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Read the conditions attached to the Decision regarding aristarchus' ban - it clearly states that all input from aristarchus is Spam. He signed the comment.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @05:41PM
(16 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Wednesday May 18 2022, @05:41PM (#1245993)
With that explanation why would anyone invest their time and energy on this site? Ideological gate keeping, tolerance of racism and treason, and betrayal of the site's stated purpose for existence. Your crusade is really showing everyone your true authoritarian nature. Aristarchus deserves some of it for their sock puppeting and alleged doxxing, but at this point you're looking a lot like Ahab.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @05:21AM
(14 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday May 19 2022, @05:21AM (#1246160)
Some of aristarchus's tricks (like the repeated doxxing) I wouldn't call an investment.
See? You try to contribute, and counter the alt-right nonsense and juvenile libertarian fantasies, and you get accused of "tricks" by a poster of bad faith. I could see how many would loose faith, and be cowed by the flagrant cuckolding of honest Soylentils, but keeping up the fight is important, to win the culture war over female body types, with said soft and fluffy khallow.
and you get accused of "tricks" by a poster of bad faith.
I see it more as contributing in good faith. And then some bad faith whiner accuses me of "alt-right nonsense and juvenile libertarian fantasies" rather than acknowledging the years of aristarchus's bad behavior.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @06:24PM
(12 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday May 19 2022, @06:24PM (#1246338)
Aristarchus spewed a lotta crap over the years but was much better than say ethanol-boiled. That said you're no innocent either, you routinely ignore reality in favor of economic growth and a blind faith that science will come up with a solution for any problems. You try hard to soumd objective to generate an attitude of confidence, but like most people who do so your confidence is built on quicksand of facts. Glass house, stones, don't do it.
That said you're no innocent either, you routinely ignore reality in favor of economic growth and a blind faith that science will come up with a solution for any problems.
I'd call it an informed confidence not blind faith. But then, I'm paying attention to what actually works[*] in the world.
[*] "works" doesn't mean "works perfectly with no drawbacks whatsoever".
Well, I'd say that there's at least one AC who is blinder. Much blinder.
I've gone through this exercise with many(?) AC. An AC suggests I could be wrong in some way without giving any evidence - often not even the slightest detail. I point out how useless that approach is. They double down.
That is self-defeating since at best, they convince nobody new and at worst unconvince a few people through the juvenile argument and transparent bad faith of their argument.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 20 2022, @03:32AM
(2 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday May 20 2022, @03:32AM (#1246482)
Oh plenty of peoole have pointed out how you're wrong only for you to pull out bullshit oil funded science that contradicts what the oil companies admitted to knowing in the 70s. Other topics too, so now there is no point wasting time finding sources and arguing back and forth while you smugly just ignore whatever you want. Poor khallow, annoyed people have stooped taking them seriously and trying desperately to make your critics out to be the failures. Typical of rightwing libertarians like yourself. By any chance did you participate in Trump's insurrection?
Oh plenty of peoole have pointed out how you're wrong only for you to pull out bullshit oil funded science that contradicts what the oil companies admitted to knowing in the 70s.
You serious? First, I doubt you're right about what the oil companies knew in the 1970s. There's been this propaganda game to allege that the oil companies knew about catastrophic climate change way back when. But when you actually look at the evidence, you find that's a ridiculous exaggeration of the truth. Basically, oil companies knew back then that climate change could be a problem in the future. That really is all we know now, though there is evidence of modest climate change now. It has changed surprisingly litle.
Other topics too, so now there is no point wasting time finding sources and arguing back and forth while you smugly just ignore whatever you want.
In other words, they probably would have been just as shitty examples as the one concrete example you choose to provide in years.
By any chance did you participate in Trump's insurrection?
Yet another example of your ignorance in this matter. Where's the evidence?
Aristarchus spewed a lotta crap over the years but was much better than say ethanol-boiled.
Unless, of course, he was Ethanol-fueled too. The MO was similar - create a fake personality with exaggerated political leanings. It might be amusing to pretend to be two posters with radically different viewpoints.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 21 2022, @07:50AM
by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday May 21 2022, @07:50AM (#1246803)
Unless, it was khallow who sockpuppeted both aristarchus and Ethanol_funneled, to accentuate the positive, and decentuate the negative, and just say it's all up to the richies. Khallow could be doing that. He is enough of a bad faith soylentil that I would not put it past him. Or maybe SN is just simulation by a trans-meta-dimensional beings to see what happens when you let teenaged libertarians post, um, too much? Callouses? Hair? Curious minds want to know, khallow!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @08:25PM
(12 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Wednesday May 18 2022, @08:25PM (#1246040)
How do you know that this AC who claims to be aristarchus is actually aristarchus? Is not aristarchus banned, and therefore unable to post? I find this spam mod troubling, and suspect it is more the content of the post than the spurious attribution that is the cause for it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @09:47PM
(5 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Wednesday May 18 2022, @09:47PM (#1246062)
How do you know that this AC who claims to be aristarchus is actually aristarchus? Is not aristarchus banned, and therefore unable to post? I find this spam mod troubling, and suspect it is more the content of the post than the spurious attribution that is the cause for it.
