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posted by on Monday December 18 2017, @08:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the stupid-blue-bird dept.

So, apparently around November 5th we stopped posting to Twitter. We didn't find out until around the end of that month and when we did nobody had the time and/or ability to look into why until this past week.

Now how we get our headlines over to Twitter is overly complicated and, frankly, idiotic. It's done by one of our IRC bots pulling headlines from the RSS feed and posting them on Twitter as @SoylentNews. The bot was written back in 2014 with hand-rolled (as opposed to installed via package manager) Python libraries and hasn't been updated since. This was breakage that should absolutely have been expected to happen. Twitter's penchant for arbitrarily changing their unversioned API means you either keep on top of changes or expect things to break for no apparent reason.

Here's the question: do we even care? We can either find someone who's willing to rewrite the bot to a new Twitter library, do it the sane way as either a cron or slashd job, or just say to hell with it since we only have two hundred or so followers on Twitter anyway. What say you, folks?


[TMB Note]: Twitter's who-to-follow algorithms really impressed me this morning when I logged in to manually post this story. How did they know we were all huge @JustinBieber and @BarackObama fans?


[Update]: We're again annoying Twitter users by spreading relative intelligence across their platform of choice. Credit goes to Crash for wisely pointing out that we don't have to code everything ourselves.

 
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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Snotnose on Monday December 18 2017, @12:19PM (19 children)

    by Snotnose (1623) on Monday December 18 2017, @12:19PM (#611349)

    No twitter, no facebook, no instagram, no pinterest, no social media at all. Don't plan to ever get any either.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by WizardFusion on Monday December 18 2017, @12:39PM (5 children)

    by WizardFusion (498) on Monday December 18 2017, @12:39PM (#611359) Journal

    I'm with this guy (gal).

    If none of the 200 followers have noticed, then just leave it.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by zocalo on Monday December 18 2017, @01:06PM

      by zocalo (302) on Monday December 18 2017, @01:06PM (#611367)
      I don't use it either, which doesn't appear to be all that unusual given "200 followers". We currently have in the region of seven thousand accounts based on highest UID I could find in the current poll (give or take any gaps / higher UIDs that haven't commented), so it seems that less than 3% of Soylent accounts are following Twitter - and they either didn't notice or didn't care. Pretty compelling argument for taking the code on a one way trip to behind the woodshed, IMHO.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 18 2017, @03:16PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 18 2017, @03:16PM (#611414)

      I'm with this guy (gal).

      Joke's on you. Snot nose is a thing - filled with stuff.

      • (Score: 4, Funny) by DannyB on Monday December 18 2017, @07:10PM (1 child)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 18 2017, @07:10PM (#611532) Journal

        When an elephant sprays with its nose, people think it is water. But itsnot.

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        • (Score: 3, Informative) by JNCF on Monday December 18 2017, @08:09PM

          by JNCF (4317) on Monday December 18 2017, @08:09PM (#611551) Journal

          DannyB, Anonymous Coward, and WizardFusion are all describing different aspects of the same Snotnose.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 18 2017, @03:54PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 18 2017, @03:54PM (#611429)

      I agree that it doesn't seem necessary to continue with whatever you were doing on Twitter, especially if the staff here didn't notice it was not working right for some time, and that further, there didn't seem to be any discussion here about the problems of social network APIs that caused the issues that upset services that regular Soylenters depended on.

      I didn't even know you posted to Twitter, and if you had other social media activities, I don't know about those, either. I expect there are a lot of people here that use more services than me, but it still seems like no one noticed.

      There's no reason to be entirely against social media activity, though--this forum is a social network, and really it is best to remain pragmatic about this. I recognize you have to reach an audience, if only to draw them here and hope they become regulars in the audience I am a part of. There are times when the word of the user's mouth is not always enough... I couldn't tell you if any of my friends or associates come here, but we all use pseudonyms we have not shared with each other.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by inertnet on Monday December 18 2017, @01:15PM

    by inertnet (4071) on Monday December 18 2017, @01:15PM (#611372) Journal

    Me too, besides Twitter should be dead soon: "We believe in freedom of expression and open dialogue, but": https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/twitter-rules [twitter.com]

  • (Score: 1) by noneof_theabove on Monday December 18 2017, @01:46PM (5 children)

    by noneof_theabove (6189) on Monday December 18 2017, @01:46PM (#611378)

    I allow people to address me properly as Mr. Anti Social.
    As a believer of "scientific philosophy", all things are a tool to get from point A to B.
    I did not have kids, or acquired any, in my 60+ years, so I have no need for any of that.
    Not to mention as a programmer, exposing myself and personal information for no real benefit.

    SN needs to evaluate their standing and from the facts presented, time and energy would be better served somewhere else.

    Not to say a different venue might be worth the effort.

    As far as Twitter, from the movie War Games, "the only winning move is not to play."

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by cubancigar11 on Monday December 18 2017, @05:29PM (4 children)

      by cubancigar11 (330) on Monday December 18 2017, @05:29PM (#611479) Homepage Journal

      That's what I thought when I delete bitcoin mining software in 2008 from my computer.

      • (Score: 2) by frojack on Monday December 18 2017, @09:40PM (3 children)

        by frojack (1554) on Monday December 18 2017, @09:40PM (#611581) Journal

        Do you know anyone besides twitter that ever made a nickle on twitter?

        Seriously: non sequitur !

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        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 19 2017, @05:55AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 19 2017, @05:55AM (#611727)

          > Do you know anyone besides twitter that ever made a nickle on twitter?

          What do you mean, "besides" Twitter? AFAIK, Twitter has yet to show *any* profit.

        • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Tuesday December 19 2017, @07:00AM

          by cubancigar11 (330) on Tuesday December 19 2017, @07:00AM (#611735) Homepage Journal

          Hey hey, I wasn't defending Twitter. Just sharing my misery :(

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 19 2017, @10:54AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 19 2017, @10:54AM (#611767)

          Whoever provides Twitter with bandwidth, I guess.

  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday December 18 2017, @07:09PM

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 18 2017, @07:09PM (#611531) Journal

    No twitter, no facebook, no instagram, no pinterest, no social media at all. Don't plan to ever get any either.

    Ditto.

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  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday December 18 2017, @09:23PM (1 child)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday December 18 2017, @09:23PM (#611573)

    Linkedin?

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 18 2017, @11:29PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 18 2017, @11:29PM (#611632)

      Nah they only post on soylentnews. You know a social media platform. Using code based on one of the early web social media platforms... They never use it.

  • (Score: 2) by PinkyGigglebrain on Monday December 18 2017, @09:37PM

    by PinkyGigglebrain (4458) on Monday December 18 2017, @09:37PM (#611579)

    Ditto, I'm not a product for some social media company.

    As another poster pointed out if nobody even noticed it was broken for over a month then nobody is paying attention to the feed anyway so why bother having it?

    The focus should be on maintaining and updating Soylent.org itself, worrying about a twitter feed no one seems to care about is just wasted effort.

    My ¥2

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  • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Monday December 18 2017, @09:48PM

    by Gaaark (41) on Monday December 18 2017, @09:48PM (#611588) Journal

    I'm with Needsakleenex

    I don't twit, facepalm, instabate...nothing.
    I don't even gab.ai...i found I did not need it ( not being a Kardashian).

    Nope, nope, nope!

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by legont on Tuesday December 19 2017, @01:21AM

    by legont (4179) on Tuesday December 19 2017, @01:21AM (#611666)

    Agree - they are all evil.

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