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posted by on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:13AM   Printer-friendly
from the there-go-most-of-our-nines dept.

As you're probably aware we experienced some unplanned downtime today. It has been claimed it was entirely the fault of Russian Hackers. They invaded fluorine and caused the database updating code in rehash to not update the database this last site update. Which is just as well, I suppose, since two of the SQL statements refuse to complete even when run manually. That I'm going to have to chalk up to a misconfigured ndbd on helium and neon.

tl;dr The long and short of it is, we'll be fine until we can get those updates into the database, but it is going to mean more downtime this weekend.

~TMB

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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:19AM (31 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:19AM (#634591)

    We're currently dealing with unexpected but extremely necessary db maintenance.

    Shit yeah, SN went tits up!

    Fuck you fucking fuckers.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:22AM (8 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:22AM (#634594) Homepage Journal

      Nope, that was intentional downtime. Just unplanned.

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      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:26AM (7 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:26AM (#634600)

        When should we expect the announcement of intentional unplanned shuttering of the site due to insolvency because you stole all the money and flew away.

        • (Score: 4, Touché) by bob_super on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:30AM (2 children)

          by bob_super (1357) on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:30AM (#634604)

          How far can you actually run with $455, these days?

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday February 08 2018, @02:07AM (1 child)

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday February 08 2018, @02:07AM (#634629) Homepage Journal

            Oh that's not hard unless you get it in nickles or something.

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            • (Score: 5, Funny) by bob_super on Thursday February 08 2018, @02:15AM

              by bob_super (1357) on Thursday February 08 2018, @02:15AM (#634633)

              I was afraid it would be in cryptocoin, which would cause you to have to switch every other mile between the Rolls and the used bicycle.

        • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Thursday February 08 2018, @04:32AM (3 children)

          by captain normal (2205) on Thursday February 08 2018, @04:32AM (#634671)

          What money??

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          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday February 08 2018, @04:49AM (2 children)

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday February 08 2018, @04:49AM (#634677) Homepage Journal

            I know, right? At any given time we could probably bankrupt ourselves by taking the staff out for a night of drinking. Not even a wild night of it. Just take everyone to a bar, drink until closing time, and be broke in the morning.

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            My rights don't end where your fear begins.
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 08 2018, @07:23AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 08 2018, @07:23AM (#634767)

              You're not broke, you still got a boat. Us people with real money and a career just don't call your boat liquid assets - because liquid would mix with the water and not float, unless it's oil. As long as you're able to get on a boat to get you and the brick to the middle of the lake, you're fine and a winner. Not quite a Tiger Blood type of winner, but something like Chiwawa blood type of winner.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:23AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:23AM (#634598)

      Parent coward makes six figures and trolls SoylentNews 10 minutes a month while snorting cocaine off a man's ass.

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday February 08 2018, @03:01AM (2 children)

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday February 08 2018, @03:01AM (#634650) Journal

        Damn!

        I really wish I could get my trolling down to 10 minutes.

        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DECbot on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:01AM (1 child)

          by DECbot (832) on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:01AM (#634682) Journal

          No kidding. Do you think they shave that man's ass before snorting coke off of it, zig zag around the hair, or just plow straight through it?

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          • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:25PM

            by acid andy (1683) on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:25PM (#634887) Homepage Journal

            Who knows, but I think you left out some missing options. Maybe they clear a path for themselves by pulling out hair with their teeth (you insensitive clod!)...

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    • (Score: 2) by Mykl on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:44AM (10 children)

      by Mykl (1112) on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:44AM (#634614)

      How sad and lonely your life must be to constantly visit a site you hate just to tell them you hate it.

      Do you also constantly visit restaurants you dislike so that you can tell the waiters that you hate their food?

      • (Score: 2) by edIII on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:53AM (5 children)

        by edIII (791) on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:53AM (#634621)

        Nah, it's mostly about TMB given the subject. I can actually see that TMB could upset somebody like that. It's like Howard Stern. The average fan listens 2.5 hours per day. The average hater listens for 4 hours. Both for the same reason. To see what he will say next.

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        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday February 08 2018, @02:22AM (4 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday February 08 2018, @02:22AM (#634637) Homepage Journal

          It's a gift. What'd really blow their minds is figuring out that every one of them who keeps coming back just means the site has grown by one. It's not like they're ever going to win against me. They can't piss me off no matter how hard they try because I haven't cared about other people's opinions of me for a very long time now.

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          My rights don't end where your fear begins.
          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by requerdanos on Thursday February 08 2018, @02:44AM (3 children)

            by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 08 2018, @02:44AM (#634644) Journal

            I haven't cared about other people's opinions of me for a very long time now.

