[2020-12-25 22:18:22 UTC -- Corrected typo (with thanks to maxwell demon) --martyb]
[2020-12-25 21:32:03 UTC -- Updated with staff info and reformatted the story. --martyb]
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by AnonTechie on Friday December 25 2020, @08:07PM
I too wish all of you and especially, to all those who volunteer here, the very best for this festive season and hope that you enjoy your holidays. Please stay safe and be healthy.
Albert Einstein - "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
(Score: 4, Touché) by aristarchus on Friday December 25 2020, @08:13PM (1 child)
Having been born before this Jesus dude, I tend not to celebrate the holey days of these new-aged religions, but Happy Winter Solstice a few days late. And with the Grand Conjunction, the prospects for the coming year are good. Even SN has been showing signs of increased rationality and reality lately! Thanks, Editors and Admins, and all who contribute, in whatever fashion, to keeping the soylent in SoylentNews.
Aristarchas of Samos
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday December 26 2020, @10:06AM
What a pity, though. I was just adjusting to the idea of being crazy, not an entirely unpleasant thing to be I must say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1, Insightful) by fakefuck39 on Friday December 25 2020, @09:15PM (69 children)
I can answer that. I used to subscribe the people who run the site in order to donate, I used to send gift certificates for equipment. Large sums, because I use and enjoy the site, and I got the sums as spare change.
so here's why not. the quality of the articles has become absolute shit, and the "editors" whatever that means, are to blame. We get 10 articles in a row from some idiot reading another news aggregator on nature - about whales, about some native tribe on an island, about bird feather lift. bland boring shit, and the whole page is filled with them. Those articles are submitted by the bland boring person, probably one after another as he skims some nature blog. now that this crap fills the page, mission accomplished, now "discuss." no thanks.
I see people complain that they submit their shit, it sits in some queue for a month, and then gets rejected. I'm going to assume those are the interesting articles. I myself have submitted very few, but same story - pending for a month then rejected. And at least my stuff - well it's definitely tech, it's definitely interesting and useful, and it's nothing to do with bird migrations. What do the "editors" respond with when people complain? I usually see the excuse that it's a lot of work, and they can only get so many done.
It's not a lot of work. It's 10 minutes of work per day go glance at a submission and approve. You're not an editor - you're a spam filter. You don't need to read and understand the article - you need to glance at the title and summary and see if it's appropriate for here. Whale blubber is not. But instead here's the way it works now: a few submitters who submit absolute bland shit just get approved without the "editor" reading, and we get trash on the front page.
so, if we look at donations as cash we give for content, I'm not paying for this shit content we've been getting in about the last year. No, the solution is not more "editors." It's a dog to randomly hit keys on the keyboard to pick articles, because lemme tell ya, that pooch would do a better job, and I'd gladly pay for his dogfood.
so why not subscribe? actually the question is why subscribe. there used to be a reason, now there's not. you want to keep the quality as it is? that's perfectly fine too - it's your site. but a bland site like that, and there are thousands like that, is trash that runs on ads. sites that run on donations only work if they aren't bland shit.
and why yes, I am indeed a complete jackass.
(Score: -1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 25 2020, @09:30PM (5 children)
I'll add to that that with all the Covid / Health / Politics articles we have been served (not necessarily the editors' fault, because many tech-active regions have been under a two-weeks-to-flatten-the-curve lockdown for 10 months by now), Leftists here have organized themselves into a downmod mob that Rightists don't have the time or initiative to effectively counter.
Combined with the way moderation works on this site, it is too easy to "cancel" opinions. And contributing to enabling a nascent, yet another, Leftist cancel-culture playground is not something I'm particularly enthusiastic about.
(Score: 4, Touché) by Tork on Friday December 25 2020, @09:50PM
🏳️🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️🌈
(Score: 2, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Friday December 25 2020, @10:08PM
lol that's not adding to anything. covid is a huge scientific topic in biology and chemistry. it's not partisan, and only you and idiots like you make it about politics - because the science flies over your head. people shitting on you and modding you down is because you say stupid shit discussing a topic that needs you to pass a highschool biology class - you didn't.
the way moderation works on this site, no opinions are cancelled. literally everyone here reads at -1, and moderation is just a little label next to the comment they see. that label doesn't cancel or hide anything - it just tells you people think you're a dumb faggot. go fuck yourself.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @07:42AM
(Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Saturday December 26 2020, @10:11AM (1 child)
Where's my "-2 Pathetic whinger" mod when I need it?
"Free aristarchus", remember? Where were you to raise hell over ari's right of "freedom from cancel"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @07:11PM
As always conservatives don't care till it happens to them. Gusty is the cutest whiney troll around here tho.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Friday December 25 2020, @10:03PM (4 children)
I remember times, in the not-distant past, when the subs queue was empty, and the editors were collectively scrambling to come up with a couple stories to post.
You didn't name names, but I feel you are referring to me.
I don't subscribe to a nature blog, as you suspect. Instead, I have an RSS reader installed on my desktop. https://lzone.de/liferea/ [lzone.de]
I skim the feeds, looking for things that interest me, to greater and lesser degrees. Those that catch my interest, I submit. I do little filtering. Nature, science, tech, industry, some of the legal disputes that will interest techies, tech history, archeology, evolution, ecology, military tech, transportation tech - those are all fodder for discussion, IMO.
Anyone can do similar, I think. It takes a little time to populate the feeds with at least marginally interesting sources, but not much. When you stumble across some site with a few interesting articles, add it to the RSS reader. As I say, anyone can do as much - and I invite everyone to do so.
