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posted by janrinok on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the stuff-happens dept.

Earlier this morning (around 0520 UTC) we experienced a sequence of faults which we do not, yet, fully understand. Unfortunately this coincided with several key admins being asleep as they should be.

Several of the team started to try to recover the site but all the obvious efforts failed to have the desired results (e.g. restarting the failed software and switching it all off and back on again). Chromas took the lead in this but he was unable to resolve the problems. SemperOSS showed up next and made a mighty effort but things failed to cooperate. Martyb was next in and checked on status of our servers and a few other things but ultimately could not provide much assistance.

TheMightyBuzzard turned up at his usual time and he and SemperOSS set to work trying to recover the site. After a long slog it became apparent that the existing software had suffered some form of corruption and that a simple recovery was not going to be possible. The decision was finally made to restore to yesterday's snapshot, but this comes with a downside. All the stories, comments, and journal entries since that snapshot was taken (approximately 2019-08-14 22:02:36 UTC) have been lost. This is regrettable but under the circumstances unavoidable.

Some of you joined us on IRC and provided real or moral support to those carrying out the recovery task. Others sent us emails informing us of the outage and we also received offers of help. For this we thank you. We also thank our community at large for your patience while we carried out the work that needed to be done. The investigation into what happened has still to be done and will take some time to do. The site is now up again, but as we are not 100% sure what caused the problem we cannot guarantee that the site will function properly and we will have to wait a day or two to be confident that we have resolved the issue.

We tried to keep everyone updated on our progress on our IRC channel but, if you could not get there, then there was little else we could do to update you on our progress. Displaying a short 'Site Down' message actually exacerbated the problems so we decided that it was better to leave the database alone until the problems had been resolved.

Finally, I would like to say thank you to the guys who did all the work under difficult circumstances. Their efforts are appreciated. We used the usual piece of software on IRC to find out who should bear the blame for this debacle (~blame) — it responded with the only name it has in its choice of staff. Bytram!

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The Curious Case of the Missing Journal Entry 111 comments

What started it all:

On 2019-08-24 13:02:01 UTC an accusation (https://soylentnews.org/meta/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=33244&page=1&cid=884682#commentwrap) was made that a Journal Entry "It would have been posted before 6 hours ago" (i.e. posted at approximately 2019-08-24 07:00:00 UTC) was deleted by a member of the staff at SoylentNews. The circumstances surrounding the making of the Journal Entry are elaborated upon in this comment. (https://soylentnews.org/meta/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=33244&page=1&cid=885191#commentwrap)

I have been with this site since before it went live. Its founding principal has been the making available of a forum whereby the community can submit stories — and post comments — to predominantly tech-related items. Further, each logged-in user has been made available the ability to post entries to their Journal.

As Editor-in-Chief I took this allegation seriously and performed an independent and in-depth investigation. My findings are presented below.

Note: It is not lost on me the futility of trying to prove a negative. It is for good reason that the criminal justice system in the US is founded on the principle of "innocent until proven guilty." It is not up the the accused to vindicate themselves, but for the accuser to bring sufficient evidence to bring about conviction.

NB: In the course of writing this, I discovered a bug in how the site displays wide elements contained in an ECODE element. It incorrectly wraps the text onto the next line (leading to a jumbled mess) when it should, instead, provide horizontal scroll bars. Please accept my apologies for its current appearance.

Executive Summary:

An in-depth investigation making use of: external resources, the UI presented by SoylentNews, and ad-hoc queries of the site database (DB) failed to locate a "smoking gun", i.e. found no clear proof that a Journal Entry was posted to the site and subsequently deleted by anyone other than an author.

It is my estimation that the user submitted an entry, but the site failed to receive and save it correctly. In other words, the user tripped over some kind of bug be it in the site's code, communications between the user and the site, or something else.

Recommendation: When a user completes making a Journal Entry and submits it to the site, the code should respond by using the newly-created journal parameters in conjunction with the normal journal-loading code to present the Journal Entry to the user as confirmation that the entry was properly received and saved. That is to say, affirmative feedback of receipt, storage, and accessibility of the Journal Entry.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:01PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:01PM (#880575)

    Nothing else :-)

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:09PM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:09PM (#880581)

      If you restored to a snapshot, can you rerelease the stories from the queue that had made it out yesterday?