by Anonymous Coward
on Wednesday May 18 2022, @10:05PM (#1246068)
Perhaps you are unaware that anyone can put any tag they wish on a post? I, as an ex-officio Head Editor emeritus, wish all you stupid lefty users would just shut the fuck up, and let us get on with our Brietbart adjacent alt-right love fest!
by Anonymous Coward
on Wednesday May 18 2022, @10:28PM (#1246083)
I'm the real Janrinok and do not appreciate spoofing of my venerable name. Someone olease spam mod an AC, I've lost access to my password manager but she should be home soon.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 20 2022, @03:38AM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday May 20 2022, @03:38AM (#1246486)
By the law of of rightwing projection that means you've been busy spoofing aristarchus. Gads, ari may be obnoxious but you rightwingers are just straight messed up.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @05:44AM
(4 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday May 19 2022, @05:44AM (#1246162)
You fail at 3-d printing chess. Obviously the AC is not the real aristarchus, but only signing as aristarchus to confirm the "narrative" of the rouge aristarchus that doxxed the Runaway1956, by revealing that Runaway was actually FYN, 1-13. But by pretending to be aristarchus, he gets a spam mod thrown on a particular IP portal, from a specific VPN or TOR exit point, in order to sensor the Soylentils using this same point. Clever, too clever by half, since we all know that the AC doing this must be, . . . wait for it! janrinok himself! Yes, the plot is revealed, and now we know all about the SoylentNews basement under the pizzeria, in Talinn, and the adrenochrome. If only we had the real aristarchus back, then things like this would not happen.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @04:12PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday May 19 2022, @04:12PM (#1246303)
But by pretending to be aristarchus, he gets a spam mod thrown on a particular IP portal, from a specific VPN or TOR exit point, in order to sensor the Soylentils using this same point.
Of course that crafty AC always knows which VPN and TOR exit nodes the others are using. And selecting a different VPN or TOR exit node will not thwart the the AC... who obviously has psychic powers.
Only those of similar cognitive ineptitude would fail to notice the glaring holes in your tale fabricated with Dunning-Kruger incompetence.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 20 2022, @05:15AM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday May 20 2022, @05:15AM (#1246508)
They know your IP hash. They know your preferred female body type. They know where you work. They know where you come from. They know who you voted for, in the last precedential election. If I were you, khallow, I would tread more gingerly. Especially if you do not get humor.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @04:42PM (31 children)
More spam mod abuse https://soylentnews.org/meta/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49318&page=1&cid=1245899#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday May 18 2022, @05:28PM (17 children)
Read the conditions attached to the Decision regarding aristarchus' ban - it clearly states that all input from aristarchus is Spam. He signed the comment.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @05:41PM (16 children)
With that explanation why would anyone invest their time and energy on this site? Ideological gate keeping, tolerance of racism and treason, and betrayal of the site's stated purpose for existence. Your crusade is really showing everyone your true authoritarian nature. Aristarchus deserves some of it for their sock puppeting and alleged doxxing, but at this point you're looking a lot like Ahab.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday May 18 2022, @11:26PM (15 children)
Because they're not aristarchus? Some of aristarchus's tricks (like the repeated doxxing) I wouldn't call an investment.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @05:21AM (14 children)
See? You try to contribute, and counter the alt-right nonsense and juvenile libertarian fantasies, and you get accused of "tricks" by a poster of bad faith. I could see how many would loose faith, and be cowed by the flagrant cuckolding of honest Soylentils, but keeping up the fight is important, to win the culture war over female body types, with said soft and fluffy khallow.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 19 2022, @11:05AM (13 children)
I see it more as contributing in good faith. And then some bad faith whiner accuses me of "alt-right nonsense and juvenile libertarian fantasies" rather than acknowledging the years of aristarchus's bad behavior.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @06:24PM (12 children)
Aristarchus spewed a lotta crap over the years but was much better than say ethanol-boiled. That said you're no innocent either, you routinely ignore reality in favor of economic growth and a blind faith that science will come up with a solution for any problems. You try hard to soumd objective to generate an attitude of confidence, but like most people who do so your confidence is built on quicksand of facts. Glass house, stones, don't do it.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 19 2022, @10:09PM (8 children)
I'd call it an informed confidence not blind faith. But then, I'm paying attention to what actually works[*] in the world.
[*] "works" doesn't mean "works perfectly with no drawbacks whatsoever".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @10:44PM (7 children)
None are so blind, as khallow.
(Score: 2, Funny) by khallow on Thursday May 19 2022, @11:01PM (6 children)
I've gone through this exercise with many(?) AC. An AC suggests I could be wrong in some way without giving any evidence - often not even the slightest detail. I point out how useless that approach is. They double down.