All I can say is, I'll continue as I have been doing, unless and until others fill the queue with more interesting stories. When the subs queue page overflows into a second page, then I'll get more discriminating.
Besides - I like whales! And puppies. Expect a puppy sub soon! No kittens though. TMB can do a kitty sub if he likes.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 25 2020, @10:05PM
Nothing if not perceptive, that Runaway!
(Score: 2, Funny) by fakefuck39 on Friday December 25 2020, @10:12PM
I'm actually not referring to you at all. Your submissions are about half interesting, which is not bad. it's your comments that are dumb as shit, and I absolutely love them for it. you're a retard, but keep on doin what you're doin. not everyone has the same viewpoint, and it's nice to have someone always be so stupidly wrong. seriously, nothing at all against you personally, you complete and utter idiot.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @02:11AM (1 child)
> ... an RSS reader installed on my desktop. https://lzone.de/liferea/ [lzone.de]
Another RSS option is http://www.pipedot.org/feed/ [pipedot.org]
For anyone that missed the *uck beta cluster, Pipedot was developed roughly in parallel with SN. While it's currently dead as a news site, the owner has very nicely maintained his RSS interface.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 26 2020, @02:50AM
That link is useful! I already have many of those, so I'm sifting through, and adding some of the rest to my feed reader. Just using their feed directly doesn't work in Liferea - or if it would work, I don't know how to make it work. There are a lot there!
Thank you, Mr. Coward!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 25 2020, @11:05PM (21 children)
I don't care about the opinions of someone who felt the need to harass and impersonate creimer for months on end for his own personal entertainment. It wouldn't surprise me if you're behind the spam/impersonation accounts here, too. Most of the stories don't get posted because they require substantial editing to go from the raw article text to an actual summary. If you want your stuff accepted, edit it yourself.
That said, I do have real objections with how the site is run. Admins and editors should feel the need to set an example of civility and not post factually incorrect or offensive BS. Most do exactly that, but not all. Being an admin shouldn't mean you can say and do whatever the hell you want. Yes, you're contributing your time, and I appreciate that. But you have the ability to work on this project you believe in because of the generous contributions from subscribers. Posting snide replies to your users, some of whom financially back this site, only drives those people away from subscribing in the future.
The lameness filter is out of control, being modified to ban posting of specific spam text, but also blocking some legitimate comments. Although it's not as heavy-handed as Slashdot's filters, it's headed in that direction. The volume of comments isn't that high on this site. The editors could easy use unlimited spam mod points to eliminate actual crapfloods, yet refuse to take this common sense action. Instead, we get our comments blocked with highly unprofessional messages about "douchebaggery quotients" and things like that. No, I don't want spam. But I don't want an increasingly onerous lameness filter, either. If editors can examine the database for all instances of duplicate spam messages, they're more than capable of handing out mass spam mods as needed.
I previously submitted an unposted story, which describes more concerns with the direction of the site: https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=43772 [soylentnews.org]. Lameness filters don't solve the problems, they just create challenges that a sufficiently persistent person can defeat.
I have subscribed in the past. If things improve, I will consider subscribing in the future. But I'm going to sit out subscribing this time because of the direction the site has taken in the past six months. I'm not the only person to voice these criticisms. Taking them seriously would lead me to consider perhaps subscribing in the future. On the other hand, more snide remarks like those I mentioned already will guarantee that I don't subscribe again.
(Score: 0, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Saturday December 26 2020, @12:35AM (5 children)
lol there were like 5 people impersonating creimer after he admitted to shitposting to draw people to his amazon account to sell more shit. I was indeed two of those. let's not forget my glorious ex coworker and the others who joined me to distribute gay porn with creimer's contact details all over hundreds of image sharing sites. glorious.
this is what that fucker deserved for spamming articles and taking them to offtopic discussion about his diet, in order to sell his shitty self-published books. hundreds of people were complaining, annoyed by him, and wanted him to stop spamming offtopic bullshit. he proudly told everyone to fuck off, and that he was somehow creating a rich paradise for himself by getting people to buy his shit. and btw, it drew enough attention to him that he was banned from the site. you anger the crowd you're in, they maul over you. justice served.
and then we got you, every couple of months complaining about how unfairly that fat asshole was treated. are you his butt-buddy? did big puma go limp after that incident and you miss nibbling on his neck tire? you're gonna be ok buddy. you'll find another fat bald white man to give you some winter lovin - just hand on little one.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @01:24AM (4 children)
So, let me get this straight, you were so bothered by creimer's spam that you felt the need to carry out a much larger spam campaign. You were so obsessed with creimer that you felt the need to spam Slashdot for months and make the comments virtually unreadable for anyone wishing to have a serious discussion. You and your buddies clearly have some serious mental health issues, given that you were willing to spam Slashdot and post obscene images claiming to be of him across multiple sites. The fact that you are still bragging about this shows that you're still a total loser. If you were willing to do that on Slashdot, it would be totally in character for you to impersonate people here [soylentnews.org], too. You didn't exactly deny that, either. Since you don't like it here anyway, how about you take your spam and your harassment, and GTFO.
(Score: 1, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Saturday December 26 2020, @03:33AM (3 children)
you got that backwards. every thread fatty creamer was on, he turned into a discussion about his shit life, and very openly admitted it was to draw attention to himself, so he gets "revenue streams" to his amazon page and gets sales. people kept getting more and more pissed off, bitching him out, making fun of him. He just kept going.