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:14PM (4 children)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:14PM (#880583) Homepage Journal

        &;t;Bytram> I've got a tab somewhere with what was previously in our story queue

        I'm guessing that's a qualified "yes" but I'm not an ed.

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        My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: 3, Funny) by driverless on Friday August 16 2019, @04:17AM (1 child)

        by driverless (4770) on Friday August 16 2019, @04:17AM (#880876)

        Earlier this morning (around 0520 UTC) we experienced a sequence of faults which we do not, yet, fully understand. Unfortunately this coincided with several key admins being asleep as they should be.

        If they were admins, why were they asleep at peak productive hours? Sleep is what you do from 6am-12pm.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by takyon on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:02PM (12 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:02PM (#880576) Journal
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    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:23PM (11 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:23PM (#880590)

      This site is a den of factists spreading their filth no matter who it hurts. That is why it was taken down. I feel much safer with Google filtering you out of what my friends and family may find online.

      • (Score: 4, Touché) by takyon on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:28PM (6 children)

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:28PM (#880591) Journal

        What are facts?

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        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:49PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:49PM (#880599)

          Facts are what you tell someone if you don't care about their feelings.

          • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Freeman on Thursday August 15 2019, @03:41PM (2 children)

            by Freeman (732) on Thursday August 15 2019, @03:41PM (#880624) Journal

            I'd take a grain of truth over a heaping pile of whatever it is you're serving.

            --
            Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
            • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @04:31PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @04:31PM (#880641)

              When my friend watches CNN they get the feeling they might kill themself if Trump gets elected again. Which is more important, saving a woman's life or spewing your "facts" all over the internet?

              • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Reziac on Friday August 16 2019, @07:39AM

                by Reziac (2489) on Friday August 16 2019, @07:39AM (#880935) Homepage

                Just turn off her damn TV.

                --
                And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
          • (Score: 2) by kazzie on Thursday August 15 2019, @03:57PM

            by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 15 2019, @03:57PM (#880625)

            That explains why teachers are so apathetic.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:52PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:52PM (#880601)

          What are facts?

          The SN servers shit the bed and lost a bunch of comments, journal entries and submissions. Dassa fact.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by hemocyanin on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:49PM (2 children)

        by hemocyanin (186) on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:49PM (#880598) Journal

        Go back to twitter where you belong.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @04:33PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @04:33PM (#880642)

          Twitter has conspiracy theories on it, making people feel very uncomfortable. They need to clean up that site.

          • (Score: 3, Touché) by acid andy on Thursday August 15 2019, @05:25PM

            by acid andy (1683) on Thursday August 15 2019, @05:25PM (#880655) Homepage Journal

            That's just what they WANT you to think!

            --
            If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
      • (Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:43PM

        by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:43PM (#880697)

        Factists? You know what? I like that term. I'm a subscriber to the Joe Friday "just the facts ma'am" club.

        --
        The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams.
  • (Score: 3, Informative) by SomeGuy on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:18PM (11 children)

    by SomeGuy (5632) on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:18PM (#880586)

    I was browsing the site last night, possibly when this happened. Just reading some story, then a minute later, I clicked on my user ID (in the top box of the main page) to see my post list, and I got an error message saying that user ID was not found. (Uh oh!) I hit reload, and from there just got a generic Internal Server Error.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by pvanhoof on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:50PM

      by pvanhoof (4638) on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:50PM (#880600) Homepage

      ~blame -- SomeGuy!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @04:23PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @04:23PM (#880637)

      OMG! What happened next? You can't finish the story like that.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by maxwell demon on Thursday August 15 2019, @09:14PM

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Thursday August 15 2019, @09:14PM (#880735) Journal

        You'll have to wait for the novel to be published. I think the title is Soylent Night.

