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posted by martyb on Wednesday January 05 2022, @06:54PM   Printer-friendly
from the it's-nice-to-be-nice dept.
[UPDATE: 2022-01-05 20:48:08 UTC]
We are aware there are some issues (dead links) where indicated by links to "here" in the story. It seems to be a long-dormant bug in the code. Will address this issue when addressing any other issues raised here. In the meantime, try using the links that appear in the liked-to article, directly, at: ( https://soylentnews.org/faq.pl?op=moderation#spam . Yes, we are aware that those are not the best examples and we are aware that those examples may need to be updated to point to better ones. --martyb

I've been made aware of some discussions about the permitted use of the "Spam" moderation. This has spawned a great deal of discussion among Soylent staff.

What's The Point?
The whole purpose of comment moderation is for an (early) reader of a comment is to provide guidance to later readers. Like "breaking trail" for others when hiking through deep snow. The "Trail breaker" makes it eaier to navigate the path for those who follow. Before we dive into the Spam, it is important to note that it is encouraged to "upmod" more than one "downmods". I receive an e-mail each day that includes the number of each that were performed on the preceding day. I am happy to report that I generally see 2x to 4x more upmods than downmods! YAY!

Where to start?
Start at the at the top of the Left-Hand side of the Main page. There one can find a link to the FAQ. Click that link and scroll down to the link about our Moderation System. Click that link. Located there is a list of items including one on the Spam Mod.

There it states:

Spam Mod

The spam moderation (spam mod) is to be used only on comments that genuinely qualify as spam. Spam is unsolicited advertisement, undesired and offtopic filth, or possibly illegal in general. Spam can come in many forms, but it differs from a troll comment in that it will have absolutely no substance, is completely undesired, is detrimental to the site, or worse.

The spam mod is special in that is removes 10 Karma points from the user that posted the comment. This mod is meant to combat spam and not to be used to punish commenters (when in doubt, don't use this mod). Our goal is to put a spammer in Karma Hell and for them to not be able to get out of it easily. As we do not want this used against non-spamers, we monitor all spam mods to make sure moderators are not abusing the spam mod. If we find a moderator that unfairly applied the spam mod, we remove the mod giving the poster back the Karma points, and the modder is banned from modding for one month. Further bans to the same modder add increasing amounts of ban time. If you inadvertently applied a spam mod, mail the admin and we will remove the spam mod without banning you. Even though we have updated the interface to physically separate the spam mod from the other mods, unintentional modding may still be an unfortunate occurrence.

Examples

If you are unsure of whether a comment is spam or not, don't use the spam mod. Here are some examples of spam:

  • Proper spam. Anything whose primary purpose is advertisement (unless somehow relevant to the discussion/article).
  • HOSTS/GNAA/etc... type posts. Recurring, useless annoyances we're all familiar with.
  • Posts so offtopic and lacking value to even be a troll that they can't be called anything else. See here, here or here for example.
  • Repeating the same thing over and over. This includes blockquoting entire comments without adding anything substantial to them.

These examples cannot cover every type of Spam that you might encounter. Please exercise common sense. We expect all comments to be on-topic or following a clearly defined thread that has developed as part of the discussion. Raising personal complaints or starting completely new discussions unrelated to the main story are certainly off-topic and also possibly trolling. Remember: if in doubt do not use the Spam moderation.

"Sock Mods" and "Mod Bombs":
You may ask: "What's that?". Simply stated, when a logged-in-user, uses one (or more) account(s) to "updmod" other account(s) in unison. This is similar to using other account(s) to "Downmod" one (or more) account(s) in unison. Both practices are Forbidden. As always, when such activity is discovered, Admins notice and discuss it to confirm the observation with other admins. Actions taken can range from a ban on moderations (for increasing durations for repeat offenders) to an outright ban on use of the accounts(s). We have observed such activity happening recently and are preparing to take action. Similarly, when several accounts can be shown to have repeatedly cooperated to prevent someone from expressing their opinion or have given other accounts an unfair advantage then that can also be a form of 'bombing'. My advice is: stop right now. We do not like taking such actions, but it would be unfair to those who DO follow the rules for us to ignore such activities.

Summary:
(1) simply follow Wheaton's Law:

Don't Be a Dick

(2) "Say what you mean, mean what you say, but don't say it mean."

 
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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 05 2022, @10:11PM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 05 2022, @10:11PM (#1210310)

    Being a Trump supporter is automatically racist, while endorsing CRT is not. It's not just slippery, it's a slimy slope.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 05 2022, @11:39PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 05 2022, @11:39PM (#1210344)

    Trump is very racist, so yes supporting him means at the least you are fine supporting racists, at least if you're not vocal about disliking the racist side of your chosen politician. Like how Biden is an old racist with many negative qualities, but supporting him over the Grand Old Phascists took priority. CRT is not racist, you're just an uneducated boob that thinks Plucker Fartelson is a valuable source of news and insight. Reminder: all Fox staff have been vaccinated and their legal team argued they couldn't be sued because no reasonable person would believe Mucker Buttleson

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 05 2022, @11:49PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 05 2022, @11:49PM (#1210348)

      Community college should help with your atrocious reading comprehension. Webster should help with your vocabulary. On the spectrum of racism, Trump is no Nelson Mandela, but he's nowhere near Democrat racists who work constantly to keep the darkies on the plantation.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @12:02AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @12:02AM (#1210358)

      If Trump is racist, why did he get **more** black and Hispanic votes during his **re-election** run? Are those blacks and Hispanics just stupid?

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 06 2022, @12:06AM (1 child)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 06 2022, @12:06AM (#1210360) Homepage Journal

        Well, yes, of course. Everyone is stupid, unless they toe the party line. The DNC tolerates no opposition. Feel the Bern?

        --
        "no more than 8 bullets in a round" - Joe Biden
        • (Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Thursday January 06 2022, @06:45PM

          by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 06 2022, @06:45PM (#1210597)

          Everyone is stupid ,unless they toe the party line.

          FTFY. Some are just more so than others.

          --
          Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @03:22AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @03:22AM (#1210411)

        There are lies, damned lies, and then you.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @04:46AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @04:46AM (#1210438)

        Of course they're not stupid, poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.
        But they are definitely racist, and also ain't black.

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @12:10AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @12:10AM (#1210362)

      Half of you idiots wouldn't recognize racism if it crawled up your ass and ate your brain out. It's just a catchword you've learned from CNN and their ilk, so you parrot it back at every opportunity.

      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @03:29AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @03:29AM (#1210415)

        Poor racists, so mad people just won't stop pointing out your racist bullshit. Denying simple facts just makes you look extra dumb, and you really don't need the help.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 07 2022, @08:02PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 07 2022, @08:02PM (#1210933)

          You were trained by the enemy of your race to think "racism" (anything that doesn't end in Whites not existing) is evil and now you think you are virtuous by fighting it. In fact, you're just a brainwashed Shabbos Goy slave and a race traitor.

          Or a non-white parasite, dependent or invader who thinks they are a victim, while their whole world was imagined, engineered and built by Whites. The clothes you wear, the food you eat, the house you live in and the tech you use to whine online. You are like a pitiful orphan child or stray dog.