So after that, people had enough, and a bunch of us decided to get him off. first with the gay porn spread all over the web, then with the parody accounts. they weren't "impersonations" - they were very clearly not him. I don't deny making like 10 of the fag memes, I don't deny posting from two of those parody accounts - because i forgot the password to one and created another. there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, and it got the job done.
as far as months - yeah. I literally enjoyed shitting on that fucker and getting him off the site. about 80% of that entertainment for me was done while sitting on the toilet taking a shit. it was a fun time.
how about i take what you define as spam, i take away your little safespace, and i keep shitting down your open and ready mouth. how about you and anything you say doesn't matter and has zero weight.
I'm not nice, that's true, but if you picked a random internet site and decided people have to be nice to you there - no one gives a fuck what you think or decide. when someone says something wrong or dumb, it's perfectly fine to laugh at them. but that's not what i'm here for. that's just how i talk with no rules. what i am here for, is discussion of tech, and in many posts i bring over 20 years of industry experience at literally most of the fortune100 companies. and when the topic of a post isn't tech, then I entertain myself by making fun of shit. what you're here for is a friendly discussion about nothing. that's unfortunate for you - maybe you should start your own site where you make the rules.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @06:00AM (1 child)
The only thing impressive about that is your average employment being less than 144 days.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @01:03PM
Good enough to work, not good enough for benefits. Toss him out at 89!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @07:22PM
You are the type of person I would actively avoid in reality. Such self assured douchebaggery. Ya ya u dont care
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday December 26 2020, @03:51AM (1 child)
To trip that particular filter you'd have to be being a douchebag every bit as big as the asshat it was put in to slow down. It's not easily tripped.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @04:53AM
Nonsense. I attempted to reply and discuss the message text that triggered previously triggered the "douchebaggery quotient" filter. I received that exact lameness filter message and have sent another email to the admins. You can see the exact text that I say improperly triggered the filter. I stand by what I posted in my comment.
For anyone wondering, the text in question was a civil discussion of the election results and why Trump's allegations of voter fraud are wrong. I can't post it because the text is blocked, but I wasn't being a douchebag.
(Score: 1, Troll) by khallow on Saturday December 26 2020, @04:36AM (12 children)
I glanced over the complaint and am underwhelmed. First, there's the complaint about people "impersonating" others, "wishing harm on others", and spamming. Only the last of which seems a serious problem here.
What I've seen of impersonation is pretty innocuous. Something like "khallow 2.0" or "khallow sucks ass" which tries to feebly mock the original. Now if it were say "khalIow" which could in certain fonts look almost exactly the same, then we might be talking impersonating of an odious sort. But even then, I'd be more concerned about behavior than the name. If the impersonator keeps showing up in the threads of the original in such a way that the two are easily confused, then that's spam and would fall under the purview of category three. And it'd be easy to correct via administrative tools.
As to wishing harm on others, what exactly should SN do about that? For example [soylentnews.org]
What's the punishment here?
One of the problems with doing anything about the problems you just described. The power can be abused.
The lameness filter always existed - it came with the initial code. And that ability can be taken away by other administrators, if it is abused.
As to the aristarchus entries in the submission queue, you've already stated that administrators are relatively good at dealing with spam. Well, that happens to be what aristarchus entries are. It's a solved problem being solved. And what exactly is the problem with the junk you mentioned staying in the queue? Unless someone approves it, it's not going anywhere.
just because you claim there are "extremely inconsistent standards" doesn't make them so. The handling of aristarchus's spamming the submission queue has been answered cogently enough for me, a subscriber and I'm satisfied with the solution. Meanwhile, you're not a subscriber and haven't done anything to deserve that cogent answer you claim to want.
As to toxicity, aristarchus is one of the more toxic people on this site. Sorry, not going to buy your narrative when the only action you've proposed is to support the problem you claim to be concerned about.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @05:11AM (4 children)
That is 100% false. I have subscribed twice, both times paying $20 and gifting the subscriptions to other users. Since I've put my name on an email to the admins to report more lameness filter issues, they are also more than capable of verifying that I have, indeed, subscribed twice. Just because I'm an AC and choose to gift my subscriptions to other users does not mean that I haven't subscribed. I gifted one subscription to Knowledge Troll, the other to martyb.
The lameness filter that generates the "douchebaggery quotient" message did not come with the original code. Yes, there has been a lameness filter in Slash for at least a couple of decades. In fact, it's a variety of filters that detect certain types of abusive comments. In this case, new filters have been added to block some of APK's spam. The problem is that the filters aren't effective and cause more harm than good. In fact, APK has posted antisemitic spam as recently this month and can modify his comments to evade the filters. Meanwhile, there are false positives that block innocuous comments. Both Slashdot and SN have modified the filters since the code was forked. Slashdot apparently now blocks the word "Nazi" and that has the effect of stifling legitimate non-abusive discussion about Nazis.
The other filter I referenced was also discussed by Bot in his journal [soylentnews.org] and TMB explicitly acknowledged [soylentnews.org] that someone else was modifying the lameness filters.
The solution to the spam cannot be worse than the problem. I see Slashdot's extremely onerous lameness filter as the end result if more filters keep getting added to block undesired text. I do believe that SN is still better than Slashdot, which is why I still read and post here, but rarely read Slashdot now.