        --
        The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    • (Score: 2) by shortscreen on Thursday August 15 2019, @04:30PM (1 child)

      by shortscreen (2252) on Thursday August 15 2019, @04:30PM (#880639) Journal

      Same here, and I had just posted a beautiful car analogy! Then all the story links began returning "Nothing to see here, move along."

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @12:08AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @12:08AM (#880782)

        It accepted my comment about hot grits poured over a pretty young thing but then wouldn't load the page after :(

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @04:35PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @04:35PM (#880644)

      Oh yeah? Well I posted a comment telling jmorris to apologize to athaniuskucher, obviously that got him mad so he destroyed the site and wiped his error from existence!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @08:50PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @08:50PM (#880728)

      Yesterday, as AC, I posted a comment, but my comment never appeared in the other comments after that.
      It wouldn't let me fix it by reposting the same comment afterward because it claimed the comment had already been posted.
      I had never seen that type of bug before on Soylent News...

      • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Thursday August 15 2019, @10:35PM (1 child)

        by acid andy (1683) on Thursday August 15 2019, @10:35PM (#880749) Homepage Journal

        So what you are trying to tell us is, you broke SoylentNews?!

        --
        If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @02:57AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @02:57AM (#880848)

          Hey, it was like that when I got here.

    • (Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Friday August 16 2019, @12:28AM

      by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Friday August 16 2019, @12:28AM (#880792) Journal

      I was writing a journal entry.

      And then I discovered a truly marvelous proof of the Riemann Hypothesis, which the server is too underpowered to contain.

      (At least, I think it was the Riemann Hypothesis. I don't really remember. Alas!)

    • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Friday August 16 2019, @02:57PM

      by Reziac (2489) on Friday August 16 2019, @02:57PM (#881108) Homepage

      Ah! it was you! you broke the internet!!

      --
      And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by PiMuNu on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:20PM (2 children)

    by PiMuNu (3823) on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:20PM (#880588)

    Well done for recovery!

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:22PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:22PM (#880589) Journal

    clicked the site, and got an error message. Joined IRC as suggested, and you guys had it fixed. Good timing!!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:43PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:43PM (#880595)

    my headless, linux powered 24/7 running torrent daemon also vanished (process crash) yesterday.
    maybe some "evil bit" packets making the rounds¿

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by hemocyanin on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:47PM

    by hemocyanin (186) on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:47PM (#880597) Journal

    I went to bed before the crash, and woke up after the fix. Great work, I wouldn't have even known.

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:54PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:54PM (#880604)

    The link in the Wiki to the SN IRC is wrong.
    - irc.soylentnews.org/6697 returns a 404
    - irc.soylentnews.org returns a Postfix Admin page

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:55PM (5 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:55PM (#880702) Homepage Journal

      It's not supposed to be a clickable link or a web page. If you want the web irc client the address is chat.soylentnews.org, irc.soylentnews.org and irc.sylnt.us are for actual irc clients.

      --
      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @09:34PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @09:34PM (#880739)

        Doesn't that belong in the Wiki? And don't be lazy by replying "it's in the left nav" because that left nav was nowhere to be found when the site was DOA.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @12:10AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @12:10AM (#880785)

          Documentation? What's that?

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @01:39AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @01:39AM (#880816)

        FWIW, "irc" is a registered IANA uri scheme. Same with the "irc6" and "ircs" schemes. The registered syntax is:

        irc[6|s]://<host>[:<port>]/[<channel>[?<password>]]

      • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Friday August 16 2019, @02:59PM (1 child)

        by Reziac (2489) on Friday August 16 2019, @02:59PM (#881111) Homepage

        Geez, you mean any damn yahoo can sneak in and see what you lot are up to?

        Kewl! :D

        --
        And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday August 16 2019, @07:46PM

          Most of the official channels are public and unmoderated, short of keeping things legal and not spamming too much. We keep one staff-private channel for when we want to discuss personal stuff that we don't want aired for the whole Internet or need to talk about site stuff that need to not be public knowledge (mostly stuff involving non-public user info like direct user data or how someone moderated someone else and what if anything needs done about it). You can of course make your own and do whatever you like in them short of running C&C for malware.

