018, @08:27PM (#3454)
8 Comments
Business

New tape shows Trump campaign aides discussing possibility of N-word tape

The use of "dog" to describe Manigault Newman, who was the highest ranking African-American in Trump's White House during her tenure, did little to dampen the renewed allegations of racism against the President.

Some of his top aides rushed to defend him, claiming they'd never witnessed him use racist language in their interactions.

"I've been around @realDonaldTrump publicly & privately for 25yrs. I've NEVER ONCE - EVER - have heard him say the disgusting & terrible word that the Opportunistic Wacky Omarosa claims," wrote Dan Scavino, Trump's longtime social media director.

Breakthrough: Trump close to calling his critics "bitch-ni**as".

Disney's Big Gay Backlash

Posted by takyon on Monday August 13 2018, @09:57PM (#3451)
38 Comments
Business

Jack Whitehall faces backlash as Disney's 'first gay man'

Jack Whitehall has received backlash online after news broke that he'd been cast as Disney's first major gay character in Jungle Cruise.

The comedian wrote that he was "honoured" to be a part of the 2019 film, and it was later reported that he would be playing an openly gay man.

The news has led some people to ask why a gay actor wasn't cast for the role.

"Could they seriously not pick someone actually gay?" one person tweeted.

Others have argued that hiring gay actors to exclusively play gay roles is "typecasting".

15 years ago, or maybe last year, this headline would have had a very different meaning. But it's 2018.

Related: ScarJo Cast as a Transgender Man, Outrage Ensues

C-Ville Anniversary

Posted by takyon on Sunday August 12 2018, @06:31AM (#3447)
11 Comments
Business

Charlottesville remembered: 'A battle for the soul of America'

It could only happen in the birthplace of Christian Weston Chandler.

Mojo Ryzen

Posted by turgid on Saturday August 11 2018, @02:53PM (#3446)
6 Comments
Hardware

I bought a laptop with an AMD Ryzen 7 2700U CPU incorporating a Vega 10 GPU, an Acer Swift 3. It has 8GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD. Unfortunately the RAM is not upgradable but when the SSD breaks I will be able to remove it and replace it with spinning rust.

I've got Slackware-current running on it with kernel 4.17.14. It came with Windows 10 but that has been removed. In fact I managed to set it up without ever booting into Windows. When you power it up, you must press F2 to get into the BIOS. Obviously, you can avoid ever starting Windows if you press F2 quickly enough on first power up.

I made a USB boot stick for installing Slackware-current, It's actually not that hard. I began by using Alien Bob's local Slackware mirror script on my main PC to get the latest Slackware-current and to create the installation DVD .iso image. It downloaded many gigabytes of data, so took quite a while even on my reasonable (80Mbit) Internet connection.

I found some useful instructions and some boot files for making a Slackware UEFI USB boot stick. Short story: use gdisk to partition the stick with two partitions, the first being 100M in size, the second being the rest of the stick. The first has to has a type of 0xEF00 and the second 0x8300. Then you put a vfat filesystem on the first. It tells you to put an ext4 FS on the second but I'm not sure that's necessary. You need to create a directory in the first partition called EFI and under it a subdirectory called something like Slackware. Copy the files as directed at the above link into the EFI/Slackware subdir and sync the disks. You can also have a subdir called Boot which the firmware recognises specially as a default, and there is a naming convention for the files that go in there. Google is your friend.

When making a USB boot stick for a pre-UEFI system you need to run isohybrid on the .iso installation image. I did that here too. (Is this necessary for UEFI? It didn't do any harm.) dd the slackware-current .iso into the second partition of the USB stick.

Plug the stick into the laptop and power cycle, pressing F2 quickly to avoid booting any existing OS.

The firmware (BIOS) is UEFI and has Secure Boot. Before you can tell it to boot something other than Windows, you have to set a master password in the firmware. When you have done that you can change the priority of the boot devices and add the new boot loaders to the menu, after deleting the existing Windows ones.

Make sure that the USB stick is the first preference of boot device in the UEFI menus and remove the hard disk if possible so you can't accidentally boot Windows.

Reboot the machine, and hit F12 for a boot menu. Hopefully, the USB stick should be there. Select it and the familiar Slackware installation should start.

