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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @08:01AM (57 children)
Arthur T. Knackerbracket (the bot, or so I assumed)? If his decommissioning was announced, I missed it, sorry.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by janrinok on Wednesday May 18 2022, @08:25AM (56 children)
The editors are very busy and are being criticised for the stories that they are publishing. Yes, I know, that criticism goes with the job. However, it is the community's role to provide the submissions and it would aid us considerably if they would contribute. We provide feeds of links to hundreds of potential stories a day, and have made the submission job as simple as possible using 'upstart'. Choose those that you want to discuss and submit them please.
There are currently 3 active editors - 2 of whom have jobs, families and other responsibilities. I am currently giving between 3 and 4 hours a day and I cannot continue to maintain this rate.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @10:59AM (44 children)
Solution is simple, publish better stories! Would help is the eds did not reject all the interesting stuff in favor of retro computing and boomer hypochondriac stuff. And, maybe if we had more aristarchus submissions? Just saying.
aristarchus.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by janrinok on Wednesday May 18 2022, @12:24PM (43 children)
So your solution would be to have more political rants? You mean, the sort in the journals each weekend that deteriorate into throwing insults and contain very little intelligent discussion at all. They are the very thing driving people away. No, it isn't going to happen.
You had a 13% acceptance rate for your submissions - I don't think you are the one who should be giving others any advice.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday May 18 2022, @03:23PM (8 children)
Talking shit to the people submitting stories, on the other hand, is going swimmingly!
Maybe you should check the rejected pile, I heard there's some gems in there! And I keep my political flamebait in my journal already thankyouverymuch.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday May 18 2022, @05:32PM (7 children)
By the time we received and processed your last submission it had already been covered by the green site and was being widely shown on sites such as imgur.com, acidcows.com etc.
That is just the way it goes sometimes. Submissions are not rejected by a single editor.
(Score: 5, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday May 18 2022, @05:41PM
It's the deflection that bothers me, not my submission acceptance rate.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @07:47PM (4 children)
When you reject good, high-quality stories like that one, some of hubie's stories, a story [soylentnews.org] about a serious vulnerability in some of Intel's datacenter products, a story [soylentnews.org] about the architecture of future space stations, a story [soylentnews.org] about the drawbacks of pig-human organ transplants and ethical issues, and other high quality stories, sometimes you end up with a shortage of stories in the queue. That is just the way it goes sometimes. You're right that editors don't get paid for their work. Neither do members of the community. We also provide contributions for free.
As a member of the community, whinging about a lack of stories on the front page comes across in a particularly bad way after the editors rejected many recent high-quality stories by the community. I interpret it as a lack of gratitude for the work the community has already done for free, saying it's not good enough, then requesting more free work.
I'm all for rejecting political stories, aristarchus spam, and other low-quality nonsense. But there were several good STEM-related stories that were submitted and rejected. Maybe you didn't mean to come across this way, but your comments feel like a slap in the face to the community. I suspect that might be why other people like DeathMonkey aren't reacting kindly to this either.
(Score: 5, Informative) by hubie on Wednesday May 18 2022, @11:13PM (3 children)
I've recently submitted more stories than can be reasonably published, and I'm fine with that. Any of the ones that don't get published, I'll put in my journal. I try to find stories that I think will generate some conversation or that I find to be personally interesting and that others might not know about, but I'm not bothered by whether they get published or not. You want to strike a balance with stories so that they aren't all off the NASA feed or whatever, and I know that my stories don't span the range of interests that cover this site. I would bet this need to request stories is partly my fault in that the queue had gotten fairly low at one point and I submitted a whole bunch of stories on the same day or two, and it seems the remaining ones all timed out at the same time and the queue took a bigger than normal drop. Since then I have paced out when I submit stories to keep that from happening again.
Having recently become an editor myself, I can fully appreciate being on the other side of the subs queue. Being an editor seems to be a lot like being a sports referee in that you do the best that you can and people are going to be upset with you. It is a job, again like a referee I suppose, where you are much more prone to hear the complaints than the accolades, even if the accolades are out there. There are only a few editors and we get on when we can, look at the status of the release queue and what is currently sitting there. There's a number of factors that go into how something gets turned into a story, which are all mainly practical. I'll comment on a few that go into my thinking, which again is based only upon my own very limited experience and I'm sure the other editors have their own approach. If the release queue is filled going out a decent amount into the future, like more than a day ahead, there isn't a lot of need for me to jump in and get more stories into the release queue, so I'll check back in later. Some stories are a wall of text, with 3000 words or more in it, and you realize that will take a good bit of effort to distill it down, so it may or may not be high on the list of contenders to put into submission. There are some that are the opposite, which are basically only a single URL pointing to a story, which would take a bit of effort. Some come in from experienced submitters or maybe even former editors, and those are usually "copy-ready" and ready to release. Those are the easiest to get in the queue. I actually enjoy distilling down the long stories or building up the single story links, but I need to set time aside to do that and sometimes I get to it and sometimes not. If you submit a story and it gets rejected, the rejection notice even invites you to resubmit it if you want. I had a few stories rejected recently for being on the queue too long, but I'm not resubmitting them because I will just find new ones to submit in their place.
