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You will stop at nothing to reach your objective, but only because your
brakes are defective.
(Score: 2) by Ingar on Friday July 04, @07:33AM (2 children)
"Welcome to Earth" - Captain Steven Hiller
Love is a three-edged sword: heart, mind, and reality.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 04, @02:46PM (1 child)
Funnily enough, ABC TV network broadcast that movie last evening.
(Score: 2) by Ingar on Saturday July 05, @01:28PM
I rewatch it every few years. Just turn off your brain and it makes some great 90's entertainment:
aliens, explosions, Mr. Data as the Mad Professor and some splendid one-liners. What more could you want?
Love is a three-edged sword: heart, mind, and reality.
(Score: 5, Troll) by pe1rxq on Friday July 04, @01:39PM (15 children)
Question for the Trump fans:
- Are you still celebrating that you are not subject to a monarch?
- Or are you just drinking a lot and acting stupid? (Pretty much like any other day?)
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 04, @02:58PM (9 children)
Independent voter here- used to vote 75% D. Sorry, as an American, I want a better America. I have heart, soul, and compassion, but you can't just let the country be rotted away. If you do, there's nothing left from which to give to the disadvantaged. A stronger America allows us to help others. Despite the constant bashing from many outside the US, and now more and more internally, we are good, caring, and generous. But your criticisms and damages are not only taking away from what we had (from which we could be generous), but you're causing fear that causes us to retract from feeling a security from which we derive generosity.
I'm just constantly amazed at how one-sided brainwashed y'all are.
From an independent view, I see the Democrats just as monarch as you seem to think Trump is.
BTW, more than I've ever seen, Trump et al is being attacked like never before, and yet he's mostly winning in court, based on Constitution which includes defending the US from external and internal harm. In fact, I would support treason prison (very long sentences) for anyone who commits violence against any govt. agency that is trying to fix the problems in the US.
BTW, why do y'all think you're so kewl bashing Trump? You're like a bunch of sick bullies in a schoolyard picking on the smart nerd kid. If it was up to me y'all would be picking up litter with your teeth as punishment.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 04, @03:13PM
The orange one is a rapist, grifter, and bully. He is absolutely unfit for office. You approving this shows more about you than it does your false god. You are the problem. You pos will except tax cuts for the billionaires because they are special. You are a complete fucktard with no soul whatsoever.
(Score: 4, Informative) by epitaxial on Friday July 04, @03:36PM
This your guy? https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/portrait-of-american-financier-jeffrey-epstein-and-real-news-photo/681946574?adppopup=true [gettyimages.com]
(Score: 4, Informative) by OrugTor on Friday July 04, @03:39PM
Treason prison, sure, but not for the Capitol rioters. All pardoned. By your glorious leader. Bully-in-chief. Do you not understand the words you write?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 04, @03:44PM
Building concentration camps for Hispanics isn't what I see as heading towards a better America. Neither is warrantless black bagging of people off of the streets. Just wait until ICE gets their budget up to $100M and the 10,000 new slots filled, giving the Executive his own security force that answers to him. I'm not sure having an American Gestapo is heading in the right direction either.
Nothing celebrates the ideals of the Founding Fathers more than the concentration of power into the executive. That's what July 4 is all about, isn't it? Madison, Jay, etc. were upset that they didn't have a king of their own?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by https on Friday July 04, @04:18PM (1 child)
The government just passed a bill that's kicking people off medicare & medicaid, while increasing taxes on the poorest and decreasing taxes on the richest. Estimates are about 14 million extra people will die prematurely due to that over the next few years. Calling yourself collectively good, caring, and generous is, and I'm going to be unreasonably generous here, a lie.
If you think criticism of blatant unconstitutionality, corruption, and openly Nazi polices is somehow taking away more from your country than the blatant unconstitutionality, corruption, and openly Nazi police, congratulations! You are supporting Nazis, corruption, and unconstitutional conduct. I know how much to value your explanations.
If you want the country to stop rotting away, fuckine well start by throwing out the convicted felon from the highest office. The conviction literally means he cannot hold office. It's literally right there in the latest version of your constitution. Oh, wait, I forgot - you don't give a fuck about constitutionality. My bad.
Trump's administration is not "winning in court" - they're ignoring the courts. ICE just got the most massive line increase in the budget, but the immigration courts did not get a similar rise. Congratulations! You've just built a bunch of concentration camps, and they shall rapidly become overflowing with people held outside habeus corpus. I wonder what that will lead to.