          --
          My rights don't end where your fear begins.
  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:54PM

    by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Thursday August 15 2019, @02:54PM (#880605) Journal

    Thanks for the efforts, oh master soylentils!

    --
    This sig for rent.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @03:08PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @03:08PM (#880608)

    Rebooting the Windows server with a BFH?

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Thursday August 15 2019, @03:37PM (1 child)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Thursday August 15 2019, @03:37PM (#880623)

    I had just posted a troll post this morning stating that this entire site was run my Nazi CowboyNeal ass-loving GNAA members, but it got deleted so I'm in the clear. Lucky me!

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @02:25AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @02:25AM (#880839)

      /. misses you really really badly and wants you to come back.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by opinionated_science on Thursday August 15 2019, @03:59PM

    by opinionated_science (4031) on Thursday August 15 2019, @03:59PM (#880626)

    Are you guys using ZFS?

    It's saved my day at least a few times the last 5 years!!

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Thursday August 15 2019, @04:10PM

    by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Thursday August 15 2019, @04:10PM (#880629) Journal

    Thank you guys for everything you do, I know it's a lot of work but your trust amongst each other and expertise is a true treasure of the open web which allowed a loud voice for reason in this batshit clown time.

    I hope my contributions here are worthy of the quality of your efforts, and I am frankly not sure where I would even want to write online anymore if this site were not here. (besides my lovely static site of course)

    Keep it up, don't let the bastards grind you down.

    You will also notice as of this time that there is the hugest scandal in the history of the world going on and this site is one of the only places where I have been able to say reasonable things about it.

    This is not coincidence, in my opinion at least. It is a scary time to be a good person, but good people know that bad people being bad is no reason to stop being good.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @04:54PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @04:54PM (#880648)

    Let's show these guys our gratitude for a job well done. Thanks to all who responded, your efforts are appreciated.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by martyb on Thursday August 15 2019, @11:01PM

      by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 15 2019, @11:01PM (#880754) Journal

      Good time to donate to the beer fund...

      Let's show these guys our gratitude for a job well done. Thanks to all who responded, your efforts are appreciated.

      Speaking only for myself and from what I've observed, it seems to me that a large part of the reason why everyone works so well together is that we on staff are NOT in it for the money.

      Nobody has ever received even a penny for their efforts on this site — it has been entirely about "What can I do to help?"

      What would mean a lot to me would be to see the community continue to fund the site and ensure that we have the financial foundation to keep running. We run a lean organization, but it still costs real cash money to pay for the servers, the domain name, the accountant for filing taxes, etc.

      The logged in users will see a Subscribe [soylentnews.org] link in the SlashBox on the left-hand side of the main page. Click it. Enter whatever amount you want to pay (the number provided is the minimum) and the duration, and you are on your way! We accept payments made through either PayPal or Stripe. (NB, for those with ad blockers, you may need to enable Javascript from the payment processor's site.)

      Quite frankly, reading this description is probably more complicated and time-consuming than actually subscribing!

      So, if you value this site and you are able, please click the link above and [re]subscribe. Thank you!

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  • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Thursday August 15 2019, @05:47PM (12 children)

    by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Thursday August 15 2019, @05:47PM (#880669) Journal

    At first I thought, maybe I will wait to say this, but now after reading more details after returning from a short vacation that started last saturday, for my own safety, now is the time. I apologize only for the manifesto-ish nature of this, but there is no other way.

    Soylentees, I need your help and I am not joking and this is not a drill.

    Wednesday August 14th at approximately 1pm, out of extreme moral outrage, I attempted to shut down the Victoria's Secret in the Amsterdam Airport through direct action, twice, and after first a warning, I was fined 140 euros the second time and released.

    The security guard grabbed me from where I was sitting on the cash register and I have a large bruise on my arm from where he grabbed me.

    I told the airport police I was going to confiscate the cash registers to begin distributing repairations to the victims and investigating the political corruption involved, unfortunately a friendly dutch policeman would not let me past him and he was around 2 feet taller than me. I told them after a lengthy series of interviews including one with a psychologist who decided not to commit me, that I found Victoria's Secret to be a cult and a mafia organization which is incompatable with western culture, western civlization, the rule of law, and any sense of ethics.