As I said, I think SN has headed in the wrong direction during the past six months, which is why I'm not subscribing this time. If things improve, I am open to reconsidering and purchasing another subscription in a future six month period. It's not personal, this is just my way of expressing my opinions to the editors. They're free to accept or reject any part of what I've said. They own the site and it's their right.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday December 26 2020, @11:59AM (3 children)
But I still read:
That makes it way other than 100% false.
Given that I haven't run across the SN lameness filter in ages (aside from occasionally forgetting to put in a subject), I'm not seeing the alleged problem here. There is lameness to be filtered after all and it works for me.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 27 2020, @01:33AM (2 children)
I purchased a gift subscription in August, basically four and a half months ago. I paid $20, which is the price for a one year subscription. That's the second one year subscription I purchased in 2020. The subscription I purchased in August is part of the running total on SN's front page toward this six month goal. Saying that's not current enough is absurd. It actually is 100% false to say I am not a subscriber.
In terms of the text that triggered the lameness filter, it seems I'll have to split it across two posts to get it to post. I attempted to post this election night. Here goes (1/2):
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 27 2020, @01:36AM (1 child)
And here's the rest (2/2):
Again, there's no valid reason that this text should trip the lameness filter. I've twice emailed SN about this, once last month, then again yesterday. It is still a problem. It is a false positive.
I strongly dispute TMB's claim that one must be as much of a douche as APK to trigger the filter. Apparently trying to have a civil discussion about the election also does so.
Yes, the text is out of date. I attempted to post it election night. However, if you merge the two parts of the comment together and attempt to post it, you can expect it will trip a lameness filter for some reason.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday December 27 2020, @10:52PM
:-) You said "Trump" too many times. Seeing his name so often can trigger epilepsy and nausea.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @05:28AM
Actually, come to think of it, I'm pretty sure I bought a subscription for Knowledge Troll back in February or March, right before he abandoned his account and started posting AC. It was right after COVID started surging in the US. And I bought a subscription for martyb right after one of JMH's conspiratorial rants that attacked him. So I'm pretty sure one of my $20 subscriptions is counted in the total on the front page. I do not regret purchasing either subscription. So I misremembered when I purchased the subscriptions.
And no, I'm not entitled to answers from the staff. Neither are you. Customers aren't entitled to control how management runs their business. We can express our concerns and our frustrations, but the managers and owners get to decide how to run their business. And customers can choose whether or not to continue giving their money to the business. TMB and martyb don't owe me answers. They can choose whether or not to provide those answers and I can choose whether or not to subscribe in the future. I'm not opposed to subscribing again, I just want to see things turn around.
To be honest, I'm concerned that the site is dying, given that the number of stories has been scaled back quite a bit and most of the discussion seems to take place in journals with political topics. I hope not. I don't have the means right now to volunteer and help things turn around. That would have a far greater impact than chipping in an extra $20 for the site, but I couldn't commit to that given my situation right now.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @07:25PM (5 children)
You are actually the most slyly toxic user here. You respond with 100% confidence you are right, even when proven wrong. It drags conversations into the gutter and promotes tribalism over reality. Same with TMB, but he is usually more of a troll problem.
(Score: 2, Touché) by khallow on Saturday December 26 2020, @10:49PM (4 children)
Which strangely enough, no one can ever be bothered to find examples for such. It's like Bigfoot sightings.
"We were on a hunting trip, drinking beer after midnight, when we saw a proven wrong khallow slither across the road in front of our headlights. Clear as day! Sure we were wasted and none of my friends saw it, but it happened, I swear!!!"
Also, I found that any lack of confidence was utterly wasted on people like you. It's just interpreted as weakness.
Those conversations, when they go that way, would have gone there anyway. The problem is not on my end.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 27 2020, @01:01AM (3 children)
Just engage with facts and don't put your personal ideology first bruh, tis easy
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday December 27 2020, @03:43AM (2 children)
Like?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 27 2020, @06:23PM (1 child)
Vlimate change and the need for regulation. Universal healyhcare and its proven record of better health outcomes for the pooulation while saving money.
You know, reality.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday December 28 2020, @11:44PM
You're stating subjects/opinions not facts.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Kell on Friday December 25 2020, @11:20PM (15 children)
I've been here since the very beginning (I've only got an account number in the high 200s because I'm based in Oz and was asleep when signups opened), so I have a bit of a perspective on this. The stories have always been a mix of interesting and kinda lame; same with the green site, same with every single other news site. No news aggregator can win: the exhortation to make the news more interesting is what leads to bullshit like clickbait and junk articles. I prefer SN's eclectic mix of stories that appeal to diverse interests to bullshit like Buzz Feed's. And don't forget, the submission queue also benefits from your submissions. Don't like it? Change it!
That said, the draw of SN isn't really really the news itself, so much as these discussions about the news. "Discuss" is what we're here for. It's a place where people of sometimes aggressively disparate viewpoints can debate (even intelligently!) and express opinions. The moderation tools function well enough to keep the peace so that a decent conversation can take place. An early rallying cry of SN and the wider Fuck Beta movement was "We are not an audience". Don't like it? Get involved!
SN is still my homepage and still a community I love.
Scientists ask questions. Engineers solve problems.
(Score: 0, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Saturday December 26 2020, @12:45AM (8 children)
this is one of the better communities, but connecting your point to mine: you see how there's a bunch of nonsense stories about nothing, with like 5 comments, and other normal ones with 40-100? how about half the day's page being filled with those 5 comment stories. there's nothing to discuss. and the thing is, there are plenty of good stories being submitted. they don't make it through, because it's easier for an "editor" to just approve 10 in a row from the same nature blog retard, than to actually read the titles and summary of all the other ones coming in.
here's an idea: for 1 week, let them replace the editors with a random number generator, and literally pick 20 stories per day at random all from different users, from the submission queue. I am almost positive the quality of stories would go up. then we can have a conversation about how to increase quality long-term. the first step is to show the "editing" job makes things worse than not doing it at all.