            When I finally got to that point in my life, it was explosively liberating--suddenly I went from wondering how you are going to like me, to wondering whether I am going to like you (but not really worrying about it all that much). Bang! Gone, an unsuspectingly enormous amount of problems I didn't need.

            I congratulate you on living in the same happy place. I highly recommend it.

            • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 08 2018, @03:52AM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 08 2018, @03:52AM (#634662)

              Dear disingenuous shitstain,

              Getting to that point in your life where you don't care about other people's opinions is not liberating unless you have "fuck-you" money. You're familiar with "fuck-you" money because you and I both know you're swimming in it. Without the money - which you so very conveniently neglected to mention because you're a lying shit pile - life becomes unbearable. And it doesn't ever get better. You have to convince people to like you otherwise people don't give you money, and if you can't give a shit about what people think, well then you're fucked for life.

              Do not try to bullshit me, asshole.

              • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday February 08 2018, @04:05AM (1 child)

                by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday February 08 2018, @04:05AM (#634664) Homepage Journal

                Obvious troll is obvious.

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                My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                • (Score: 3, Funny) by requerdanos on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:34PM

                  by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:34PM (#634897) Journal

                  Obvious troll is obvious.

                  Yeah, with the quality of the trolls lately (dull, unentertaining) I almost fondly remember "External Reproductive Organ Ethnic Group! Our age preference skews downward!"

      • (Score: -1) by fakefuck39 on Thursday February 08 2018, @07:33AM (3 children)

        by fakefuck39 (6620) on Thursday February 08 2018, @07:33AM (#634772)

        people like you are actually why I visit. you're very inadequate in both the looks and the iq department, and you know this in the real world where you lurk in the shadows pretending to be busy on your phone and hoping no one hears you breathing. you're hard to see or notice in the real world. get you behind a keyboard though, and you get loud and hilarious, like a kid with a diaper full of shit and jam on his face yelling that someone farted hilarious.

        no retard, I don't visit restaurants I dislike. I clearly state I love this site. I also love comedy shows with retards on stage, large gatherings of losers at whom I can laugh, and you and people like you. you are my personal clowns, and I appreciate greatly this site and the people on it. I love to, a couple of times a week, laugh at the losers. That does involve posting, and telling the losers they're losers, and getting these confused responses back.

        hey sherlock - where did I tell anyone here I hate them? you know what does happen though? ugly beta loser keyboard warriors assume everyone around them hates them. no one hates you fuggo. we just laugh at you, but that's not out of hate - that's out of you being a goofy thing that we don't look at as a real person. shall I axkplain some more?

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by acid andy on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:55PM (2 children)

          by acid andy (1683) on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:55PM (#634915) Homepage Journal

          Wow. You sound like such a happy and well rounded person. Here's the thing - when you actually have to waste energy telling everyone what a successful, totally definitely alpha, six figure earning idol you are and what a loser they are in comparison, then you just ain't got it. Real success, attractiveness and power are effortless and understated. When you've really got it you don't have to mouth off because they just know. Oh, by the way, your communication skills are second to none. I can see they must serve you well in that high flying career.

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          If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
          • (Score: 2) by requerdanos on Thursday February 08 2018, @04:47PM (1 child)

            by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 08 2018, @04:47PM (#635004) Journal

            Real success [is] effortless

            While I acknowledge and support your overall message, I question this bit. I have put in quite a bit of effort, and that seems to be the norm...

            • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:20PM

              by acid andy (1683) on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:20PM (#635036) Homepage Journal

              Aww shucks; you just had to go and ruin it. Should seem effortless then. For some it is effortless but that's often as much down to luck than ability. Either way, the dude tries too hard. If you've got a great dick, you don't need to blab about it. Word soon gets around.

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              If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
    • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Thursday February 08 2018, @04:30AM (4 children)

      by captain normal (2205) on Thursday February 08 2018, @04:30AM (#634670)

      "Fuck you fucking fuckers."....I only know one person who uses that mime. And maybe her brother (an ex-google engineer). So come on cop out.

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      When life isn't going right, go left.
      • (Score: 2) by Aiwendil on Thursday February 08 2018, @08:31AM (3 children)

        by Aiwendil (531) on Thursday February 08 2018, @08:31AM (#634783) Journal

        You only know one person who has seen The Boondock Saints and actually started to paraphrase quotes from it?

