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posted by on Friday August 25 2017, @11:26PM   Printer-friendly
from the we're-really-big-time-now dept.

Welcome, new trolls! We're pleased as punch to have you aboard, unfortunately as you may have noticed our moderators are unable to give you the moderations you've been working so hard for. Since we can't really do much about people not moderating more, we're going to be giving out more points so that the ones that do can give you the attention you so desperately crave.

Moderators: Starting a little after midnight UTC tonight, everyone will be getting ten points a day instead of five. The threshold for a mod-bomb, however, is going to remain at five. This change is not so you can pursue an agenda against registered users more effectively but so we can collectively handle the rather large uptick in anonymous trolling recently while still being able to have points remaining for upmodding quality comments. This is not an invitation to go wild downmodding; it's helping you to be able to stick to the "concentrate more on upmodding than downmodding" bit of the guidelines.

Also, this is not a heavily thought-out or permanent change. It is a quick, dirty adjustment that will be reviewed, tweaked, and likely changed before year's end. Questions? Comments?

 
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  • (Score: 2) by martyb on Saturday August 26 2017, @10:08PM (6 children)

    by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 26 2017, @10:08PM (#559598) Journal

    Since you mentioned the spam mod, I just re-read the moderation FAQ. The examples of garbage posts are the sort of thing I was in the habit of modding as just "troll". I guess I usually think of advertising as spam, and I don't recall if... that other site.. always had a spam mod. Very old habit.

    If marking as spam instead of just troll makes a difference, it might be worth it for others to re-read that section of the faq: " rel="url2html-15895">https://soylentnews.org/meta/faq.pl?op=moderation#spam

    Yes, I noticed that this morning when reviewing a spam mod.

    I disagreed with the spam moderation a particular comment. Wanted to point the one who did the moderation to the Spam Mod guidelines in the Moderation FAQ. So, I reread the FAQ. Saw that two of the examples given were actually pointing at comments that were not moderated as spam. :/ (Out of three: one was actually moderated as spam and two others were moderated as troll.)

    Located two other spam-modded comments and updated the FAQ to point to them.

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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday August 27 2017, @12:33AM (5 children)

    Bytram, most of those examples were around before the Spam moderation existed. There's no error there.

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    • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Sunday August 27 2017, @02:21PM

      by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Sunday August 27 2017, @02:21PM (#559847) Homepage Journal

      To be fair, our documentation should be up to date. I don't actively check the Spam mod logs, but if I see a comment marked Spam that isn't, I'll reverse it, and check the mod history of the user to determine if it's a misclick or abuse.

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    • (Score: 2) by martyb on Wednesday August 30 2017, @01:49PM (3 children)

      by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 30 2017, @01:49PM (#561495) Journal

      I respectfully disagree that the documentation was okay.

      I was specifically referring to the 'here' links which appear in the Examples part of the Spam Mod [soylentnews.org] section of the moderation FAQ.

      Here #1 *was* moderated as 'Troll', Here #2 *was* moderated as 'Flamebait', only the 3rd 'Here' was actually moderated as 'Spam'... not the best of examples.

      Old 1st 'here': https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?cid=123138&sid=5164 [soylentnews.org].

      Old 2nd 'here': https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=11580&cid=287626 [soylentnews.org].

      Side note: I could be mistaken, but it seems like I needed to escape ampersands when providing links using the template editor '&cid=1234' now needs to be coded as '&amp;cid=1234'

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      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday August 30 2017, @10:14PM (2 children)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday August 30 2017, @10:14PM (#561780) Homepage Journal

        What I am saying is that what the examples were moderated is irrelevant. There are several reasons a piece or chain of spam could be moderated other than Spam and still be a fine example. In the case of the examples it was because they existed before anyone could moderate them Spam, unless I'm badly mistaken.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05 2017, @06:37AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05 2017, @06:37AM (#563672)

          If there aren't enough examples that have actually been moderated as spam, that's very telling.