(Score: 4, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday December 26 2020, @03:35AM (5 children)
You don't dig how they're doing their job, by all means staff up and show them how it's done.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Saturday December 26 2020, @04:49AM (4 children)
Here's the thing: I don't - I have zero idea. All I see is the results, and they've changed in the last year for the worse. No, I don't want to staff up - I got my own work building enterprise SANs. I do have opinions which you are free to completely ignore, because, again, you run this, not me.
Literally, the result I am most interested in seeing is hacker news, without the power tripping incel mod deleting half the content. The quality and topics of articles there are great. Here, it used to be, now it's like freshly squeezed oj, glass half filled with tap water.
The fuckdot had this issue, and they tried having the community pick stories - firehose. badly done. but a good way would be to show the whole queue to the public, sorted by age, and have people upvote a story they want to see. whatever is the top story every hour gets posted that hour for discussion. and I'd actually donate quite a bit to have someone to write that code, or something that tries to fix this 2020 blandness. in a year you'll have to fight some fucker's upvote script, but that's a problem for future you.
the site is good. you're good ethical people. you're doing a shit job with the content this whole year. which again is only my opinion of what i want to read, and maybe the masses don't agree. what I do notice is comments of people complaining about good stories being rejected, and thinking - I'd rather see that right now, as I'm reading yet another bird article. And you guys always respond the same - it's a lot of work, we're doing our best in our spare time. Best in 2020 means "blindly accept a bunch of absolute shit from the same 4 people." If you're going to do that, just write a script to pick at random - it'll get better results.
but no, i don't want to spend my time as a spam filter for stories. i just want to read and discuss interesting shit, while being mean to people who are wrong. dats-all.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @05:34AM (3 children)
I'm the AC who said he wasn't subscribing again right now, and who condemned your harassment of creimer. I am calling bullshit on this. If your time is so limited, you could have avoided harassing creimer and spamming Slashdot for months. Your behavior probably contributed to Slashdot eliminating AC posting. Slashdot is worse off for your spamming. But you had ample time to do that.
Many stories don't get posted because the editors don't have time to go through and edit bot submissions that contain the full text of articles. If you had time to spam Slashdot, you have time to edit your own stories once in awhile and submit them to the queue. If users edit their own stories, it means there's less work for the editors, and they can post more stories. I've noticed that when I edit stories myself, editors tend to post them very quickly, and they jump ahead of many other submissions. If you think a particular story should be posted, edit it yourself, and it will probably be posted almost right away. You're not doing that, so I see no grounds for you to complain.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @07:54AM
Did I miss something?
Who the fuck is "creimer"? And how was he "harrassed? Explicit details, please, with graphic screen shots and audio, if available.
(Score: 2) by fliptop on Saturday December 26 2020, @01:32PM
I'll second that motion.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Sunday December 27 2020, @04:16AM
Egh, it's like I say, I have $5 for a burger, but I don't have $5 for a pack of gum. I tried submitting a few stories, they got rejected, it's not worth my time to throw shit at a wall. Your autistic brain makes up shit people say to make your case better. But that's something you should take pills for. I got a shitload of free time, but I'm certainly not spending it throwing shit at the wall.
so my creating 2 named accounts, and not once posting as AC is what made slashdot disable AC posting? there's that autism again. take your pills buddy, it'll make the voices stop.
I'm not complaining you daft dense idiot. I literally several times stated it's up to the people who run the site to do whatever they want. I answered a simple question posed by the OP - why not subscribe. It is you who for like a couple of years now, is fixated on some fat spammer at the green site that went to shit at beta and dice - years before that fat idiot started spamming it.
you absolute fucking doorknob. take your pills.
(Score: 5, Touché) by Phoenix666 on Saturday December 26 2020, @06:36AM (1 child)
If you don't put your own time, your own reputation, and your own neck on the line with your criticisms, then your intent is not to improve but to destroy. An honest critic would pony up his time to serve a term as an editor, to improve what he sees as deficient editing. But you don't. You only complain. That there is proof positive that you have no positive intent.
It's a common tactic used to destroy open communities such as this. Complain until the people of good will who built it and maintain it quit.
But here's why we can't let you succeed, and why we have to tell you to stuff it: if we stop having places like this where we can talk to people whose world views we find objectionable, then we have to fight for real. Moreover, I learn so much tech from people whose political views make my skin crawl. I suspect I'm not alone in that. When the partisan tide ebbs and people talk tech, I learn so much that helps me in my work and in the real world.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @04:18PM
And when it is said to them,
"Cause not disorders in the earth:"
they say,
"Nay, rather do we set them right."
Is it not that they are themselves
the authors of disorder?
But they perceive it not.
Qur'an 2:11-12 (Rodwell translation)
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Saturday December 26 2020, @06:43AM (5 children)
#292 is a fine number, and you should be proud of it. In the old days I was happy I had a user ID under 5 digits on /..
Amen. Seconded. The discussion is the secret sauce. Most other forums have fallen into various bubbles. This one remains an intoxicating elixir of pleasant and putrid, as most magical potions must be. If you don't swing between rapture and nausea then you're not in the right place for enlightenment.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday December 26 2020, @12:57PM (4 children)
Shorter and doesn't require references to magic.
