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posted by janrinok on Friday July 04, @05:35AM   Printer-friendly

From the staff, may I wish all members of our US community a very happy Independence Day and holiday weekend.

When the BBQs and beer get too much, when being sociable with other family members is getting you down, come back and join in a discussion or two.

 
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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 04, @02:58PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 04, @02:58PM (#1409310)

    Independent voter here- used to vote 75% D. Sorry, as an American, I want a better America. I have heart, soul, and compassion, but you can't just let the country be rotted away. If you do, there's nothing left from which to give to the disadvantaged. A stronger America allows us to help others. Despite the constant bashing from many outside the US, and now more and more internally, we are good, caring, and generous. But your criticisms and damages are not only taking away from what we had (from which we could be generous), but you're causing fear that causes us to retract from feeling a security from which we derive generosity.

    I'm just constantly amazed at how one-sided brainwashed y'all are.

    From an independent view, I see the Democrats just as monarch as you seem to think Trump is.

    BTW, more than I've ever seen, Trump et al is being attacked like never before, and yet he's mostly winning in court, based on Constitution which includes defending the US from external and internal harm. In fact, I would support treason prison (very long sentences) for anyone who commits violence against any govt. agency that is trying to fix the problems in the US.

    BTW, why do y'all think you're so kewl bashing Trump? You're like a bunch of sick bullies in a schoolyard picking on the smart nerd kid. If it was up to me y'all would be picking up litter with your teeth as punishment.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 04, @03:13PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 04, @03:13PM (#1409312)

    The orange one is a rapist, grifter, and bully. He is absolutely unfit for office. You approving this shows more about you than it does your false god. You are the problem. You pos will except tax cuts for the billionaires because they are special. You are a complete fucktard with no soul whatsoever.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by epitaxial on Friday July 04, @03:36PM

    by epitaxial (3165) on Friday July 04, @03:36PM (#1409315)
  • (Score: 4, Informative) by OrugTor on Friday July 04, @03:39PM

    by OrugTor (5147) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 04, @03:39PM (#1409316)

    Treason prison, sure, but not for the Capitol rioters. All pardoned. By your glorious leader. Bully-in-chief. Do you not understand the words you write?

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 04, @03:44PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 04, @03:44PM (#1409317)

    Building concentration camps for Hispanics isn't what I see as heading towards a better America. Neither is warrantless black bagging of people off of the streets. Just wait until ICE gets their budget up to $100M and the 10,000 new slots filled, giving the Executive his own security force that answers to him. I'm not sure having an American Gestapo is heading in the right direction either.

    Nothing celebrates the ideals of the Founding Fathers more than the concentration of power into the executive. That's what July 4 is all about, isn't it? Madison, Jay, etc. were upset that they didn't have a king of their own?

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by https on Friday July 04, @04:18PM (1 child)

    by https (5248) on Friday July 04, @04:18PM (#1409319) Journal

    The government just passed a bill that's kicking people off medicare & medicaid, while increasing taxes on the poorest and decreasing taxes on the richest. Estimates are about 14 million extra people will die prematurely due to that over the next few years. Calling yourself collectively good, caring, and generous is, and I'm going to be unreasonably generous here, a lie.

    If you think criticism of blatant unconstitutionality, corruption, and openly Nazi polices is somehow taking away more from your country than the blatant unconstitutionality, corruption, and openly Nazi police, congratulations! You are supporting Nazis, corruption, and unconstitutional conduct. I know how much to value your explanations.

    If you want the country to stop rotting away, fuckine well start by throwing out the convicted felon from the highest office. The conviction literally means he cannot hold office. It's literally right there in the latest version of your constitution. Oh, wait, I forgot - you don't give a fuck about constitutionality. My bad.

    Trump's administration is not "winning in court" - they're ignoring the courts. ICE just got the most massive line increase in the budget, but the immigration courts did not get a similar rise. Congratulations! You've just built a bunch of concentration camps, and they shall rapidly become overflowing with people held outside habeus corpus. I wonder what that will lead to.