    I accused the police of being insane for not shutting it down themselves, in so many words. And I accuse every other person on planet earth who has not made such an action of extreme moral failure, and all such people need to wake up. This will not go away on its own, to leave this to some 'investigation' by the same people responsible for the corruption is not acceptable, wise, or safe.

    I also told the police that since I had now performed this action, my life was going to be in danger, especially if this cult knows what I am trying to do and no one else. This is why I made the second attempt to block the entrance and forced a recorded legal action.

    This, of course, puts my life at risk, and so I asked the officers to jail me in the netherlands, but I do not think they wanted to make a bigger issue of it which I understand. Publicity is the only way I can defend myself and I have already reported numerous harassing events leading up to this, I believe due to my outspoken opposition to this corruption and specifically that which eminates from whatever the borderless entity of Israel is.

    It is not as if I can go back, I have been loud about this for a long time, and my worst theories have been proven tragically correct, so I have no way back out of this, I hope you can understand. But everyone must pick their enemies and these are the ones I have picked because they are at the root of the problems on our planet.

    This movement will continue until all victoria's secrets are closed, permanently, the victims are found and compensated, and every possible connection to this is uncovered.

    #weknowthesecret
    #supercreepy
    #endpredatorycapitalism
    #shinethelight
    #scattertheroaches
    #stopantihumanism
    #globalchildrenrescuehotline
    #acultisnotabusiness
    #decultificationofamerica
    #endthisdarkpsychicenergy

    Two prison guards did not simultaneously fall asleep last Friday night, I think any reasonable person would agree, so anyone partaking in this action will accept some risk with me, but if I must stand alone I must.(although I strongly suspect others elsewhere are planning similar actions)

    Since I boycott virtually every other social media platform, I would appreciate any soylenti assistance in spreading the word internationally so that we can take down this child abusing cult fronting as a business.

    And yes if I disappear or die, it was not an accident. People with 400eu to their name usually don't try to take down billion dollar corporations, but this is what needs to be done.

    We have to do this together, but you have to pick a side and now is the time. Frankly, I am astounded that I have to start this, but if that's the way it has to be that's what I'm going to do. This company and everything it represents, and many other such companies and half-spy organizations are antithetical to civilian life, civilian government and freedom itself, and of course our children, and we can certainly manufacture and distribute fancy underpants without this atrocious company thank you very much.

    This is the fight we have been preparing for. This, I believe, is why this site was attacked, until I hear any better theory. I do not apologize for speaking the truth about this here, you should applaud yourselves for making space where this can even be openly discussed in public.

    I will however not apologize for standing for these principles, I urge you to consider your own every time you might walk past this store for the next 10, 15, 20, 100 years if we do not act right now. Every day their pr nonsense will distance the company from the the association with Jeffrey Epstein until direct action will appear meaningless and be ineffective.

    It is not just a movement against a single cultish mafia company, it is a movement against corruption, against child abuse, against human trafficking, and against any type of political system where justice can be bought and the poor are held to a higher standard than the rich when it should obviously be the other way around.

    For evil to triumph, all it takes if is for good people to remain silent and I am not that guy.

    #pickaside
    #dontleavemehanging

    There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root. - Henry David Thoreau

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @05:59PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @05:59PM (#880675)

      #TeamRape #DickSquadUp #PullOutPushIn

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by janrinok on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:14PM (4 children)

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:14PM (#880683) Journal

      You are definitely not the late MDC reincarnated - but you do share some of his qualities. He could be bat-shit crazy some days too.

      • (Score: 2) by Chocolate on Friday August 16 2019, @12:15AM

        by Chocolate (8044) on Friday August 16 2019, @12:15AM (#880787) Journal

        I was just thinking the same. Almost an MDC, not enough nuts, perhaps add alcohol before posting again.

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        Bit-choco-coin anyone?
      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by coolgopher on Friday August 16 2019, @03:19AM

        by coolgopher (1157) on Friday August 16 2019, @03:19AM (#880853)

        I got my hopes up that the database restore also restored MDC...

