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posted by on Thursday September 03 2020, @08:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the silver-linings dept.

The Mighty Buzzard writes:

Congrats to the wannabe APK noobtard for advancing the site's codebase despite me having extremely limited time to play. I added three lines of code and now Spam modded comments (and comment trees) auto-collapse and you can still moderate a comment as Spam even if it's already at the minimum score. Honestly, the folks using any other downmod on obvious Spam annoy me more than the noobtard does but that annoyance at least is now history. Changes are to hot code only, I'll put them in the repo as part of my next pull request.

Suck it, noob. --TMB

 
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  • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Saturday September 05 2020, @08:06PM

    by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 05 2020, @08:06PM (#1046947) Journal

    I had no intention of putting words in your mouth. I interpreted "viewpoint based moderation" to mean that people are modding based on whether they agree or disagree with something rather than the quality of the comment. When it comes to political articles, that can be a real issue. Let me just say I apologize because you intended something different, but that my interpretation was made in good faith.

    No you got that bit completely correct ;-) It was the bit agreeing with me on restricting mod points. I puzzled for a second when I saw that, but just figured it was a minor misread or I said something poorly (common if I revise my thoughts mid compose), it wasn't significant to the conversation anyway and so I didn't give it another thought until Ari quoted and went after it. I didn't take it in any negative way whatsoever and did not mean to imply any intent.

    As for ari's objection, reducing the amount of mod points assigned to users should affect right wing and left wing posters evenly. It doesn't quite follow logically how it should target one side versus the other.

    /Nod.
    I didn't address that either way - my thinking was that the suppressive functionality of metamod would amplify majority views over minority ones in a small population.

    I'll go so far to say that I think his submissions are often rejected on the basis of the user submitting them rather than the actual quality of the content.

    I suspect there is some truth to that, but more in that they have developed expectations rather than it being some intentional slight.
     
    If there is a sub from Ari you can expect it to have certain recurring characteristics that make it unsuitable or at least that would cause it to require a significant amount of effort to make an acceptable article. Contrariwise the eds may be so sensitized to him doing the squeaky wheel thing that they give his posts more consideration than they are due trying to avoid it.
     
    I've come to the conclusion that a lot of subs by Ari (and several other political article submitters) aren't really expected to reach the front page, they're just some sort of stick it in the queue in hopes of increasing visibility type of statement.
     
    (DISCLAIMER - I'm not an editor and I don't play one on TV, but I write-up and submit when I can)
    IMO it isn't particularly difficult to figure out what has a good chance of being accepted and what doesn't. To wit:
     
      - The editors are overworked volunteers. If they can read a topical sub over once and check the links and post it as is, that's gold. The less revision, the better the odds.
     
    So what is needed to get something posted as is/with minimal revision? There is a write up [soylentnews.org] about this, but these are some points folks miss (or just bear repeating):
     
      - This isn't a political site.
          You can get a political article in now and then, particularly if it has a geek angle, but it's much harder.
          I once read an IRC by one editor that they try to limit political articles to ~1/day. (Limited slots, lots of competition, stick with the nerd stuff!)
     
      - Try to avoid Fox News, Breitbart and other source sites that are controversial to a center-left audience just because of the source (not the content) of the article.
     
      - If the write up is slanted - the editors have to rewrite it. The longer it takes to whip a sub into shape, the worse the odds it will happen. Steal the NPOV concept from Wikipedia for write ups.
     
      - A fully written up sub will have the best odds, and even better when the accepted articles queue is nearly empty, or eds are trying to get articles queued up so they can enjoy the weekend, or some editors are down (sick, vacation, rocking back and forth in their safe space, whatever)

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