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posted by NCommander on Monday October 09 2017, @12:04PM   Printer-friendly [Skip to comment(s)]
from the always-something-new dept.

We've discovered over the weekend that soylentnews.org was failing to resolve with some DNSSEC enabled resolvers. After debugging and manually checking our setup, the problem appears to be occurring due to an issue with the Linode DNS servers when accessed over IPv6. As such, some users may experience slow waiting times due to these DNS issues. I have filed a ticket with Linode about this, and will keep you guys up to date.

73 de NCommander

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As promised, here's the round-table discussion post that I said on Wednesday was coming. We have a long history at SoylentNews of listening and responding to our community; I genuinely hope that never changes. I also recognize that I may have ruffled some feathers in the last few weeks with original content postings so here's the best place to get this all out.

I am mindful of the community's support and goodwill; I don't want to squander any of it. Yes, there are times where my hand may be forced (e.g., DCMA takedowns). Still, I'm always a bit hesitant whenever I post on the main site for anything that isn't site update news or similar. I may be the de facto site leader, but I want my submissions to be treated like anyone else's — I want no favoritism. The editorial team does review my stories and signs off before they go live (unless it's an "emergency" situation such as the last time we blew up the site). However, as the saying goes, the buck stops with me.

SoylentNews accepts original content. I'm also aware that I've probably submitted the most original content so far (See "Previously", below for some examples). I'm grateful for the community's apparent acceptance of my submissions and the positive responses to them. What I don't know is if there is an undercurrent of displeasure with these. Maybe everyone thinks these are all fine. Then again, maybe somebody has an issue with them. Rather than assume anything, let's get it all out in the open.

What I want to cover in this round-table discussion is original content and having images in posts as well as topics such as yesterday's Live Show on Improving Your Security -- Wednesday June 3rd, 2020.

So, contributors and commenters to SoylentNews, get that Reply button hot and let me hear your feedback. As usual, either a member of staff or I will respond to your comments below,

73 de NCommander

Previously:
(2020-06-03) Live Show on Improving Your Security -- Wednesday June 3rd, 2020
(2020-05-24) Retrotech: The Novell NetWare Experience
(2020-05-14) Exploring Windows for Workgroups 3.11 - Early 90s Networking
(2020-05-10) Examining Windows 1.0 HELLO.C - 35 Years of Backwards Compatibility
(2020-05-15) Meta: Having a Chat about SoylentNews' Internet Relay Chat
(2018-10-25) My Time as an ICANN Fellow
(2017-10-09) soylentnews.org experiencing DNSSEC issues
(2017-04-20) Soylentnews.org is Moving to Gentoo...
(2017-04-17) SN Security Updates: CAA, LogJam, HTTP Method Disable, and 3DES
(2017-03-13) Xenix 2.2.3c Restoration: Xrossing The X (Part 4)

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @12:35PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @12:35PM (#579250)

    I suspect I'm connecting over IPv4 because I don't see any delays. However reading this I got the question how I would find out (other than wasting the time of the local sysadmins :-)).

    Anyway, thanks for the information.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @01:18PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @01:18PM (#579258)

      netstat, tcpdump, wireshark, etc...

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @01:41PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @01:41PM (#579264)

        If I understand correctly, I'd have to run netstat at the very exact point when the browser makes the connection; something that should not be easy to do.

        Sure, I could bring my own device and run tcpdump/wireshark on that; but I'm not sure the admins would like that ;-)

        Hmmm … thinking about it, one way would be to run the browser under ptrace and sift through the system calls; however I'd hope there's a simpler way.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @01:40PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @01:40PM (#579263)

      If you're connecting to the site over Tor, it's over IPv4.
      At least for now, Tor is IPv4-only. (Though I don't know the reason for that.)

      Wireshark is probably your best bet to sniff traffic specifically to/from soylentnews.org to know for sure.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @02:03PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @02:03PM (#579266)

        Sites such as http://whatsmyip.net/ [whatsmyip.net] , https://whatsmyip.com/ [whatsmyip.com] , http://whatismyipaddress.com/ [whatismyipaddress.com] will tell the IP address you're connecting from. Using tor, I've seen some exit nodes on IPv6.

        • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Monday October 09 2017, @04:39PM (1 child)

          by isostatic (365) on Monday October 09 2017, @04:39PM (#579305) Journal

          I use https://ipinfo.io/, [ipinfo.io] which is fairly lightweight as a webpage, and is curlable from the commandline as a JSON output.

          • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @07:34PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @07:34PM (#579376)

            That only shows my legacy IPv4 address and not my real one.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @02:51PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @02:51PM (#579282)

      The answers you're getting are wrong. Well, I guess they're answering your question, but your question is wrong.

      The question isn't how you are connecting to the site; the question is how the DNS resolver you're using connects to the Linode DNS servers. And it's not so easy to ascertain that.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by NCommander on Monday October 09 2017, @05:28PM

      by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <mcasadevall@soylentnews.org> on Monday October 09 2017, @05:28PM (#579322) Homepage Journal

      It's the DNS servers that are having issues, not soylentnews.org. Due to the way DNS works, it depends how your local resolver is talking to nsX.linode.com.

      --
      Still always moving
  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Knowledge Troll on Monday October 09 2017, @02:33PM (1 child)

    by Knowledge Troll (5948) on Monday October 09 2017, @02:33PM (#579276) Homepage Journal

    "73 de" is a traditional HAM radio sign off. The "73" means "goodbye" and "de" is "from."

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by KiloByte on Monday October 09 2017, @11:29PM (1 child)

    by KiloByte (375) on Monday October 09 2017, @11:29PM (#579499)

    Meanwhile the folks at Slashdot have no DNSSEC over IPv6 issues, at all. They've taken a two-pronged approach to make sure this is not a problem.

    They're also avoiding Unicode issues this way.

    --
    Ceterum censeo systemd esse delendam.
    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @01:55AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @01:55AM (#579550)

      The two prongs, I take it, being avoidance of IPv6 and avoidance of DNSSEC?

  • (Score: 2) by rylyeh on Tuesday October 10 2017, @01:58AM

    by rylyeh (6726) <kadathNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Tuesday October 10 2017, @01:58AM (#579552)

    Yes! I noticed speeds were a bit slow for that past day or two - but reloads are happening much faster now - for me!
    Thanks for raising the ticket so quickly, TMB!

    --
    "a vast crenulate shell wherein rode the grey and awful form of primal Nodens, Lord of the Great Abyss."
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 29 2017, @05:25AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 29 2017, @05:25AM (#588938)

    In the style of registered user shouting "I bet M$ will go bankrupt in 2 years!". Now, should the unexpected happen and M$ not dissolve in the shortish time period mentioned, the bet would be lost to SN donations. And if you win, good for you. To us all in this example.

    This way people get to run their mouths and show us their incredible 1337 future predicting skills. Yeah, it's basically (honor based?) donation.

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