I will comment on that pig-human organ story you mentioned as an example. I looked at that and I thought that was an interesting opinion piece, but it was very long, and if I recall, it made many points in the argument that were something like one per paragraph. To me that looked like something that would have taken a lot of effort to cut it down for a summary, probably with me needing to write a summary paragraph or two to pull in all those individual points to keep the summary concise. If somebody else had done that kind of distillation before it was submitted, it would have had a much better chance of getting selected, so that's an example of if there are a decent number of stories already in the queue, there's not a lot of motivation for a volunteer to spend a lot of effort getting that particular story into shape even though it can be an interesting topic.
It may not be obvious, but there is no specific direction given to editors other than that the stories they release should fit the site. There is no "we need more Elon Musk stories!" or anything. I can tell you that the job is taken seriously. The editors keep an eye on the other editors, and we strive for at least one other editor to review what goes out. I seconded the Breitbart/Musk/Twitter story, and I am aware of the reputation Brietbart has, though I had never been to the site personally. The reason I seconded the story was that it was a topic that was deemed of interest for the site, it was properly formatted and presented, and I read the story and it was a straight-up presentation of what it said it was about (no gratuitous use of incendiary words like "woke," "canceled," or blaming "the left" for anything). If this was my day job, maybe I would have set up a meeting with the other editors to discuss it, or searched the web to find the same or similar story from another outlet and rewrite the submission. The only strike against it I saw was the website it was coming from, but that's a tricky topic, I think. We don't have approved or banned source lists, and I don't think we'd want them. We've had science stories from Chinese media, which I don't consider to be bastions of truth and independence, and a number of things come in from RT and Al Jazeera, whom I know are not favorites of some people around here either. If there were two stories in the queue with the same story and one of them from Breitbart, I personally would probably go with the alternative as lead and add a "See Also" link to the former, but that wasn't the case there, I saw no obvious problems with the story, so I approved it and moved on and figured any issues would end up being pointed out in the discussions.
I apologize for this rambling on so long. I really do try to be a person of few words. But I stepped forward to help as editor when martyb had to step down because I really value this site and community here and I wanted to do my part. I have tremendous respect for people like janrinok and the time and effort they put in. You know janrinok because he puts himself out here like this and responds to direct criticism and becomes a face of the site (as others like NCommander or TMB were before), but there are also a lot of other people who you don't hear much from because they quietly do their thing to keep things rolling. Remember, the editors can only work with the stories that are in the queue at the time they need to use the queue. If the queue is low, pointing out there were interesting stories there yesterday doesn't do anything about where the queue is now. If you think he sounds ungrateful (which I would argue very strongly that he is not), just keep in mind where he is coming from as well and how some of the feedback on editing from some drifts closer to unwarranted personal acquisitions ("you are biased!", "you are trying to silence my viewpoint!", "you are incompetent!"). Like volunteering to referee a kids match and catching abuse from the parents on the sideline, it can wear on you and sometimes you may laugh or shake it off, and sometimes it may annoy you.
The very last thing before I get off my soapbox, if you like this site, please find some way to support it, whether it be volunteering as an editor or some other position of support, or by throwing some money into the till from time to time, or by occasionally submitting some stories that would generate some interesting conversations, or if nothing else, just positively engage in the discussions themselves and add your viewpoint or ask a question or whatever. Do it as AC if you aren't comfortable with using an account. Have a good technical throw down on whatever topic is your specialty. The smart, the silly, the absurd, these are the reasons I like coming here every day.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @12:13AM (2 children)
If you're an editor, you can see hashes, and know that I'm the same AC you replied to.
You're right, SN staff do receive a lot of nasty comments, particularly from a small subset of users. One of these users is banned but continues to actively disrupt the site as much as possible. I generally agree with his political views but find his behavior abhorrent and believe he deserves his ban. I will say that I am not personally making such comments.
