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posted by on Tuesday January 08 2019, @04:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the spit-and-baling-wire dept.

After a morning of slow query logging and cussing, a misplaced "GROUP BY" that was turning a 0.04 second query into one that took over fifteen seconds has been fixed. I'll leave the slow query log running overnight though just to make sure I didn't miss any less common ones. If you're still seeing any serious site slowdowns, let us know.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by fyngyrz on Tuesday January 08 2019, @04:43PM

    by fyngyrz (6567) on Tuesday January 08 2019, @04:43PM (#783722) Journal

    Looks seriously improved from this end.

    Kudos!

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday January 08 2019, @04:58PM (8 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Tuesday January 08 2019, @04:58PM (#783732) Journal

    Please put in a 30-second page load delay thanks.

    Actually, let's switch to Google AMP.
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    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @05:32PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @05:32PM (#783755)

      Nosql is the clear answer. Group by clauses, set theory, and the relational model are for old white incels. Soylent should be hip and diverse and web-scale!

      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday January 08 2019, @06:08PM (5 children)

        by Freeman (732) on Tuesday January 08 2019, @06:08PM (#783775) Journal

        Oh, you mean, they should find some way to use an excel spreadsheet for all their database needs?

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        • (Score: 3, Funny) by khallow on Tuesday January 08 2019, @08:34PM (4 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 08 2019, @08:34PM (#783834) Journal
          If it's good enough for Eve Online, it's good enough for SoylentNews!
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @08:46PM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @08:46PM (#783843)

            CSV
            works for me!

            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday January 08 2019, @11:46PM (2 children)

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday January 08 2019, @11:46PM (#783889) Homepage Journal

              Let's try the lost art of compromise. CSV in an Excel spreadsheet. Best to be on the safe side and encapsulate it in XML too.

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              • (Score: 4, Funny) by maxwell demon on Wednesday January 09 2019, @06:45AM (1 child)

                by maxwell demon (1608) on Wednesday January 09 2019, @06:45AM (#784007) Journal

                But only if the XML is encapsulated in JSON.

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                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 09 2019, @11:02AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 09 2019, @11:02AM (#784050)

                  Fine, so long as you then serialize it with YAML [wikipedia.org]

    • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Wednesday January 09 2019, @12:39AM

      by Pino P (4721) on Wednesday January 09 2019, @12:39AM (#783916) Journal

      If you need the spacebar heating [xkcd.com], install a Monero miner.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Snow on Tuesday January 08 2019, @04:59PM (2 children)

    by Snow (1601) on Tuesday January 08 2019, @04:59PM (#783733) Journal

    Not all heros wear capes, but I feel that TMB does from time to time.

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday January 08 2019, @05:10PM

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday January 08 2019, @05:10PM (#783740) Homepage Journal

      Naw, my Underoos are all SpiderMan until I feel like finding and shelling out the cash for some Deadpool ones.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 09 2019, @11:09AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 09 2019, @11:09AM (#784052)

      Nooooooo
      he'll get sucked into a hurricane!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @06:34PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @06:34PM (#783780)

    Great, thank you. Now if you could make the site no longer look and perform like total crap on Android and iOS mobile devices, that would be swell.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @06:53PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @06:53PM (#783783)

      it works as it should on my android device

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 09 2019, @03:14AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 09 2019, @03:14AM (#783961)

        That's odd - it was designed to NOT WORK on Android. TMB should check that out.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 09 2019, @11:16AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 09 2019, @11:16AM (#784058)

          You mean iCrap, right?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 09 2019, @11:07AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 09 2019, @11:07AM (#784051)

      Use Android Mobile Firefox.

      When they introduced the new + for expanding comments it broke on other browsers.

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday January 09 2019, @11:24AM (1 child)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday January 09 2019, @11:24AM (#784062) Homepage Journal

        First I've heard of it. We tested a pretty good range of browsers but we only have so many phones between us to test with.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 09 2019, @01:23PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 09 2019, @01:23PM (#784091)

          FWIW, I use Brave Browser on both Android and iOS. Many times the site displays in very tiny text. Zooming only makes the text slightly larger. Other times, it's fine. Also, when posting, many times the entire text box envelopes all of the buttons, including "Preview" and "Submit," making it very difficult to see and access the buttons. Sometimes it is impossible to see and access the buttons while trying to post.

  • (Score: 2) by istartedi on Tuesday January 08 2019, @06:41PM (19 children)

    by istartedi (123) on Tuesday January 08 2019, @06:41PM (#783782) Journal

    I haven't had a slowdown, but just now I had a couple loads where it looked like a 1998 web page with no formatting. I hit ctrl-refresh a couple times and it didn't work. I went to my profile and it was properly formatted, then went back to the front page and it was OK. Maybe the bad query was in my cache and just needed some time to flush. Ooops-spoke too soon. Got a 404 when I hit submit. Let's try again...