BTW, try to not get intoxicated with alcohol while
posting on S/Neating a durian, you may end dead [smithsonianmag.com]BTW, does anyone knows anything about Ethanol-Fueled? He was shitposting on IRC... ummm... was it shorty after elections? This is how I remember.
Anyway, haven't felt his presence lately; if he did croak, I hope he happily succumbed to alcohol and not to covid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 27 2020, @02:27AM (3 children)
When Biden was declared a weiner by MSM, I figure EF headed to Montana, with all his survivalist gear. He's digging into a deep cave now, setting up claymores and other boobytraps everywhere. Biden doesn't like niggas who don't vote for him.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday December 27 2020, @05:29AM
Nonsense.
1. those niggas aren't true niggas (grin)
2. Biden being a weiner still makes him a hawt-dog. A huge step ahead from the small-hands-fitting-the-size-of-his-prick no brain orange asshole, who brought US to the brink (large subtle-ish grin)
3. EF is a self hating jew born to a mexican mother - I doubt the mongrel has any aptitude for survivalism much less the determination for digging caves during winter time, he'd rather defend himself emptying another bottle. And he'll need a special vehicle to carry his defensive stuff up the hill, more like a tanker than a tank (larger... oh, wait, this was serious... grin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 27 2020, @07:34PM (1 child)
Jesus you're going full Qtard? Runaway runaway dumbshit redneck, how does it feel being a traitor to democracy? Do we need to schedule a vet appointment to have your balls manually dropped? Maybe loosen that collar Trump put tound yer neck? Maybe it is the mushroom cock you've been gagging on depleting your oxygen flow.
Guess the world will never know what turned you into such a stupid sad shell of an American.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 27 2020, @07:46PM
It's funny watching you mental midgets snapping at the ankles of your superiors.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 25 2020, @11:57PM (15 children)
> and why yes, I am indeed a complete jackass.
Who regularly and strongly contributes to the degradation of this site. Perhaps you're trying to make a point by trolling.
I can solve your and the site's problem: leave.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Saturday December 26 2020, @12:38AM (14 children)
that's because you define degradation as "lack of niceness in my safe space" and you define trolling as "not being nice to me." why don't you fuck off to hacker news instead. this ain't your safe space, and I've been here since fuck beta and the dice bs, eventually creating an account and paying. you on the other hand - well it's nice that a random retard tells me to leave from a place that's not his. i'm kicking you out of your parents' house - you're not welcome there. fucking clown.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @01:29AM (1 child)
You'd definitely fit in better on 4chan or 8kun. But I suspect we'll be seeing a lot more of you here now, and probably a lot more spam/impersonation, now that Voat is shutting down.
(Score: 1, Redundant) by fakefuck39 on Saturday December 26 2020, @03:43AM
ah yes, clearly i'm a republican trump supporter. it's nice you think about where i fit in, without having read anything i've commented except this thread.
i did actually have an account on voat when i stopped reading reddit. then the trumptards came and i left.
I've been here about 5 years, although at the beginning i spent most of my time on pipedot. you?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @01:59AM (6 children)
So because you've been here so long, therefore you own it and it's your place to do as you please?
How about, you've been here stinking up the place long enough- time for you to leave.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Saturday December 26 2020, @03:46AM (5 children)
no retard. i do what i please here because it's an open website where random strangers from the internet can do as they please. that's the whole point. you want a nice safespace for yourself? then you start one. here, you don't get to define shit, nor do i. what you think should happen - talk to a wall, it'll be more productive. i swear it's like in the last year some kids from reddit came over here. how the fuck did you even find this place? if you're not old and grumpy, if you weren't writing c before java was created, you're not among your own on soylent buddy. which is perfectly fine, just expect to get shit on. shithead.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Saturday December 26 2020, @05:05AM (4 children)
Ouch, stop, uncle, you're so strong and mean. Fuck you asshole. You contradict yourself. Ever read what you write? So it's okay for you to complain and order people around, but it's not okay for me or others? Fuck you. You don't like it here, leave. You're a steaming pile, left behind by that mangy dog, feeding your own horseradish root.
(Score: 1, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Saturday December 26 2020, @05:13AM (3 children)
damn, feeding your own horseradish root. when a guy with velcro shoes and a bib tries to insult you. no retard, i don't read what i write. i write what i write. how did you know my uncle raped me? that was a private encounter between man and smaller man. the question is, why you enjoy watching a boy get fucked by a man. you should get some help with that urge.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Saturday December 26 2020, @05:16AM
Oh, I thought it was fake, like your entire existence.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @05:22AM (1 child)
> how did you know my uncle raped me?
Latent syphilis caused the brain rot you exhibit. Child could have diagnosed it.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Sunday December 27 2020, @03:43AM
first you're feeding horseradish root, now this "child could have diagnosed it." methinks if we were on a different site, you be chinaman with engrish not so good. since we're here, i'm gonna venture a guess: redneck with a truck who finished middle school and hasn't seen his balls in 20 years, with a fat bitchy wife who looks like a shaved bear. that about right there, vernacular-boy? the syphillis thing - well, no, your wife didn't cause my brain rot. that was avid amounts of cocaine and alcohol in my early 20s. getting raped by your uncle was unfortunate though. but hey, at least my uncle is not my dad.
(Score: 2, Touché) by fustakrakich on Saturday December 26 2020, @02:33AM (3 children)
Leave? Please don't! You're the life of the party.. ever since rDT and KT left (or did they really?) it was getting a bit dull.