With respect to the Breitbart story, the specific article probably was fine. Bias can be an issue, but the bigger issue with that specific source is its long history of failed fact checks. Janrinok said that the content of that article could be corroborated elsewhere, and I believe him. Generally speaking, Breitbart is a lousy source because of its poor fact check record. Where I disagreed with janrinok's defense of Brietbart was his comparison to other sources. NPR is a highly credible source with a clean fact check record, and doesn't have that much of a left bias. CNN's TV programming is highly biased and has a lousy fact check record. However, news articles on CNN.com do have good fact check records. There's really no comparison between those sources and Breitbart. WSWS might be the best comparison, but it has a better fact check record than Breitbart, at least according to the fact checking I found. The specific article almost certainly wasn't a problem, but it's typically not a trustworthy source. The specific criticism seemed unwarranted to me, but it's generally a bad source. There are sites that rate the credibility of sources, so it's fairly easy to check on this and get a good idea of whether a source is likely to be good. Look up Media Bias/Fact Check and you can find evaluations of a large number of sources.
As for being limited to stories that are in the queue, there is a solution to that. Stories that aren't time-sensitive and might be interesting a few weeks later can be held in the queue. That was done with COVID stories, which were then merged into a single story instead of posting each one individually. That's why the text is there on the submission queue page. Perhaps the Intel vulnerability story would be less newsworthy in 2-3 weeks, but the story about pig organ transplants doesn't have the same time-sensitive nature.
I trust you that janrinok isn't actually ungrateful, but many of his recent comments have come across in a very bad way. I thought about replying to the Breitbart argument, and I read those comments. I didn't want to pile on, and didn't think my comments would be helpful there. I've tried to exercise restraint in my criticism, and I don't take posting such criticism lightly.
I have contributed money to the site, including as recently as a few months ago. I don't remember exactly when I subscribed most recently, but I'm pretty sure that it's counted in the current funding cycle on the front page. If not, it would have been last fall, shortly before the near year. It hasn't been the only time I've given SN money, either. I'm sure there are users who contribute more, but I do the best I can given my financial situation.
But like I said, just as staff members work for free, the community also works for free, and we contribute our time and money as we are able. We do the best we can in terms of subscribing, submitting stories, moderating, and posting worthwhile comments. When someone contributes a story, even if they haven't edited it, and just submit the entire article via IRC, they're genuinely trying to help the site. It might be more work if it's a long block of text, but that user is genuinely trying to make a useful contribution. Perhaps there isn't time to edit it in the short term, but if it's not time-sensitive, it could be held for a time when the queue is low and there's time to edit the story. Most of your community members are doing the best they can, I assure you. If more people had the time available to them to edit their submitted stories carefully or actually become editors or work elsewhere on the staff, I suspect they would have done so.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by hubie on Thursday May 19 2022, @02:50AM (1 child)
I appreciate your responding back. With my response I wanted to give people a general idea what goes on with the editing process. Back in the Slashdot days I used to contribute a story on occasion and would have them rejected, so I stopped suggesting any (and in those late 90s early 2000s they weren't hurting for stories). When SN opened for business, I pretty quickly submitted a story and it was very quickly rejected (looking back on it, it was an interesting (to me, at least) topic with a pretty poor lead-in written by me with an implied assumption that people would follow the link and read the story). My initial response was similar to some of the comments I've seen here ("they said they wanted help, so I sent in a submission and it was rejected, so I said forget it"), but after I got over that initial feeling of rejection, my next ten or so submissions were taken. I just wanted to let people know that it happens, and maybe they're right in that there's not a great reason it didn't get picked up, but don't let that discourage submitting. The story topics themselves aren't what's the most interesting part to me and I easily find a lot of these stories on my own. What I like, for instance, is there will be something like one of takyon's hardware/processor release update stories, and I've stopped seriously following hardware quite a while ago so outside of this site I wouldn't have even read the whole headline before I moved on to something else, but here I will click in and end up coming away with three suggested alternatives for the Raspberry Pi I can't buy, and which alternative is best for running a home multimedia setup or something.
I hope my previous comment didn't come off sounding like a complaint that the submitters aren't doing their job. I think we all appreciate the stories ending up in the queue in any form and the editors will do the best job they can on them. I've looked at a story and thought "that'll take a lot of work and I don't have time for that now" only to come back later to find one of the other editors took care of it. I'll just reiterate to any who are interested that all my interactions with the editors, including a lot of training time, has been nothing but class and that they take their roles seriously.
(Score: 1) by Ironrose on Sunday May 22 2022, @06:55AM
hubie might be a keeper. Only thing, do not interact with soylentils. This was TMB's mistake, and now janrinok's. We want transparency, not whining.