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @08:17AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @08:17AM (#880948)

        MDC had a thread of truth running through his narratives. His perspectives glimmered with "well, I guess technically one might see it in that way without inconsistencies." He rambled confusingly but interestingly. When he was outright wrong, his fears and mistakes still felt like they tapped the culture's lizard brain fears.

        The above is a coherent storyteller having fun spinning a short yarn. Fine and dandy but there's no meat in the broth, it's just warm water.

      • (Score: 1) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Friday August 16 2019, @04:02PM

        by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Friday August 16 2019, @04:02PM (#881144) Journal

        Hi, thank you for responding. And of course your work on the site. There is a nugget of extremly important information at the bottom as a reward fyi.

        There is a good kind of batshit crazy, it's also known as 'thinking outside of the box' sometimes. I am more of a person trying to destroy or radically modify the box as well. People ask me 'what am i smoking' and I respond, nothing, I am just thinking you should try it sometime. Calling something or someone crazy before attempting to ask them a single question about why they are doing what they are doing is, I also think, anti-intellectual.\

        What do you think would happen if timothy leary or terrence mckenna or marshal mcluhan or bill hicks or hunter s thompson or kurt vonnegut or john lennon or david foster wallace were here? Imagine. Long sentences or experimental grammar are signs of intelligence, modification of the language, and it makes the brain feel....differently when reading it. I mean, isn't this always a quality of good writing and reasoning, it stimulates you in a way that is hard to discribe? In our culture this is a major type of brain control, to get people to reject ideas without consideration, a massive campaign of thought terminating cliches.

        I do not have mental health issues, besides the accumulated effects of state and private surveillance and zersetzung tactics that have been used against me nearly my entirely life. I will answer all questions about this and the stories I have to tell are extremely indicative about how the system works to silent dissidents without anyone knowing anything was done at all. It should scare you. It is scary.

        But I meditate regularly and when I start experiencing anything I can't handle internally I'll let you know.

        If there is a quality I think I share with MDC, I think it is the capacity for true free thought and speech without fear(also known as "balls") and I would like to see more people give it a try. If you want to talk about the truth, you have to talk about it like you have nothing to lose. Also, I have just noticed, and I think this is a good thing, that everyone on the internet may have spoken, but my idea still will not be represented in the thread. Writers are supposed to do this, this is what original writing is, adding something to the discussion that is valuable and not yet heard, and I would prefer not to be shamed for it. I want to be told I am wrong and why if I am, not have people stand back and point fingers at the wierdo who dares to actually try to be original.

        MDC's poverty was due to his illness, mine is due to being secretly attacked by spies, there is a big difference.

        Read the 'Important definitions' page on my website then tell me what I get wrong, and what you find helpful, and from that please determine who and what i am not some armchair blind diagnosis from a distance.(also why i left reddit, everything i posted was eventually responded to with accusations i was insane or on drugs and this is a tactic the use of which puts you in bed with people I think you would rather not be.

        Insane people write horrible essays generally and have difficult times explaining themselves, I bank my sanity entirely on the writing on my static site if necessary. Tell me what i say that is crazy and I will discuss it with you all day long but dismissing without thought is, again, anti-intelletual and I came here to have an intellectual discussion.

        New developments, sorry it's so long.

        1 my bus this morning was shut down 300m before my stop with a red light on the dash that driver could not explain. this is also what happened to my honda crv before i left the usa.

        2 when i was handing out flyers i was definitely surveilled while talking with someone by 3 people who took 5 minutes of selfies of a euro gallerie sign for no reason 3 feet from us.

        3 walking home a low flying airplane crossed my direct path, i was unable to get a photo before it flew into the sun

        4 my nordvpn account is cancelled and out of order as of today, first time that has ever happened. this indicates without doubt that nordvpn is not a legitimate company and everyone using it needs to be warned.

        See I told you there would be a nugget of objective value :)

        And if you want to help me find a nugget of value, why was my demonstration in amsterdam not news anywhere? Can you or anyone even confirm it happened to prove I'm not making it up? Why not, rather than pointing fingers and throwing labels around willy nilly, actually put what I'm saying to the test and find out for yourself?

