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posted by NCommander on Wednesday July 05 2023, @02:23AM   Printer-friendly
from the ssl-negotations-are-complex dept.

So, I know its been a bit quiet here, but we're working through getting through the last few items relating to cutting over to newer infrastructure. As such, its been working through the bug list, and there's one issue I want to get some feedback on.

Back in November when the infrastructure was upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04, a few users with older devices stopped being able to connect to SoylentNews. This confused me, since we've been using the same NGINX SSL termination setup that has been in use since at least 2016. Well, I finally found the root cause, and as it turns out, Canonical bumped up the minimum OpenSSL security level, which disabled several ciphers, and broke devices not supporting TLS 1.2 or later.

By testing the site with the SSL Labs site checker, it appears anything older than Android 4.0, or iOS 5 is broken. This mostly seems to be devices that are over a decade old at this point, and won't be able to browse the vast majority of sites on the Internet as is. We discussed this internally a bit, and I'm of the opinion that its not worth re-enabling the older ciphers to allow these devices to reconnect, especially since we're working to modernize the stack, and get it as up to date as we can get it. I also believe we had very few users who were actually affected by this, however, as the editors did get a few emails about SN breaking after the site upgrade, I wanted to poll the community, and make sure this is not a more widespread issue than initially believed.

Ultimately, this is going to be part of a broader discussion on what we will and won't support on SoylentNews going forward, and this seems as good of place as any to get the ball rolling.

~ NCommander

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by SomeGuy on Wednesday July 05 2023, @12:10PM

    by SomeGuy (5632) on Wednesday July 05 2023, @12:10PM (#1314519)

    I figured you got forced in to changing the TLS requirements during that last update because, you know, somewhere someone else is all becausesecurityyoucantbetoosafethinkofthechildrenpollywannacracker Fortunatly the site still works in Retrozilla on Windows 95, which support TLS 1.2 as long as no virurtual hosts are used - which basically means this is still one of the few sites that it can load any more.

    At this point, major sites are already breaking even in Windows XP based browsers, so I keep having to shuffle over to a shitty Windows 10 box (sigh, what is Microsoft going to break today on that thing?! Windows 10 and and 11 are not what I consider stable OSes) just to get a few things done.

    - Posted from Microsoft Windows 95

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