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posted by janrinok on Sunday July 03 2022, @03:30PM   Printer-friendly
from the lets-see-what-happens-here dept.

I realise that this has been an unpleasant time for many of our anonymous community members, but I can assure you that it has been necessary. I am not yet prepared to go into details but I can at least update you with our findings so far. But first we have to look at some historical data.

Anonymous Cowards (ACs) have always been - and will hopefully continue to be - welcome members of our community. There are many perfectly understandable reasons for wishing to post as AC and how you chose to live your own personal life is of no concern of this site. Equally, you are welcome to use VPNs and other security measures to protect your privacy. We take similar measures to protect all of your data so that you will not be compromised by us. These measures are effective and to the SN administration ACs appear as a single user with the user identity of #1.

We cannot treat some ACs differently from others. While we can manage to sort out your comments etc with the aid of the hashes that we produce, they change so frequently as to be useless for any purpose outside of this site. But the Administration is only concerned with what happens within this site and so this point is moot. We have no interest in the rest of the internet so IP addresses are also of no interest to us. How your comments get from wherever you are to us is irrelevant. The bottom line is that ACs can only be treated as a single account. That account is granted certain permissions or not granted those permissions and they apply to every AC interaction.

Most of our community, both logged in and AC, participate in the discussions in an reasonable manner and discuss the topic that has been outlined and any threads that resulting from it. It is true that, particularly at weekends, there is a slight increase in the number of ACs appearing but on their own they are little more than a minor irritant. There is, however, a 3rd group, consisting of ACs who sole purpose seems to be to derail any sensible discussion. Over recent years they have become more aggressive and often use personal attacks rather than challenging what is being said. Some are more obvious than others and I am sure that you can all think of examples of such people for yourself. A very small number have stated that it is their aim to prevent SoylentNews from continuing.

On 22 Jun of this year we received an implied threat (https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49894&page=1&cid=1254201) suggesting the the person making it had a target date of 6 July for some event or other. It is possible that this is related to another 'prophecy' in which this individual foretold that the site would soon be dead. We believe that we can identify the person making that threat with a reasonable degree of certainty. However, since that time the number of ad-hominem attacks has increased and we have also been subjected to increasing amounts of spam. In small amounts either or both of these things can be shrugged of, but when they come increasingly aggressive and frequent, they can make the entire experience of being in this community very unpleasant. I know that we have lost both staff and numerous community members because of this toxic atmosphere - and not, as some would have you believe, because we administer the site!

Almost all of this behaviour is conducted by a very small number of ACs and occasionally via sock-puppet accounts. As the levels of harassment increased over the last few weeks it was obvious to us that we could remove it by simply preventing AC access. This was not an easy decision to make but we knew that we could protect the majority of the site by this simple action. The result is, as you know, that we reluctantly removed anonymous access by ACs to the front page.

We are now actively looking for more permanent solutions and hopefully to exactly what we had before. I have experimented with providing stories on the front page which are AC friendly, and also in my journal. We are still looking for a better solution but unless we can separate individual ACs then I cannot see what else can be done. I would welcome your feedback and suggestions. The outcome of our decision is also our loss as you can see if you look at the numbers of comments that we are now getting compared to before the ban.

I have spent a lot of time analysing the posts, both current and historical, to try to identify the person or persons responsible for this unwanted content. I am not going to name specific individuals because I believe that you can each reach your own conclusions. By looking at both the spam and comment content, and their meta data, I have established the following.

The person spamming our site is one of our own Anonymous Cowards who is currently blocked because we have removed access for the AC account - and that block affects all ACs. He is also one of the people regularly carrying out ad hominem attacks against other community members. He will be reading everything that we post about this issue.

Unless the abuses cease everywhere on the site including in journals, ACs will remain outside of the main site except for specially released stories until we can devise a better system. For us to currently do anything different would be foolish and irresponsible in the extreme. As soon as the abuse ceases we can readmit all ACs to the main site again.

I know that this will be as much of a disappointment to you as it is to me, and you may also be thinking of leaving. I ask you not to go. Rather I would encourage you all to let the abusers know that they are not fighting for your freedom of speech ("freeze peach") but they are by their actions actively preventing your participation in our site. There is one particular post (https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=50204&page=1&cid=1257692) which suggests that this is being done on behalf of all ACs and that you all stand as one behind this action. I don't believe that anybody has the right to claim that if you haven't actually agreed to it.

 
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  • (Score: 2) by Username on Tuesday July 05 2022, @08:34AM (2 children)

    by Username (4557) on Tuesday July 05 2022, @08:34AM (#1258191)

    I say we keep that Anonymous Coward bastard, but we associate each anon with a unique identifier to that anons ip whatever and display that to everyone so each individual user can then block that specific anon. IE Anonymous Coward 1 to Anonymous Coward 99999999, then I can block Anonymous Coward 99919999 if I don't want to see his shit posting. Or block Anonymous Coward* all together.

    Also, we should not anonymize moderations. IE: I should be able to face my accusers, and identify any possible harassment campaigns. Which should solve most reasons to post as AC.

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  • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05 2022, @01:19PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05 2022, @01:19PM (#1258248)

    No fren, that will not work. You cannot block Emmanuel Goldstein^W^W Aristarchus, now that he has been assimilated by our hive mind. Aristarchus has become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, capable of jumping into any software or I pee address still hard-wired to the matrix.

  • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday July 05 2022, @02:19PM

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 05 2022, @02:19PM (#1258259) Journal

    Also, we should not anonymize moderations. IE: I should be able to face my accusers, and identify any possible harassment campaigns.

    I can counter that with the recent supposedly 'apk' spam. It was because dalek commented negatively against a previous 'apk' statement that he was targetted with a total of over 140 spam messages. Publicising who is moderating might have some advantages in your eyes but the decision that we agreed upon was that it was more likely to result in 'retribution' attacks than limit moderation abuse.

    Administrators do try to curb the more excessive moderation abuse. I cannot claim that we are 100% successful but you do not see how many warnings we send out to those who do try to push the moderation boundaries. I'm sure that every admin is different but in my experience a polite and discrete warning tends to stop the problem without any feathers being ruffled. I may not agree with the moderations given but that is because different people have different viewpoints. We are looking at moderation trends or excessive single moderations rather than judging whether something should be a disagree, flamebait, or troll or, conversely, an interesting or insightful. Additionally, we are perhaps in a better position to identify sock puppets being used to moderate thus hiding the true identity of the moderator.

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    I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.