Anonymous Coward writes:
I was going to post this to a particular story, but thought this might generate more attention and discussion as a general submission.
Seriously, what is going on with all these troll mods? Just because you disagree with someone, thus earning a "disagree" mod, does not mean that person is a "troll." To steal a definition from Urban Dictionary:
An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.
Just because you disagree with someone, does not mean they are trying to do the above. Be faster on the "disagree" and slower on the "troll." Under such abuse, it is hard to have a good discussion and, in itself, is trollish behavior by "generally disrupt[ing] normal on-topic discussion." Other than people disciplining themselves, a concerted effort to police such abuses, or making moderation logs public on the bottom of a comment where the score is shown now, I'm unsure of what to do about. As it stands, it is getting increasingly ridiculous to read what discussion is here on any topic remotely controversial, and is expanding outside of even those. It is starting to drive me away from the site, and I'm somewhat confident it is doing the same for others. I'd be interested to see what others think about the depth of the problem, if they even believe it even exists at all, and what solutions you all have for it.
[Ed note. This story is published exactly as received. First off, it bears repeating that complaining about moderations in the comments often leads (rightly) to an off-topic moderation. That is a contributing factor to my decision to run this story. Secondly, moderation is something that I on occasion have found I've fat-fingered and given a different moderation than expected. Thirdly, in the grand scheme of things, a comment's moderation is — relatively speaking — small potatoes. It is NOT a measure of your IQ or value as a human being. or standing in the community. Just accept that stuff happens and that as likely as not, someone will be along to moderate it the other way. Which is a good opportunity to say: PLEASE USE YOUR MOD POINTS! Lastly, if you think a comment was moderated in error, then send the CID (Comment ID) link e.g. "(#876543)" in an email to admin (at) soylentnews (dot) org. Keep in mind however that we are all volunteers here and there most likely will be a delay between when you send out an email and when we can get around to it. --martyb]
[Updated: 20190823_111312 UTC See comment from JR who far more precisely and eloquently expressed the idea I was attempting to. I concur with his assessment. If I want people to upmod a comment of mine that I believe was unfairly downmodded, then I need to be willing to upmod other's mis-modded comments. For perspective, so far this month, anywhere from ~150-~350 mod points were used in any given day. It bears repeating: use your mod points!]
And now we have the classic Zerg Rush problem, the Ur-example of K-type vs r-type strategizing: it's easier for a Zerg swarm to do their thing, on a unit by unit basis, than the more K-type Terrans or Protoss. There's not enough time or interest to counter with a well-reasoned, well-thought-out response every time you or one of your fellow-travelers decides to shit on the rug for laughs.
And I think you know this, and are being disingenuous as hell here.
Eat a dick. You know perfectly well why we don't play god with moderations on staff. It's been discussed openly so many times that I'm actually a little sick of hearing myself talk about it.
You haven't answered her question. What does GOD need with a Starship? [youtube.com] And after The Mortiarity Broussard so blatantly intervened in a God-like fashion on the Original Aristarchus Alt-Right Submission, lo these many years ago? And you are sick of hearing about your editorial interference and right wing bias, you gulper of offal? Please, recluse your self from the discussion. That pissant Trump Attorney General had the guts to do it.
My voice holds no more weight in #editorial than anyone else's, ari; I'm not in the editorial hierarchy at all. The only stories I have any more say in than anyone with a good argument does are Meta stories. You should try that sometime, by the way. Having a good argument that is. It's more deeply satisfying than witty trolling.