        (I highly recommend that movie btw)

    • (Score: 1) by Gault.Drakkor on Thursday February 08 2018, @07:50PM (1 child)

      by Gault.Drakkor (1079) on Thursday February 08 2018, @07:50PM (#635156)

      Ok my initial view is currently: 3, 3 threaded-tos.
      Why am I seeing the grandparent / root post that has -1 score?
      e.g. on this topic I see a -1 troll post and its content.

      I would expect with 3, 3 that I only see posts with score 3+ It seems to occur when a low modded post has high modded replies.
      On topics that have all comments 2 and below I only see "Comment Below Threshold"

      • (Score: 2) by Osamabobama on Friday February 09 2018, @12:19AM

        by Osamabobama (5842) on Friday February 09 2018, @12:19AM (#635305)

        Well, two of the SQL statements refuse to complete even when run manually. That might explain it...

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by krait6 on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:27AM (12 children)

    by krait6 (5170) on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:27AM (#634602)

    There was a link on the front page to the IRC channel during the downtime, and it was nice getting a chance to chat with the people who work on SoylentNews.
    Sometimes little hiccups are also opportunities.
    Maintaining a big site like SoylentNews is a lot of work, and I for one appreciate it.
    Thanks

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:47AM (11 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:47AM (#634618)

      People still use IRC? Huh. I thought everyone uses Discord these days. Which is essentially IRC, but prettified for the web, uses about ten times more memory than an IRC client, and lets the venture capital-backed Discord corporate overlord slurp up everything you say and type but no one cares and everyone uses it anyway because "it's easy, everyone else uses it, and I have nothing to hide." But I digress.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by takyon on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:59AM (1 child)

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:59AM (#634623) Journal

        I think Slack might use 10x the resources of Discord. It's such a slow turd.

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        • (Score: 3, Informative) by Pino P on Thursday February 08 2018, @03:26PM

          by Pino P (4721) on Thursday February 08 2018, @03:26PM (#634951) Journal

          Both the desktop client for Slack and the desktop client for Discord are Electron apps. Electron is like installing a separate copy of Google Chrome that's hardcoded to view one website. It takes just as much RAM as any other Chromium browser, as opposed to the slightly smaller footprint of viewing multiple sites in one web browser or the much smaller footprint of something like Pidgin or HexChat.

          Buy more RAM? Not at these DRAM prices, which have been gradually rising over the past few years, and not with compact laptop motherboards continuing to limit installed RAM to single digit GB.

      • (Score: 1) by krait6 on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:59AM (7 children)

        by krait6 (5170) on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:59AM (#634624)

        People still use IRC? Huh. I thought everyone uses Discord these days.

        Mostly true ... but Discord also has channels being "raided" regularly by trolls, and there are a grand total of 12 admins and moderators working for Discord "overlooking" (as in ... not) millions users on around 12,000 servers. It's ... kind of a free-for-all.
        https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=18/01/30/1824206 [soylentnews.org]

        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday February 08 2018, @02:16AM (6 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday February 08 2018, @02:16AM (#634635) Homepage Journal

          Yeah, we solved that by welcoming the trolls with open arms in IRC. They even eventually talked me into coming on staff. You can spout feminist stuff all day, you can mock feminists by shitposting feminist stuff all day, you can even do like EF and show everyone a picture of your dong. Losers, bastards, and freaks of all kinds are shown in and handed a beverage.

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          • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:02AM (1 child)

            by captain normal (2205) on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:02AM (#634683)

            And...you like this?? Why??

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            • (Score: 4, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:47AM

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:47AM (#634703) Homepage Journal

              It's liberating when you realize offense is never given but always taken. You decide if you want to be offended or not; nobody else. Once you figure that out, trolling is at worst boring. Often it's hilarious.

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              My rights don't end where your fear begins.
          • (Score: 2, Funny) by DECbot on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:15AM (3 children)

            by DECbot (832) on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:15AM (#634687) Journal

            you can even do like EF and show everyone a picture of your dong.

            I tried this once in IRC, but I had problems making an accurate representation. The '=' has the bars too close together and I am constantly hitting the end of the line and forced to line wrap before the length is right.

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            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:48AM

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:48AM (#634704) Homepage Journal

              Ahhh, a burden I know all too well. Try for humility instead of accuracy. It's kinder to those less fortunate.

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              My rights don't end where your fear begins.
            • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 08 2018, @10:53AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 08 2018, @10:53AM (#634815)

              Just depict is as seen from the Moon.

              • (Score: 2, Funny) by DECbot on Thursday February 08 2018, @03:26PM

                by DECbot (832) on Thursday February 08 2018, @03:26PM (#634950) Journal

                sure thing.
                 