        What if someone else tomorrow starts a campaign to shut down victoria's secret and claim they thought of it first, and that gets turned into a branch of the victoria's secret corporation to actually PREVENT the investigation and traffic more 13 year olds to elderly creeps for fun and profit on huge yachts?

        That's the level I'm playing at, what level are you up to? Where do you stand? What kind of person are you really, do you care about other people and living in a society where the weak and innocent are protected rather than food?

        ps torbrowser for this site is kindof bad, i get a dark text box which is good, with a white background which is very bad and makes it unusable.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:32PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:32PM (#880691)

      Take away? You are not under arrest. But you are paranoid delusional? BDS, bro?

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:45PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:45PM (#880699)

      I attempted to shut down the Victoria's Secret in the Amsterdam Airport through direct action, twice, and after first a warning, I was fined 140 euros the second time and released.

      If you try that in US, they would shoot you instead. But yeah, you need some help bro.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @01:14AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @01:14AM (#880805)

      Say that there are insane pedophiles among us and they agree with you. Add that the pedophile child murderer cult is run from Rothschild-owned khazar israel and they attack you like there is no tomorrow. Note to JIDF agents: we will still be around tomorrow but you may not be. The tide is turning...

      • (Score: 1) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Friday August 16 2019, @04:12PM

        by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Friday August 16 2019, @04:12PM (#881149) Journal

        my friends are out therr, it is nice to see some confirmation of it every once in a while.

        :)

        #shinethelight
        #scattertheroaches
        #spreadtheword

        Anons could help me by finding out why no one in amsterdam reported my action to a newspaper, or if they did, or whatever, that is not something I can do myself. I want the amsterdam newspaper to call me for an interview, that's what needs to happen at this point, someone make it happen.

        Otherwrise I just get the regular bizarro numbers hitting my voicemail and leaving no messages, which is a daily thing already for months if not years.

        Oh and one more thing, add this to the knowledge of their tactics, with the knowledge that nordvpn is comprimised...when I reloaded my nokia for the month and it reactivated, I was immediately called by someone with a very strange germarn accent babbling. I mean, the deutsche telekom guy had my phone in his hand with the confirmation message and handed the phone to me that I had a call.

        Again, that is the level I'm at. This is not a drill. #thisisnotadrill

        #pickaside

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @03:52AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @03:52AM (#880863)

      When you're going to tell a story like that, you might want to start with some background information. How many people would you expect to know anything about connections between Victoria's Secret, Epstein, and Israel?

      • (Score: 1) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Friday August 16 2019, @03:39PM

        by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Friday August 16 2019, @03:39PM (#881133) Journal

        it's in the wikipedia article, it's in all of the articles. it's the most key single piece of information to the entire story, and i have been looking for that key personally fro a very very long time.

        anyone who does not read that already themselves is too far behind to be helpful at this stage anyway.

        basically anyone who has been silent this long about it, is not the type of person that can help yet.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:13PM (15 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:13PM (#880682)

    Big thanks to Operators for fixing. Today I found the front page only and... no way to go to previous news page.
    P.S. Does it really run on Perl?

    • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:45PM (1 child)

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:45PM (#880698) Journal

      Does it really run on Perl?

      Yes, the original software was written decades ago, although the devs have updated it to modern versions that are still supported. And what would be gained by rewriting it apart from a few more years of bug splatting?

      • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Friday August 16 2019, @03:05PM

        by Reziac (2489) on Friday August 16 2019, @03:05PM (#881113) Homepage

        Which may make you lot behind the scenes crazy, but out here in userland, it works good enough for me. In fact, it works damn fine.

        --
        And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:51PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:51PM (#880701)

      What doesn't run on Perl? :P

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @12:17AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @12:17AM (#880789)

        systemd.
        It won't tolerate anything escaping.

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @02:59AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @02:59AM (#880849)

        Anything written in the last 15 years.

