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I was going to post this to a particular story, but thought this might generate more attention and discussion as a general submission.
Seriously, what is going on with all these troll mods? Just because you disagree with someone, thus earning a "disagree" mod, does not mean that person is a "troll." To steal a definition from Urban Dictionary:
An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.
Just because you disagree with someone, does not mean they are trying to do the above. Be faster on the "disagree" and slower on the "troll." Under such abuse, it is hard to have a good discussion and, in itself, is trollish behavior by "generally disrupt[ing] normal on-topic discussion." Other than people disciplining themselves, a concerted effort to police such abuses, or making moderation logs public on the bottom of a comment where the score is shown now, I'm unsure of what to do about. As it stands, it is getting increasingly ridiculous to read what discussion is here on any topic remotely controversial, and is expanding outside of even those. It is starting to drive me away from the site, and I'm somewhat confident it is doing the same for others. I'd be interested to see what others think about the depth of the problem, if they even believe it even exists at all, and what solutions you all have for it.
[Ed note. This story is published exactly as received. First off, it bears repeating that complaining about moderations in the comments often leads (rightly) to an off-topic moderation. That is a contributing factor to my decision to run this story. Secondly, moderation is something that I on occasion have found I've fat-fingered and given a different moderation than expected. Thirdly, in the grand scheme of things, a comment's moderation is — relatively speaking — small potatoes. It is NOT a measure of your IQ or value as a human being. or standing in the community. Just accept that stuff happens and that as likely as not, someone will be along to moderate it the other way. Which is a good opportunity to say: PLEASE USE YOUR MOD POINTS! Lastly, if you think a comment was moderated in error, then send the CID (Comment ID) link e.g. "(#876543)" in an email to admin (at) soylentnews (dot) org. Keep in mind however that we are all volunteers here and there most likely will be a delay between when you send out an email and when we can get around to it. --martyb]
[Updated: 20190823_111312 UTC See comment from JR who far more precisely and eloquently expressed the idea I was attempting to. I concur with his assessment. If I want people to upmod a comment of mine that I believe was unfairly downmodded, then I need to be willing to upmod other's mis-modded comments. For perspective, so far this month, anywhere from ~150-~350 mod points were used in any given day. It bears repeating: use your mod points!]
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 23 2019, @01:34PM (4 children)
That's something the ctrl-left cannot stomach. They strive to be so righteous (in their minds), that if you have a contrary opinion, you must be an evil fascist racist denying oppressor who must be silenced for the good of humanity itself.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 23 2019, @02:51PM (3 children)
Right on queue. No one called for censorship but everyone should stand up to your nonsense instead of letting it fester in the open.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday August 23 2019, @04:00PM (2 children)
He didn't say "censorship", that was all you. Punishment would fit his statement just as well and punishment it most certainly is.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 23 2019, @09:37PM (1 child)
Their statement: "if you have a contrary opinion, you [...] must be silenced [...]."
vs.
Definition of censorship: "Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or 'inconvenient.'"
Whether you are directly blocking someone from publishing something or punishing someone for doing so, you are still suppressing their speech. Would you consider the infamous trial against Socrates censorship, or do you consider censorship a modern invention?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday August 24 2019, @12:17AM
Don't play semantics with me, Sonny Jim. You know perfectly well he had "downmodding is not censorship, you can still view it if you want" in his pocket and ready to go. You're not fooling anyone.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.