                As viewed from the moon:
                 
                Earth --> O8==D <-- penis
                 
                (images are roughly to scale)

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      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday February 08 2018, @03:09AM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday February 08 2018, @03:09AM (#634654) Journal

        Hell yes people still use IRC. IRC : Discord :: dwm : Gnome, more or less, though that's a bit of a slander on Discord in that it does actually perform its functions reasonably well without eighty hojillion kludgey plugins...

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:36AM (6 children)

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:36AM (#634696) Homepage Journal

    I don't know if we know it was Russia who broke into SoylentNews. It could be Russia, it could be a lot of people. It could be a lady hacker with very perky tits, sitting on her bed and thinking about me. About how to SILENCE me. Because she put a Spam Mod on one of my tweets. And maybe hid the Alert that goes out to the administrators. So they wouldn't check, is that Spam (I've never, ever seen Spam in the tweets here). Down goes my Karma, very quickly, as quick as.....somebody that goes down very fast. My Karma goes down enough, my tweets will be hidden. My Journal will be hidden. Except from my many followers. 150 million. This is a new thing they put in, they hide your Journal if you don't have "enough" Karma. Guess what, folks, they decide how much is enough. My Karma goes down some more, my tweets will be blocked. They never block the bot accounts, so many of the stories, you look and they're coming from bots. I can tell which ones. Believe me, I can tell. The media and establishment want to silence me. So you'll only see their fake news.

    And maybe the hacker didn't hide that Alert, maybe the administrators did see it. Maybe they saw it and did nothing. Can we call that treason? Why not? I mean, if they did that, they certainly didn’t seem to love our country very much! They run a story about tumors, which is a kind of cancer. I write a tweet about cancer. And that, to them, is Spam? If anyone else wrote the same thing, they wouldn't say it's Spam. I worked so hard to fix our healthcare -- a lot of guys worked on that one, for years -- but one guy gets cancer, he says "don't change the healthcare," and all that work goes down the drain. So they decide my tweet about cancer must be Spam, because they don't agree.

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:52AM (5 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday February 08 2018, @05:52AM (#634708) Homepage Journal

      You haven't been Spam modded since the middle of last month. Must be the Russians.

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Thursday February 08 2018, @06:12AM (1 child)

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday February 08 2018, @06:12AM (#634718) Journal

        No, I reversed it on this one [soylentnews.org].

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday February 08 2018, @06:56AM (1 child)

        by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Thursday February 08 2018, @06:56AM (#634750) Homepage Journal

        My Karma came back. And the Spam Mod disappeared from my cancer tweet. Thank you! Or that sexy Russian lady hacker......but I wish there wasn't Spam Modding.

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday February 08 2018, @11:48AM

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday February 08 2018, @11:48AM (#634827) Homepage Journal

          ...but I wish there wasn't Spam Modding.

          Yeah, me too. Spam modding got this Nigerian prince friend of mine's entire family killed. Now he needs someone with a bank account in the US to help him get the family fortune out of the country so he can escape before they get him too. I don't use banks in my personal life, so I don't have an account. I'm sure he'd be quite generous if any of you were to help him out though.

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          My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: 3, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:15PM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday February 08 2018, @01:15PM (#634877)

        You both got the narrative wrong:

        Russian Hackers. They invaded fluorine

        It actually goes like this:

        Ripper: Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?
        Mandrake: Well, I can't say I have, Jack.
        Ripper: Vodka, that's what they drink, isn't it? Never water?
        Mandrake: Well, I-I believe that's what they drink, Jack, yes.
        Ripper: On no account will a Commie ever drink water, and not without good reason.
        Mandrake: Oh, eh, yes. I, uhm, can't quite see what you're getting at, Jack.
        Ripper: Water, that's what I'm getting at, water. Mandrake, water is the source of all life. Seven-tenths of this Earth's surface is water. Why, do you realize that 70 percent of you is water?
        Mandrake: Good Lord!
        Ripper: And as human beings, you and I need fresh, pure water to replenish our precious bodily fluids.
        Mandrake: Yes. (he begins to chuckle nervously)
        Ripper: Are you beginning to understand?
        Mandrake: Yes. (more laughter)
        Ripper: Mandrake. Mandrake, have you never wondered why I drink only distilled water, or rainwater, and only pure-grain alcohol?
        Mandrake: Well, it did occur to me, Jack, yes.
        Ripper: Have you ever heard of a thing called fluoridation. Fluoridation of water?
        Mandrake: Uh? Yes, I-I have heard of that, Jack, yes. Yes.
        Ripper: Well, do you know what it is?
        Mandrake: No, no I don't know what it is, no.
        Ripper: Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?

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