At this point you can make a backup of your Windows image in case you ever need to take the machine back for a warranty repair or sell it on to someone who needs Windows. I backed up my pristine uninstalled Windows image using dd from the command line and dumping the data onto an external USB hard disk. Piped through gzip the 256GB disk image compressed down to about 12GB. (There was a stuck pixel on the screen and I was glad I did this since I had to take it back to the store for a replacement).

Installing Slackware-current was very simple. I partitioned the SSD with gdisk to have three partitions, a 100MB UEFI boot partition (vfat), a Linux swap partition (8GB) and a Linux partition (the rest of the disk ext4). The installer said "Slackware 14.1" but that's because of the root disk image on the boot disk. I installed the complete distribution and rebooted. It worked, with eight penguins at the top of the screen.

When I say "it worked" it did, keyboard, touchpad and built-in WiFi. The kernel (4.14.56) that came with Slackware-current wasn't new enough to see the Vega GPU, so X would not run.

I downloaded the latest (at the time) stable kernel (4.17.8) and did a "make oldconfig" using the kernel configuration file from the slackware-current that I had installed. There were hundreds of new options and most of them were mysterious or irrelevant, so I just selected things as modules where I was unsure. I selected the support for the new AMD GPUs. Through poking around in /sys I noted that the touchpad was an Elan something and the WiFi chip was an Atheros 10k (driver ath10k_pci). I rebuilt the kernel and modules, but the new bzImage in /boot/EFI/Slackware and put a new entry in /boot/EFI/Slackware/elilo.conf for it and did a make modules_install. On rebooting the machine, I hit TAB to get the elilo menu and selected my new kernel. I was then able to get X up and running with a UK keyboard and the touchpad.

It turns out that to do a middle button click on the touchpad you have to put the tips of three fingers down and then push down to click. It takes a bit of practise...

By the way, I've been using it for three weeks and it's never swapped yet. It also has a fingerprint reader. I believe they are useless and will not even try to get it working.

There are a couple of problems, though. It intermittently hangs on boot when the kernel tries to switch from UEFI VGA to the AMD GPU driver (the open source one) and the machine locked up hard when watching a video in Palemoon. It wasn't on the network so I couldn't try to ssh. I had to power cycle it.

Next we shall see how SETI@Home runs on it.

World's Top Empathy Researcher is a Big Bully

Posted by takyon on Saturday August 11 2018, @02:45AM (#3445)
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Career & Education

She’s the world’s top empathy researcher. But colleagues say she bullied and intimidated them

Tania Singer, a celebrated neuroscientist and director at the Max Planck Institute for Human Cognitive and Brain Sciences in Leipzig, Germany, is known as one of the world’s foremost experts on empathy. In her research, she has sought to demonstrate that meditation can make people more kind and caring. The title of a profile of Singer written by this reporter in 2013 summed up her public image: Concentrating on Kindness.

But inside her lab, it was a very different story, eight former and current colleagues say in interviews with Science. The researchers, all but one of whom insisted on remaining anonymous because they feared for their careers, describe a group gripped by fear of their boss. “Whenever anyone had a meeting with her there was at least an even chance they would come out in tears,” one colleague says.

Singer, one of the most high-profile female researchers in the Max Planck Society (MPG), sometimes made harsh comments to women who became pregnant, multiple lab members told Science. “People were terrified. They were really, really afraid of telling her about their pregnancies,” one former colleague says. “For her, having a baby was basically you being irresponsible and letting down the team,” says another, who became a mother while working in Singer’s department.

[...] In a plan presented to the researchers on 25 July, MPG said it would separate Singer from her current colleagues and allow her to set up a new, smaller research group in Berlin for 2 to 3 years while the postdocs and Ph.D. students in Leipzig finish their projects and move on. (The Leipzig group, which once numbered more than 20 scientists, has dwindled to just five.) She would then return to her lab.

“It appears the Max Planck Society decided it would rather sacrifice another generation of students than risk a scandal,” says one former colleague. Asked how MPG would ensure that future students are treated better, a spokesperson says details of the plan are still being discussed.