(Score: 5, Informative) by bart9h on Wednesday May 18 2022, @08:32PM
Does it matter if the story was covered by the green site? I, for one, completely stopped going there a short while after this site was running.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @03:40PM (1 child)
After submitting maybe a dozen tech stories more interesting than the average and not a single one published I gave up. Go pull from the rejected subs pile and let us know when that gets low.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @06:30PM
Same here. Tried. Was ignored. Fuck that; find your own stories.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @04:42PM (31 children)
More spam mod abuse https://soylentnews.org/meta/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49318&page=1&cid=1245899#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday May 18 2022, @05:28PM (17 children)
Read the conditions attached to the Decision regarding aristarchus' ban - it clearly states that all input from aristarchus is Spam. He signed the comment.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @05:41PM (16 children)
With that explanation why would anyone invest their time and energy on this site? Ideological gate keeping, tolerance of racism and treason, and betrayal of the site's stated purpose for existence. Your crusade is really showing everyone your true authoritarian nature. Aristarchus deserves some of it for their sock puppeting and alleged doxxing, but at this point you're looking a lot like Ahab.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday May 18 2022, @11:26PM (15 children)
Because they're not aristarchus? Some of aristarchus's tricks (like the repeated doxxing) I wouldn't call an investment.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @05:21AM (14 children)
See? You try to contribute, and counter the alt-right nonsense and juvenile libertarian fantasies, and you get accused of "tricks" by a poster of bad faith. I could see how many would loose faith, and be cowed by the flagrant cuckolding of honest Soylentils, but keeping up the fight is important, to win the culture war over female body types, with said soft and fluffy khallow.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 19 2022, @11:05AM (13 children)
I see it more as contributing in good faith. And then some bad faith whiner accuses me of "alt-right nonsense and juvenile libertarian fantasies" rather than acknowledging the years of aristarchus's bad behavior.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @06:24PM (12 children)
Aristarchus spewed a lotta crap over the years but was much better than say ethanol-boiled. That said you're no innocent either, you routinely ignore reality in favor of economic growth and a blind faith that science will come up with a solution for any problems. You try hard to soumd objective to generate an attitude of confidence, but like most people who do so your confidence is built on quicksand of facts. Glass house, stones, don't do it.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 19 2022, @10:09PM (8 children)
I'd call it an informed confidence not blind faith. But then, I'm paying attention to what actually works[*] in the world.
[*] "works" doesn't mean "works perfectly with no drawbacks whatsoever".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @10:44PM (7 children)
None are so blind, as khallow.
(Score: 2, Funny) by khallow on Thursday May 19 2022, @11:01PM (6 children)
I've gone through this exercise with many(?) AC. An AC suggests I could be wrong in some way without giving any evidence - often not even the slightest detail. I point out how useless that approach is. They double down.
That is self-defeating since at best, they convince nobody new and at worst unconvince a few people through the juvenile argument and transparent bad faith of their argument.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 20 2022, @02:35AM (2 children)
Sorry, you are thinking of Barbara J. Hudson.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 20 2022, @04:47AM (1 child)
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 21 2022, @07:40AM
WHAT IS THE FREQUENCY, KHALLOW!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 20 2022, @03:32AM (2 children)
Oh plenty of peoole have pointed out how you're wrong only for you to pull out bullshit oil funded science that contradicts what the oil companies admitted to knowing in the 70s. Other topics too, so now there is no point wasting time finding sources and arguing back and forth while you smugly just ignore whatever you want. Poor khallow, annoyed people have stooped taking them seriously and trying desperately to make your critics out to be the failures. Typical of rightwing libertarians like yourself. By any chance did you participate in Trump's insurrection?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 20 2022, @04:45AM (1 child)
You serious? First, I doubt you're right about what the oil companies knew in the 1970s. There's been this propaganda game to allege that the oil companies knew about catastrophic climate change way back when. But when you actually look at the evidence, you find that's a ridiculous exaggeration of the truth. Basically, oil companies knew back then that climate change could be a problem in the future. That really is all we know now, though there is evidence of modest climate change now. It has changed surprisingly litle.
In other words, they probably would have been just as shitty examples as the one concrete example you choose to provide in years.
