We have no access to the servers any more. We can't fix things. There is no IRC - so you cannot submit things via the upstart bot. So...
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Can someone please return some sanity to the current situation? We are prepared to keep the site going until you have negotiated the future - just let us get on with today.
We will process the stories that are currently in the submission queue but they will become more out of date as time passes.
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(Score: 2, Informative) by replic8tor on Wednesday May 31, @06:17PM (13 children)
Hi kolie here I think linode did some maintenance.
I'm on discord not sure where other people migh tbe.
https://discord.gg/pwBFFgpx [discord.gg]
(Score: 4, Informative) by mechanicjay on Wednesday May 31, @06:27PM
My VMS box beat up your Windows box.
(Score: 1) by replic8tor on Wednesday May 31, @06:30PM
It'll be an hour or two for IRC to come back.
(Score: 2) by quietus on Wednesday May 31, @06:33PM (10 children)
Is there a maintenance notification?
(Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Wednesday May 31, @06:37PM
(Score: 4, Informative) by NCommander on Wednesday May 31, @07:43PM (8 children)
Linode did emergency work on the physical host while I was working on it last night (I was setting up new DNS entries for staging). I checked the box restarted before I went to sleep, but didn't notice that IRCd didn't come up with everything else.
Still always moving
(Score: 2) by quietus on Wednesday May 31, @08:24PM
Let's
(Score: 2) by quietus on Wednesday May 31, @08:30PM (6 children)
As per usual, Murphy is your one and only true friend, eh ;p
Relax and take your rest, mate: people who insist on communicating through text medium only *ought* to be a little patient.
(Score: 3, Funny) by kazzie on Thursday June 01, @06:31AM (5 children)
The people communicating through text medium are fine.
It's the people using TEXT LARGE all the time that are the problem.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday June 01, @07:32AM (4 children)
(Score: 2) by kazzie on Thursday June 01, @08:26AM (3 children)
Ah, but you hardly ever use caps lock!
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday June 01, @08:44AM (2 children)
I am frustrated by the current situation where I seem no longer to be trusted to do the job I was given. I apologise, and I will not do it again.
(Score: 2) by kazzie on Thursday June 01, @11:48AM (1 child)
Apologies: I'd been aiming for a general funny quip, and I'd completely missed the fact that you'd (suitably) used some upper-case text in the article above. It's only just dawned on me that it could be read as criticism or an attack on you. (That's why my previous reply had probably seemed a bit tone-deaf.)
I do wholeheartedly appreciate your hard work now and in the past, the awkward situation you're navigating us through, and the restraint you've shown in trying to deal with it.
Please take a moment to vent when you need to (in my direction if you want!), and here's hoping things get resolved soon.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by janrinok on Thursday June 01, @12:56PM
No problem - and no offence taken.
My actions were unnecessary, but they might have made it clearer to some that if the negotiations don't begin to show progress soon we could be losing community, staff and new volunteers over the coming days and weeks. Continuing to build something that is perpetuating what we already have seems a little misguided as he will not be here to benefit from it - or will he? Without a Perl programmer nothing will get updated so everything will just carry on as it is - with the code continuing to stagnate. It won't matter how quickly we can replicate it. We have qualified volunteers but nobody can do anything until we and they can get involved.
I would rather read what kolie/replica8tor intends to do, rather than wait for the outgoing lead to pick and choose his own terms while at the same time preventing the other staff from maintaining the site from day-to-day.
I will vent in the direction that I think is most appropriate, but thanks for your offer :-) I too hope it is sorted out soon, but fear that it will not be soon enough.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Wednesday May 31, @06:48PM (7 children)
I think now is a good time to leave a message to future me reading this SN page on archive.org. Sad though it is, it looks like the window of opportunity to do this is fast closing.
Thank you for everything SN! I genuinely enjoyed my time here.
(Score: 3, Informative) by RamiK on Wednesday May 31, @07:14PM (5 children)
I'm not sure about the time table but NCommander mentioned "migrating services one by one until we can fully decommission the current VMs" in his journal so I think you can put this down time under "scheduled maintenance" more or less: https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=55722 [soylentnews.org]
compiling...
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Wednesday May 31, @07:30PM (4 children)
Don't get me wrong: I desperately want SN to keep going, and I know everyone is working hard towards that goal. And also, just to be clear, I'm not complaining or being passive-aggressive. But from the point of view of this simple user, it really looks like the site will go silent any minute. I mean when the last resort for the team to communicate with one another is the main story page, that's what it screams to those who are not in the know.
(Score: 3, Informative) by NCommander on Wednesday May 31, @07:46PM (3 children)
Yeah, I'm aware of that. I didn't get any sort of message in my email or other communcation until 2PM EST, although I saw after I got on the site that janrirok ran two articles about it. I got up and went to do tasks before someone contacted me directly at which point I got the IRCd going again.
Still always moving
(Score: 3, Insightful) by janrinok on Thursday June 01, @11:27AM (2 children)
Can you explain why the Linode Advisory wasn't distributed as it normally would be?
Although we couldn't restart IRC we would have been able to warn the community of possible disruption before it actually happened. We would have activated the alternative IRC and directed the community to it before the work started.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday June 03, @06:25PM (1 child)
And a week later the reply is..... crickets
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday June 03, @06:25PM
er, I miscounted my days there.....
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Rich on Wednesday May 31, @11:55PM
I checked my journal entries on archive.org. They were spidered once, on May 23, 2003, a week ago, even for the old entries. Someone must have "tipped" archive.org off.
(Score: 5, Informative) by janrinok on Wednesday May 31, @07:45PM
Apparently Linode notified NCommander that there would be a site interruption. That was not passed on to anyone else on the team it seems.
The site went down, and recovered. But IRC was missing. We couldn't fix it because we are locked out. We had to get the assistance of Kolie to get action to bring it back up again.