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @06:56PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @06:56PM (#783786)
    • (Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Tuesday January 08 2019, @07:02PM

      by bzipitidoo (4388) on Tuesday January 08 2019, @07:02PM (#783791) Journal

      Same here, right after I submitted a comment. Even got a weird message that my comment had been moved "here".

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @07:21PM (11 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @07:21PM (#783806)

      I'd like the "Invalid form key" errors to go away. I'm not behind a proxy or firewall (unless my ISP is doing weird things), nor did I did the damn back key. I can not determin any pattern on my end for when the errors occur. It is quite frustrating. I wonder if it only happens to those of us posting as AC.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @11:26PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @11:26PM (#783884)

        I see those once in 50 posts or so. I don't know why it would happen more with others, when I am using a Frankenbrowser.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @11:47PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @11:47PM (#783890)

        I would like the "slow down cowboy" thing to disappear. Commenting, navigating to another story, reading comments and then trying to comment may take me less than the limit, which is I think 60 seconds.

        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday January 09 2019, @12:49AM (2 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday January 09 2019, @12:49AM (#783923) Homepage Journal

          Sounds good until you realize it would leave folks able to spam the complete and utter hell out of every non-archived story without so much as a speed bump. It is a thing that's extended to subscribers though. Not because they're special but because at least the site got something useful out of it if they waste a bunch of staff time cleaning up after them.

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          • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Wednesday January 09 2019, @06:54AM (1 child)

            by maxwell demon (1608) on Wednesday January 09 2019, @06:54AM (#784009) Journal

            What about enacting the time limit only for three or more posts in a row? Spammers would still get blocked, but most normal users won't run into the restriction.

            The logic could be almost the same as currently: Instead of denying a new post when there was one post in the last 60 seconds, you'd deny a new post when there were 2 posts in the last 120 seconds.

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      • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Wednesday January 09 2019, @12:41AM (5 children)

        by Pino P (4721) on Wednesday January 09 2019, @12:41AM (#783919) Journal

        "Invalid form key" might happen if you click Reply and then wait several hours before submitting.

        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday January 09 2019, @12:50AM (4 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday January 09 2019, @12:50AM (#783924) Homepage Journal

          Or if you change IP addresses, yep.

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          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 09 2019, @03:19AM (1 child)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 09 2019, @03:19AM (#783964) Journal

            I've seen both of those. Type a reply, get called away by the wife, come back and hit submit. Or change to VPN, or disconnect from VPN. Both easily solved - hit the "back" button, copy what you had typed, then reload the topic to which you were responding, hit the "reply" button again. It's a mild irritant, might really piss some other people off.

            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday January 09 2019, @04:27AM

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday January 09 2019, @04:27AM (#783979) Homepage Journal

              It'd probably be a good idea to ditch it for all registered users, honestly. If they get their spam on we have a damned easy recourse, so there's not really a need for them. Cleanup would still be annoying but not insurmountable.

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          • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Wednesday January 09 2019, @02:15PM (1 child)

            by Pino P (4721) on Wednesday January 09 2019, @02:15PM (#784104) Journal

            If I'm commenting while riding the city bus, then my IP address will change depending on what hotspots my laptop or phone happens to pick up at the time. Could the form key IP address check be made less stringent for logged-in users, or for excellent-karma logged-in users? Or is it considered a measure against account compromise?

    • (Score: 2) by GeminiDomino on Tuesday January 08 2019, @07:44PM

      by GeminiDomino (661) on Tuesday January 08 2019, @07:44PM (#783814)

      I got all of those, and whether or not the threading was indented or not seemed to be determined entirely at random on page load. I thought it was my uMatrix or cookie autodelete.

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    • (Score: 4, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday January 08 2019, @07:51PM (1 child)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday January 08 2019, @07:51PM (#783817) Homepage Journal

      Should be cleared up. Apache on fluorine had temporarily lost its mind but a bounce of the process seems to have cleared it up. My BOFH excuse is cosmic rays randomly flipping bits in ram until something useful shows up in the error_log.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @07:57PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @07:57PM (#783820)

        +1 for the BOFH reference.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 09 2019, @11:11AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 09 2019, @11:11AM (#784056)

      It looked all washed out, grey, with bits missed?
      It looked okay the next day.
      I figured someone made a CSS fluckup.

  • (Score: 2) by Subsentient on Tuesday January 08 2019, @10:07PM (1 child)

    by Subsentient (1111) on Tuesday January 08 2019, @10:07PM (#783864) Homepage Journal

    The site was seriously slow for weeks now, and suddenly it's back to a usable state. Thanks!

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