That is self-defeating since at best, they convince nobody new and at worst unconvince a few people through the juvenile argument and transparent bad faith of their argument.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 20 2022, @02:35AM (2 children)
Sorry, you are thinking of Barbara J. Hudson.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 20 2022, @04:47AM (1 child)
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 21 2022, @07:40AM
WHAT IS THE FREQUENCY, KHALLOW!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 20 2022, @03:32AM (2 children)
Oh plenty of peoole have pointed out how you're wrong only for you to pull out bullshit oil funded science that contradicts what the oil companies admitted to knowing in the 70s. Other topics too, so now there is no point wasting time finding sources and arguing back and forth while you smugly just ignore whatever you want. Poor khallow, annoyed people have stooped taking them seriously and trying desperately to make your critics out to be the failures. Typical of rightwing libertarians like yourself. By any chance did you participate in Trump's insurrection?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 20 2022, @04:45AM (1 child)
You serious? First, I doubt you're right about what the oil companies knew in the 1970s. There's been this propaganda game to allege that the oil companies knew about catastrophic climate change way back when. But when you actually look at the evidence, you find that's a ridiculous exaggeration of the truth. Basically, oil companies knew back then that climate change could be a problem in the future. That really is all we know now, though there is evidence of modest climate change now. It has changed surprisingly litle.
In other words, they probably would have been just as shitty examples as the one concrete example you choose to provide in years.
Yet another example of your ignorance in this matter. Where's the evidence?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 20 2022, @05:12AM
khallow! Adults are having a discussion here! You can pipe up later, after most have gone home. M'kay?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday May 21 2022, @02:13AM (2 children)
Unless, of course, he was Ethanol-fueled too. The MO was similar - create a fake personality with exaggerated political leanings. It might be amusing to pretend to be two posters with radically different viewpoints.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 21 2022, @07:50AM
Unless, it was khallow who sockpuppeted both aristarchus and Ethanol_funneled, to accentuate the positive, and decentuate the negative, and just say it's all up to the richies. Khallow could be doing that. He is enough of a bad faith soylentil that I would not put it past him. Or maybe SN is just simulation by a trans-meta-dimensional beings to see what happens when you let teenaged libertarians post, um, too much? Callouses? Hair? Curious minds want to know, khallow!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 21 2022, @07:56AM
It would be even funnier, if you signed this post "aristarchus". Do it, khallow!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @08:25PM (12 children)
How do you know that this AC who claims to be aristarchus is actually aristarchus? Is not aristarchus banned, and therefore unable to post? I find this spam mod troubling, and suspect it is more the content of the post than the spurious attribution that is the cause for it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @09:47PM (5 children)
Um, because he signed it?
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @10:05PM (4 children)
Perhaps you are unaware that anyone can put any tag they wish on a post? I, as an ex-officio Head Editor emeritus, wish all you stupid lefty users would just shut the fuck up, and let us get on with our Brietbart adjacent alt-right love fest!
Sincerely,
janrinok
(Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2022, @10:28PM
I'm the real Janrinok and do not appreciate spoofing of my venerable name. Someone olease spam mod an AC, I've lost access to my password manager but she should be home soon.
Sincerely,
Head British Editor Janrinok
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 19 2022, @10:12PM (2 children)
Nobody cares enough to spoof him out of the blue. Especially to argue a point that aristarchus would argue anyway.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 20 2022, @03:38AM (1 child)
By the law of of rightwing projection that means you've been busy spoofing aristarchus. Gads, ari may be obnoxious but you rightwingers are just straight messed up.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 20 2022, @04:45AM
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @05:04AM (5 children)
Here is a crazy idea... I am just spitballing here.
But if you don't wish to be spam modded for signing your posts as Aristarchus... Then perhaps you shouldn't sign your posts as Aristarchus?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @05:44AM (4 children)
You fail at 3-d
printingchess. Obviously the AC is not the real aristarchus, but only signing as aristarchus to confirm the "narrative" of the rouge aristarchus that doxxed the Runaway1956, by revealing that Runaway was actually FYN, 1-13. But by pretending to be aristarchus, he gets a spam mod thrown on a particular IP portal, from a specific VPN or TOR exit point, in order to sensor the Soylentils using this same point. Clever, too clever by half, since we all know that the AC doing this must be, . . . wait for it! janrinok himself! Yes, the plot is revealed, and now we know all about the SoylentNews basement under the pizzeria, in Talinn, and the adrenochrome. If only we had the real aristarchus back, then things like this would not happen.(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2022, @04:12PM
Of course that crafty AC always knows which VPN and TOR exit nodes the others are using. And selecting a different VPN or TOR exit node will not thwart the the AC... who obviously has psychic powers.
Only those of similar cognitive ineptitude would fail to notice the glaring holes in your tale fabricated with Dunning-Kruger incompetence.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 20 2022, @04:48AM (2 children)
Interesting what people think (I use the term loosely) is clever.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 20 2022, @05:15AM (1 child)
They know your IP hash. They know your preferred female body type. They know where you work. They know where you come from. They know who you voted for, in the last precedential election. If I were you, khallow, I would tread more gingerly. Especially if you do not get humor.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 20 2022, @05:23PM