Yet another example of your ignorance in this matter. Where's the evidence?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 20 2022, @05:12AM
khallow! Adults are having a discussion here! You can pipe up later, after most have gone home. M'kay?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday May 21 2022, @02:13AM (2 children)
Unless, of course, he was Ethanol-fueled too. The MO was similar - create a fake personality with exaggerated political leanings. It might be amusing to pretend to be two posters with radically different viewpoints.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 21 2022, @07:50AM
Unless, it was khallow who sockpuppeted both aristarchus and Ethanol_funneled, to accentuate the positive, and decentuate the negative, and just say it's all up to the richies. Khallow could be doing that. He is enough of a bad faith soylentil that I would not put it past him. Or maybe SN is just simulation by a trans-meta-dimensional beings to see what happens when you let teenaged libertarians post, um, too much? Callouses? Hair? Curious minds want to know, khallow!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 21 2022, @07:56AM
It would be even funnier, if you signed this post "aristarchus". Do it, khallow!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @08:25PM (12 children)
How do you know that this AC who claims to be aristarchus is actually aristarchus? Is not aristarchus banned, and therefore unable to post? I find this spam mod troubling, and suspect it is more the content of the post than the spurious attribution that is the cause for it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @09:47PM (5 children)
Um, because he signed it?
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @10:05PM (4 children)
Perhaps you are unaware that anyone can put any tag they wish on a post? I, as an ex-officio Head Editor emeritus, wish all you stupid lefty users would just shut the fuck up, and let us get on with our Brietbart adjacent alt-right love fest!
Sincerely,
janrinok
(Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @10:28PM
I'm the real Janrinok and do not appreciate spoofing of my venerable name. Someone olease spam mod an AC, I've lost access to my password manager but she should be home soon.
Sincerely,
Head British Editor Janrinok
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 19 2022, @10:12PM (2 children)
Nobody cares enough to spoof him out of the blue. Especially to argue a point that aristarchus would argue anyway.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 20 2022, @03:38AM (1 child)
By the law of of rightwing projection that means you've been busy spoofing aristarchus. Gads, ari may be obnoxious but you rightwingers are just straight messed up.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 20 2022, @04:45AM
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @05:04AM (5 children)
Here is a crazy idea... I am just spitballing here.
But if you don't wish to be spam modded for signing your posts as Aristarchus... Then perhaps you shouldn't sign your posts as Aristarchus?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @05:44AM (4 children)
You fail at 3-d
printingchess. Obviously the AC is not the real aristarchus, but only signing as aristarchus to confirm the "narrative" of the rouge aristarchus that doxxed the Runaway1956, by revealing that Runaway was actually FYN, 1-13. But by pretending to be aristarchus, he gets a spam mod thrown on a particular IP portal, from a specific VPN or TOR exit point, in order to sensor the Soylentils using this same point. Clever, too clever by half, since we all know that the AC doing this must be, . . . wait for it! janrinok himself! Yes, the plot is revealed, and now we know all about the SoylentNews basement under the pizzeria, in Talinn, and the adrenochrome. If only we had the real aristarchus back, then things like this would not happen.(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @04:12PM
Of course that crafty AC always knows which VPN and TOR exit nodes the others are using. And selecting a different VPN or TOR exit node will not thwart the the AC... who obviously has psychic powers.
Only those of similar cognitive ineptitude would fail to notice the glaring holes in your tale fabricated with Dunning-Kruger incompetence.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 20 2022, @04:48AM (2 children)
Interesting what people think (I use the term loosely) is clever.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 20 2022, @05:15AM (1 child)
They know your IP hash. They know your preferred female body type. They know where you work. They know where you come from. They know who you voted for, in the last precedential election. If I were you, khallow, I would tread more gingerly. Especially if you do not get humor.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 20 2022, @05:23PM
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday May 18 2022, @12:10PM (1 child)
What's that URL for the RSS feed, again?
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday May 18 2022, @12:11PM
Nevermind. It's this: https://logs.sylnt.us/%23rss-bot/index.html [sylnt.us]
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Wednesday May 18 2022, @01:08PM
Thank you for your efforts!
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday May 18 2022, @02:04PM (7 children)
I have no idea what upstart is or how to use it.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday May 18 2022, @02:30PM
The submission page [soylentnews.org] on the site works just as it has always done. Upstart is on IRC for those who prefer to use it.
(Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Wednesday May 18 2022, @03:59PM (5 children)
Upstart was a good attempt. But systemd is what all the distros were required to standardize on. So use systemd to help the editors.
To transfer files: right-click on file, pick Copy. Unplug mouse, plug mouse into other computer. Right-click, paste.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday May 18 2022, @06:02PM
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday May 18 2022, @06:40PM (3 children)
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday May 18 2022, @08:17PM (2 children)
Actually, I did understand the difference. I probably should have put some subtle clue in that joke.
To transfer files: right-click on file, pick Copy. Unplug mouse, plug mouse into other computer. Right-click, paste.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @02:05AM (1 child)
Another problem with the current editorial staff: near complete lack of humor. (FatPhil has some, but tends Republican.)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @11:03AM
I too find FatPhil has some lack of humor.