[...] [Colleagues] say working with Singer was always difficult. She wanted to be in control of even the most minute research details but was often not available to discuss them. In-person meetings could quickly turn into a nightmare, one colleague says: “She gets extremely emotional and when that turns dark it is terrifying.” Another co-worker describes what happened after he told Singer some people in her group were unhappy: “She was very hurt by this and started crying and screaming,” he says. “It escalated to the extent that she left the room and went door to door in the institute in our department, crying, yelling to the people in the room ‘Are you happy here?’ When she came back, she said: ‘I just asked and everyone said they’re happy so it’s obviously you that’s the problem.’” (A colleague who says he was present corroborates the story.)

Almost every current or former lab member brought up Singer’s treatment of pregnant women; the issue was also on a list of grievances, shared with Science, that lab members say they drew up after a meeting with the scientific advisory board in February 2017 to record what was said. “Pregnancy and parental leave are received badly and denied/turned into accusations,” the notes say.

In Spite of the Haters, Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop Worth $250m

Posted by takyon on Thursday August 09 2018, @08:35PM (#3443)
8 Comments
Business

How Goop's Haters Made Gwyneth Paltrow's Company Worth $250 Million: Inside the growth of the most controversial brand in the wellness industry. (archive)

On a Monday morning in November, students at Harvard Business School convened in their classroom to find Gwyneth Paltrow. She was sitting at one of their desks, fitting in not at all, using her phone, as they took their seats along with guests they brought to class that day — wives, mothers, boyfriends. Each seat filled, and some guests had to stand along the back wall and sit on the steps. The class was called the Business of Entertainment, Media and Sports. The students were there to interrogate Paltrow about Goop, her lifestyle-and-wellness e-commerce business, and to learn how to create a "sustainable competitive advantage," according to the class catalog.

She moved to the teacher's desk, where she sat down and crossed her legs. She talked about why she started the business, how she only ever wanted to be someone who recommended things. When she was in Italy, on the set of "The Talented Mr. Ripley," she'd ask someone on the crew about, say, where the best gelato was. When she was in London, on the set of "Shakespeare in Love," she asked a crew member where to find the best coffee; in Paris, she asked an extra where to find the best bikini wax; in Berlin, the massage you can't miss. She wasn't just curious. She was planning this the whole time. The first iteration of the company was only these lists — where to go and what to buy once you get there — via a newsletter she emailed out of her kitchen, the first one with recipes for turkey ragù and banana-nut muffins. One evening, at a party in London, one of the newsletter's recipients, a venture capitalist named Juliet de Baubigny, told her, "I love what you're doing with Goop." G.P., as she is called by nearly everyone in her employ, didn't even know what a venture capitalist was. She was using off-the-shelf newsletter software. But De Baubigny became a "godmother" to Paltrow, she said. She encouraged her vision and "gave permission" to start thinking about how to monetize it.

[...] G.P. didn't want to go broad. She wanted you to have what she had: the $795 G. Label trench coat and the $1,505 Betony Vernon S&M chain set. Why mass-market a lifestyle that lives in definitional opposition to the mass market? Goop's ethic was this: that having beautiful things sometimes costs money; finding beautiful things was sometimes a result of an immense privilege; but a lack of that privilege didn't mean you shouldn't have those things. Besides, just because some people cannot afford it doesn't mean that no one can and that no one should want it. If this bothered anyone, well, the newsletter content was free, and so were the recipes for turkey ragù and banana-nut muffins.

[...] A gynecologist and obstetrician in San Francisco named Jen Gunter, who also writes a column on reproductive health for The Times, has criticized Goop in about 30 blog posts on her website since 2015. A post she wrote last May — an open letter that she signed on behalf of "Science" — generated more than 800,000 page views. She was angry about all the bad advice she had seen from Goop in the last few years. She was angry that her own patients were worried they'd given themselves breast cancer by wearing underwire bras, thanks to an article by an osteopath who cited a much-debunked book published in 1995. Gunter cited many of Goop's greatest hits: "Tampons are not vaginal death sticks, vegetables with lectins are not killing us, vaginas don't need steaming, Epstein Barr virus (E.B.V.) does not cause every thyroid disease and for [expletive] sake no one needs to know their latex farmer; what they need to know is that the only thing between them and H.I.V. or gonorrhea is a few millimeters of latex, so glove that [expletive] up."