I ain't gonna be bashing Trump in this particular post (not that such bashing would be unwarranted). The real problem is that he's just a PR frontman, hired to distract, incite hate, and to redirect useful outrage. Republicans are working hard to advance Project 2025, destroy your republic's version of democracy, and replace it with a ethnostate theocracy with pockets of technofeudalism (cf. "network state"). Trump is simply the most polite face they could find to be their calendar girl.
You fail it.
Offended and laughing about it.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by canopic jug on Sunday July 06, @08:36AM
Republicans are working hard to advance Project 2025, destroy your republic's version of democracy, and replace it with a ethnostate theocracy with pockets of technofeudalism (cf. "network state").
Along those lines, here is a well thought out piece about the late Confederacy has been revived by dressing it in Christian vocabulary [notesfromthecircus.com]. The main culprit there has been the late Jerry Fallwell [genius.com]. As the author puts it, Fallwell is the man who turned the gospel into a weapon against the very people Jesus spent his life defending:
Money is not free speech. Elections should not be auctions.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 04, @11:15PM
no, he's not.
you'd risk getting beat-up yourself for a 'schoolyard nerd' that loudly calls the would-be bullies names himself? i suppose that explains why you didn't label yourself smart in that silly fanfic.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday July 05, @05:47AM
Right, have it burn down fast instead of rotting - what do you think an extra $2.5+B deficit will do to the country?
ROFL - that made my day, thanks for that.
This I can believe you'd do.
In any case, you have all the time to FO after you FA.
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 3, Touché) by khallow on Saturday July 05, @06:14AM
Because he's not what you claim. For me, there's three things in particular that stand out: 1) inserting his bullshit into real problems (pathological undermining of the US's covid response, his cynical and polarizing response to protest, and the unending thrashing of his policies), 2) repeatedly breaking law (all those court cases you allege he is "mostly winning", but not winning), and 3) even when he is following through on stuff the US actually needs (such as cutting back on the federal deficit or immigration reform), his administration is following through so badly that it'll probably be years after the end of his term before we will see a credible attempt to fix those things.
Like the January 6 protesters who committed many acts of violence against Congress and law enforcement? How many years do they deserve? The Viking guy who sat in Pelosi's chair? 20 years to life! The dude who nailed up that cheap gallows that can barely support the piece of rope dangling from it? Make the family pay for the bullet, amirite!
I don't support treason prison. The enormous opportunities for tyrannical abuse and unintended consequences are why.
First, you advocated both forcing someone to pick up trash with their teeth (see below) and "treason prison". You aren't "good, caring, and generous". Don't waste our time with that doublespeak. If your approach depends on everyone getting on board, then it should fail. Let's move on and try something that works instead.
"with your teeth"? I guess we know who the wannabe bully is. I have a suggestion here: get a clue. If that requires you to go out to your street and start picking up trash with your teeth, sure go for it. But I suspect that thinking (with your brain) would get you further.
My view: nobody who hasn't already drunk the Trump kool aid will start now. And your side is losing people.
I support democracy and rule of law. Do you?
(Score: 2) by Tork on Friday July 04, @11:05PM (1 child)
🏳️🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️🌈
(Score: 2) by pe1rxq on Saturday July 05, @06:29PM
Thanks! Its the 'troll' mod I cherish most. Posts like that are not worth it if you don't piss off at least one MAGA-wannabe-brownshirt.f
(Score: 4, Informative) by canopic jug on Saturday July 05, @06:38AM
Question for the Trump fans:
- Are you still celebrating that you are not subject to a monarch?
On that topic, The Verge raised some unfortunate points on that topic yesterday in their article, The American system of democracy has crashed [theverge.com]:
The parallels between what the recent administrations, especially the current one, and the original reasons to declare independence from the UK are disturbing. It's even worse when you track not just that he appears to be taking orders but also from whom [theatlantic.com].
Money is not free speech. Elections should not be auctions.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Saturday July 05, @01:39PM (1 child)
We're just celebrating making the bad people very mad.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 05, @07:53PM
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 04, @03:05PM
As an "American" and descendant of the American Revolution, one of the things I'm most proud of is how we've time and time again come to the aid of other countries who have been attacked by horrible aggressors (World Wars, etc.).
Around here, major east coast US city suburbs, it's very quiet. Spectacular weather today and is forecast for the weekend. Almost everyone has gone to the shore for the weekend. It's crazy crowded there, but sometimes that's part of the fun.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 04, @05:08PM (1 child)
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by turgid on Friday July 04, @07:32PM
Is that the flag for when the USA takes over Australia?
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].