Why don't you buy the place, and put in your own crew?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Saturday December 26 2020, @03:40AM (2 children)
the crew here is perfectly fine. very ethical people, with very dull lives, who run a great site. the issue is the editing, which has gone downhill. the problem lately, I thought I explained pretty clearly - the "editing."
(Score: 2, Informative) by fustakrakich on Saturday December 26 2020, @05:50AM (1 child)
The editing is done by the crew. And knows? Maybe they'll let you edit something
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday December 26 2020, @05:52AM
And who knows?...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Saturday December 26 2020, @06:45AM
You spend so much time denigrating this site. If you took a turn as editor or, heck, contributed worthy stories to the queue, then it would take a fraction of the time that you already do spend.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @03:17AM (3 children)
Let's review the story submissions for 2020 made by fakefuck39, shall we? It won't take long since there have only been two.
First we have this insightful gem:
get some extra screen space in firefox [soylentnews.org]
I think it speaks for itself why the editors chose to not run that as a front page story.
The remaining submission was:
Data corruption making it into enterprise SAN [soylentnews.org]
At least this one was a little bit more interesting. Unfortunately the submission makes a lot of unsubstantiated claims, and provides no proof or corroboration.
For example consider the following:
Unfortunately fakefuck39 provides no substantiation for this claim.
The rest of the submission is similar. For example:
The link is a vendor community page, not a vendor support portal or support ticket, and the topic is still open for discussion if anyone wants to reply.
A quick glance at the submission guidelines should be all you need to see why this story was rejected by the editors as well.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Saturday December 26 2020, @05:01AM (2 children)
if you need substantiation of the claim that you can't uniquely compress a 4k block to a 160bit sha1, you need to finish your highschool programming class, then come back and talk to us. since you clearly haven't worked for a company before, the community discussion forum is where you ask that. you cannot open a vendor support case asking them to redesign the storage array you just bought. you absolute highschool teenager who builds PCs.
you also seem to need substantiation of sha1 not having perfectly random distribution. seriously, I have to ask, what are you doing on a tech site? to put it in terms you understand, let's say you submit a story about milkshakes. you talk about how there are chocolate ones and vanilla ones, with different ratios of ice cream to milk. then some idiot asks you for the source of milkshakes having ice cream.
I gotta know - please do answer. are you at the mall right now? are you sitting at the mall with your friends with purple hair, in a black tshirt, waiting for the movie to start? or are you a completely daft older guy who has not written a line of code in their life, who looks at laptop specs from a catalog, so feels he's "IT" enough to comment on hashing functions and deduplication?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @05:19AM
> seriously, I have to ask, what are you doing on a tech site?
Learning, from MENTAL giants like you. Goals man!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @06:28AM
Wow. If only literally anyone else had thought of that. Surely not one of the designers would know a fact like that. Any hash table used anywhere is useless. This will surely take the world by storm. Decades of computer science down the drain.
(Score: 3, Funny) by maxwell demon on Friday December 25 2020, @09:50PM (22 children)
Wait, you could request for trhe site to crash? I'm glad you stopped that policy! ;-)
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 3, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday December 25 2020, @10:45PM (17 children)
It wasn't so much voluntarily as the odds just being really good.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Saturday December 26 2020, @12:53AM (16 children)
I remember when I put in any words in french/korean/russian, I'd get a weird page and the homepage wouldn't reload for like 5 min. I guess I know now what was going on. Then years later you told me you added unicode support as one of your first tasks - and it stopped doing that. Thanks for that пидер на лодке (google translate won't help you here, but enjoy your little boat).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @02:07AM (15 children)
Maybe not google, but DDG: "Fags on a boat".
(Score: 1, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Saturday December 26 2020, @03:22AM (14 children)
holy shit you kinda got it. remember the "i'm on a boat" video? buzztard likes to end every argument he's losing with "I win because I win at life - see I'm on this boat in the middle of the lake looking at the views, and that's how I define winning at life." he's actually a good ethical person, just a loser, by choice.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday December 26 2020, @03:38AM (12 children)
See, that's where you fail at life. Winning is achieving your ideal life. Not anyone else's idea of what that should be. I'm so close to mine right now that it complains when I eat garlic.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @03:53AM
"There are levels of existence we are prepared to accept." The Architect, of the Matrix, floating on a tiny boat, towed by a Toyota Echo (to give you some scale).
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Sunday December 27 2020, @04:00AM (10 children)
literally by your own definition I don't. winning my ideal life means traveling and seeing the world - at 41yo, I've lived in several countries and visited about 40. i've lived in several states and visited 49. it's my entire family being completely financially secure - as in pay off the parent's house, support my younger siblings while they get on their feet, repair my sister's house when it falls apart, send my nephew to a good school. it's getting lots and lots of sex with hot young girls so I could get that out of my system before settling down and getting married, and having a very large pool to select my wife from, so I could get exactly what I want. It's having an emergency fund of 10 years of living expenses if I can't work, and enough saved for retirement so I can live off the interest alone. It's helping people with charity and helping people in need get good jobs - I pissed away a good mil on that over the years. It's growing as a person by seeing the world and not thinking inside the box I was born in.
for you, it's fishing on a lake. and that's totally cool. what you don't get is when you claim "you win at life" - you only win at your own life. for a general statement like that, "life" is not your life - it's society's life. and at that, while being a good person, you lose. Which is perfectly fine, just your claim is clown-level stupid.