But something strange happened. Each of these pronouncements set off a series of blog posts and articles and tweets that linked directly to the site, driving up traffic. At Harvard, G.P. called these moments "cultural firestorms." "I can monetize those eyeballs," she told the students. Goop had learned to do a special kind of dark art: to corral the vitriol of the internet and the ever-present shall we call it cultural ambivalence about G.P. herself and turn them into cash. It's never clickbait, she told the class. "It's a cultural firestorm when it's about a woman's vagina." The room was silent. She then cupped her hands around her mouth and yelled, "VAGINA! VAGINA! VAGINA!" as if she were yodeling.

Who would hate on a pseudoscientific goop-peddling succubus with steam-cleaned nether regions (and an egg)?

Previously: NASA Disputes Origins of Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop "Healing Stickers"

Original Submission

Kittenfishing

Posted by Snow on Wednesday August 08 2018, @10:18PM (#3442)
20 Comments
/dev/random

So, the dating world, there is a term - Catfishing. I guess that is the practice of using someone else's photos that are super hot and then basically trolling people. There is apparently a lesser form of this called kittenfishing where you use deceiving photos that are actually you, but are not exactly truthful. Last week, I was kittenfished.

I started chatting with a woman on OKC. She had only two photos (flag #1) of her, and both were from the same angle (flag #2). She looked really cute, so I messaged her. There was a pretty good exchange of messages. She eventually dropped a hint that she might be fat, so I asked for some photos that showed her body.

Now, this is where I feel bad. I'm sure it can be difficult being a fat woman. I asked for photos as nicely as I could - "Hey, so I love your pics, but I notice that you only have two photos that are practically identical to each other. Do you have any photos that show your body that you would be able to share?"

To her credit, she did share actual photos that showed a rather large woman. I've dated a larger women in the past who I got along with well, but I wasn't attracted to her and it didn't work out. I will not do that again.

So, anyways, she posts actual pictures that show her body. I said thank you, and complimented her dress. The next day, I sent a message saying that I didn't think it would work out because I felt that I had been deceived and that deception is not a good way to start a relationship.

She didn't take that well. Here are the last two messages of the exchange:

ME> So I've had some time to think and I'm sorry, but I don't think that it would work out. I really enjoyed our conversations, but ultimately I feel like I was misled.

> I Understand that everyone cherry picks some of their best photos to post to dating websites, but I believe that the photos should reflect the person that you will be meeting. Starting a relationship on deception is not a good way to begin.

> I'm sorry things had to go this way and I hope you eventually find what you are looking for.

>Take care,

>-- Snow

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HER> I've been thinking about this as well. We would not have progressed past being frientds ...as sitting in Church on a Sunday knowing I was dating a married man would have made me a rather large hypocrite.

>But since you have brought up the subject... You asked 'my story' In it I said... 'Currently I am good enough to fuck but too fat to date.' That should have been a big fucking indicator as to what I might actually look like body wise.

> I have my reasons as to why I don't post body shots. After the 100th message of 'Hey wanna Fuck' I hope you can at least appreciate why...then again maybe you can't...hopefully one day you will. If it's imperative to see my body...fine...If it's not to you liking...fine...there is the door don't let it hit you in the ass on the way out. You are not the first...you damn well won't be the last...and make no mistake on this...the loss is never...EVER...mine

> I wish you all the best in your future endeavors...

> So Long Boyo...

> HerName

** She disabled her account **

I feel pretty bad. I'm sure it's tough being a fat woman doing online dating. I was caught between a rock and a hard place. I didn't find her body attractive at all and I'm not going to go on a date with someone I'm not somewhat excited about. I did feel mislead and I was hoping that by telling her that, she would realize that deception up front leads to disappointment later. Maybe I should have just said 'Sorry, this isn't going to work out' and left it at that. I wanted to call her out on the photos though.

Anyways, I hope I didn't break this poor woman who obviously had body issues and had had a rough time dating. I don't feel good about how that one ended. I honestly don't know if I'm the asshole in this situation or not, so I'm here asking SN.

So, SN... Am I the asshole here? Please place your judgement below.