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday August 15 2019, @07:03PM (8 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday August 15 2019, @07:03PM (#880705) Homepage Journal

      It doesn't just run on perl, it runs extremely well on perl. Unfortunately mod_perl has fallen way out of favor and isn't being updated so it can compile with newer versions of perl and apache (important for security updates at the very least), so I'm seriously starting to think about making a perl application server and dropping apache and mod_perl all together.

      --
      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: 3, Funny) by darkfeline on Thursday August 15 2019, @07:40PM (4 children)

        by darkfeline (1030) on Thursday August 15 2019, @07:40PM (#880716) Homepage

        >It doesn't just run on perl, it runs extremely well on perl

        Right after a catastrophic failure is not the best time to make such a claim.

        --
        Join the SDF Public Access UNIX System today!
        • (Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday August 15 2019, @07:48PM (3 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday August 15 2019, @07:48PM (#880717) Homepage Journal

          That was all on mysql_cluster. Had nothing to do with rehash.

          --
          My rights don't end where your fear begins.
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @03:21AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @03:21AM (#880854)

            Damn Oracle...

            I mean, it's Oracle, I'm sure they're to blame somehow!

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @09:43AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @09:43AM (#880967)

            So what you are saying is that it was a mysql cluster ferk

          • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Friday August 16 2019, @12:56PM

            by maxwell demon (1608) on Friday August 16 2019, @12:56PM (#881028) Journal

            So maybe you should rewrite the database in Perl. :-)

            --
            The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @11:50PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @11:50PM (#880771)

        Thanks for answer. I program lots of things in Perl and use it as an "algorithm notepad" with a instant testing feature :).
        I remember that there was something I encountered when code borked itself, but I don't remember what things had to go in coincidence... There was definitely some specific construct and bad RAM.

      • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Friday August 16 2019, @03:55AM (1 child)

        by RS3 (6367) on Friday August 16 2019, @03:55AM (#880865)

        ...so I'm seriously starting to think about making a perl application server and dropping apache and mod_perl all together.

        Sounds ambitious!

        How about updating mod_perl?

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by maxwell demon on Thursday August 15 2019, @09:19PM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Thursday August 15 2019, @09:19PM (#880737) Journal

      P.S. Does it really run on Perl?

      Yes. Just like the universe itself. [xkcd.com]

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  • (Score: 1) by yuhong on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:28PM (1 child)

    by yuhong (6517) on Thursday August 15 2019, @06:28PM (#880690) Journal

    My Upgrade Readiness post was on top during this period.
    I now have a Wikipedia article draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Upgrade_Readiness [wikipedia.org]
    It still needs a screenshot.
    And MS still has not responded BTW.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @09:37AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 16 2019, @09:37AM (#880965)

      East Germany also had a similar program but they called it Stasi.

      Unfortunately I cannot provide a screenshot as the last windoze version I used was Windows 2000.

  • (Score: 1) by pTamok on Thursday August 15 2019, @07:17PM

    by pTamok (3042) on Thursday August 15 2019, @07:17PM (#880708)

    Many thanks to the volunteers who keep this site going and took the time to fault diagnose and ultimately decide to restore the site from a recent good snapshot.

    The fact that the backup snapshot was available, and put in place so quickly is commendable. Well done. And thank you all, again.

  • (Score: 2) by Hartree on Thursday August 15 2019, @08:59PM (3 children)

    by Hartree (195) on Thursday August 15 2019, @08:59PM (#880730)

    "Lately it occurs to me. What a long strange trip it's been."

    Thanks to all who missed sleep and worked hard to put it right again!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @09:06PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 15 2019, @09:06PM (#880731)

    Got it when trying to look at Pupnick's sandwich journal and changed to -1 rating to see all posts.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by EEMac on Friday August 16 2019, @02:18AM (1 child)

    by EEMac (6423) on Friday August 16 2019, @02:18AM (#880834)

    This site is a beacon of sanity in the middle of an increasingly-corporate internet. Thanks for all the work keeping Soylent going!

  • (Score: 2) by DutchUncle on Friday August 16 2019, @12:38PM

    by DutchUncle (5370) on Friday August 16 2019, @12:38PM (#881019)

    Your work and efforts are appreciated. Small thanks, perhaps, but heartfelt.

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