You defined your perfect life as the one you got now. But that's not life in general. That's just the little box you live in. Or for a better comparison, the well The Mighty Frog lives in.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 27 2020, @05:58AM (5 children)
Anyone up for creating SN login "dryhump39" to shadow this entitled jerk?
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Sunday December 27 2020, @11:15PM (4 children)
why not you? this way you can stop posting across a bunch of threads pretending to be different people, thinking i'm actually reading most of your replies. i love that meth house scene in breaking bad. are you enjoying digging that hole? what's funny is that fixation on shit that you got going on - that's a mental disorder and likely autism. it's something you literally have to live with till you die, or pop pills with nasty side effects daily. and there's zero you can do to change that and have a normal, enjoyable, rewarding life.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:59PM (3 children)
Same question to you re: editing. You don't have time to push even a story or three during your morning coffee? Or even hop on IRC and spend literally two seconds pasting a url to make a bot submission?
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Tuesday December 29 2020, @01:46PM (2 children)
Alright, look man, trust me, you don't want me here editing shit. I'm here to let out the toxic shit annoyances of the day build up, talk about tech and make fun of idiots. I would rather literally pay for you to hire a dev to build a presorting type spam filter so the editors you do want on your team have less work to do and can get some decent shit on the page like you used to have. do you really want a story starting with "fakefuck39 posts a story submitted by runaway?" that doesn't even look good on text.
and there are like 2-3 people here who just single me out because i made fun of them too much, and comment offtopic shit and downvoat every comment i make. this means if I submit a story, they're going to keep doing that in their ritalin-fueled focus session, and make the discussion about some slashdot spammer from 5 years ago, instead of the topic.
so really think about this. yes, I got a shitload of time - i've been laid off and just bumbling around europe w/ my wife. i got nothing to do but look at the black sea right now and buy beef at the farmer's market. but there's baggage here that comes with this account. it would be more productive, for you, to just get cash for development help. i know, materialistic shit. but it's about results you want, and shit costs money sometimes. not the really important shit, but this is "entertainment" shit, not important shit.
think a few days, then let me know. if you still want this, i'll give it a roll. but if it ruins the discussion, i'm out of the human spam filter business and no hard feelings.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31 2020, @03:48PM (1 child)
I'd hire you, as long as your spam filter removes all of your comments too. Starting with yours. And remembering you. Forever. And sells the filter data to all other blogs / boards. No, gives it away, free.
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Thursday December 31 2020, @04:06PM
I see, so you, a guy whose account karma is downvoted so low by the readers here, that you have to resort to AC just to write more than 4 comments per day, will hire me for this site whose readers prevent you from writing comments, to improve the comment quality of this site?
cool. buy the buzztard a $1000 subscription. this site, which upvotes me and downvotes you into oblivion, is always happy to gave your cash. If you do that, I guarantee I will not make fun of a single person here for a year, get my entertainment on techdirt instead.
deal?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday December 29 2020, @01:13PM (1 child)
I don't get/have to live anyone else's life, so of course it's only considering mine. Sounds to me like you have some serious issues with materialism and envy.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Tuesday December 29 2020, @01:37PM
yes yes, people who want to be secure and stable even if they can't work for health or other reasons, take care of their family and siblings and parents, be able to see the world and travel - they have serious issues with materialism. that's the explanation that's reasonable. because if it's not, you would be a complete loser at this life of yours. but you're a winner buddy, so it's got to be the materialism thing.
tell me, if you get cancer and are in bed for 10 years, eating up about 250k/year in finances, too sick to work and on meds. how are you, your kids, and your wife doing at that point? any younger siblings who haven't made it yet and are in debt, and need a helping hand - how are they doing now? how about you wake up and there's fire around you, and you can't walk or see again? you still enjoying that boat?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31 2020, @03:54PM (1 child)
If all of that first paragraph is true, I'm quite impressed. But you exude much ire, negativity, and unhappiness, so I'm sad for you. But maybe you vent it all out here, and you're otherwise happy? Or maybe you're building up your unhappiness here; maybe it's not therapeutic for you (or anyone else) but reinforcing the negativity?
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Thursday December 31 2020, @04:10PM
I'm here to be an asshole. I don't hide it - that's what anonymous internet forums are for, and it is helpful to have an outlet for that. You being sad or happy for me is irrelevant - your opinion on anything is irrelevant. You're confusing comments on an internet forum with talking to a group of people. They're not.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @07:36PM
Wow, someone toxic enough for me to take Buzzy's side?
Will wonders never cease
(Score: 2) by Tork on Friday December 25 2020, @10:45PM
I'm just glad they didn't take it all the way and switch the site over to VBulletin!
🏳️🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️🌈
(Score: 3, Funny) by martyb on Friday December 25 2020, @11:28PM (1 child)
Well not just any site. Only "trhe site"!
But seriously, thanks for (gently) requesting the correction! ;^) Story updated!
Wit is intellect, dancing.
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday December 26 2020, @10:20AM
Yeah, I noticed that typo right after submitting my comment. Comment not updated, for obvious reasons. :-)
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @02:33AM
> Wait, you could request for the site to crash? I'm glad you stopped that policy! ;-)
Me too.
The world was a simpler (and perhaps better?) place when the ITS crash system command was a useful feature:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incompatible_Timesharing_System#User_environment [wikipedia.org]
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 26 2020, @11:14AM
The Holiday is Christmas, you soy-infested faggot.
I also no longer subscribe. This site is more like the Green site by the day. I hope this plague takes you all!