    I ain't gonna be bashing Trump in this particular post (not that such bashing would be unwarranted). The real problem is that he's just a PR frontman, hired to distract, incite hate, and to redirect useful outrage. Republicans are working hard to advance Project 2025, destroy your republic's version of democracy, and replace it with a ethnostate theocracy with pockets of technofeudalism (cf. "network state"). Trump is simply the most polite face they could find to be their calendar girl.

    You fail it.

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    Offended and laughing about it.
  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by canopic jug on Sunday July 06, @08:36AM

    by canopic jug (3949) Subscriber Badge on Sunday July 06, @08:36AM (#1409428) Journal

    Republicans are working hard to advance Project 2025, destroy your republic's version of democracy, and replace it with a ethnostate theocracy with pockets of technofeudalism (cf. "network state").

    Along those lines, here is a well thought out piece about the late Confederacy has been revived by dressing it in Christian vocabulary [notesfromthecircus.com]. The main culprit there has been the late Jerry Fallwell [genius.com]. As the author puts it, Fallwell is the man who turned the gospel into a weapon against the very people Jesus spent his life defending:

    The answer was theological camouflage.

    Falwell understood that the Lost Cause mythology needed updating for the post-civil rights era. You couldn’t openly defend white supremacy anymore, but you could defend “traditional values.” You couldn’t explicitly argue for racial hierarchy, but you could talk about “law and order” and “biblical family structure.” You couldn’t promote Confederate ideology directly, but you could wrap it in scriptural language and call it moral revival.

    The genius was using Christianity as a delivery system for Confederate nostalgia. Instead of “states’ rights,” you had “religious liberty.” Instead of “racial purity,” you had “biblical family values.” Instead of “the South shall rise again,” you had “taking back America for God.”

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    Money is not free speech. Elections should not be auctions.
  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 04, @11:15PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 04, @11:15PM (#1409342)

    and yet he's mostly winning in court

    no, he's not.

    If it was up to me y'all would be picking up litter with your teeth as punishment.

    you'd risk getting beat-up yourself for a 'schoolyard nerd' that loudly calls the would-be bullies names himself? i suppose that explains why you didn't label yourself smart in that silly fanfic.

  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday July 05, @05:47AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 05, @05:47AM (#1409363) Journal

    I have heart, soul, and compassion, but you can't just let the country be rotted away.

    Right, have it burn down fast instead of rotting - what do you think an extra $2.5+B deficit will do to the country?

    why do y'all think you're so kewl bashing Trump? You're like a bunch of sick bullies in a schoolyard picking on the smart nerd kid.

    ROFL - that made my day, thanks for that.

    If it was up to me y'all would be picking up litter with your teeth as punishment.

    This I can believe you'd do.

    In any case, you have all the time to FO after you FA.

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    https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
  • (Score: 4, Touché) by khallow on Saturday July 05, @06:14AM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 05, @06:14AM (#1409365) Journal
    I don't know if you're for real or not. This response is if you are.

    BTW, why do y'all think you're so kewl bashing Trump?

    Because he's not what you claim. For me, there's three things in particular that stand out: 1) inserting his bullshit into real problems (pathological undermining of the US's covid response, his cynical and polarizing response to protest, and the unending thrashing of his policies), 2) repeatedly breaking law (all those court cases you allege he is "mostly winning", but not winning), and 3) even when he is following through on stuff the US actually needs (such as cutting back on the federal deficit or immigration reform), his administration is following through so badly that it'll probably be years after the end of his term before we will see a credible attempt to fix those things.

    In fact, I would support treason prison (very long sentences) for anyone who commits violence against any govt. agency that is trying to fix the problems in the US.

    Like the January 6 protesters who committed many acts of violence against Congress and law enforcement? How many years do they deserve? The Viking guy who sat in Pelosi's chair? 20 years to life! The dude who nailed up that cheap gallows that can barely support the piece of rope dangling from it? Make the family pay for the bullet, amirite!

    I don't support treason prison. The enormous opportunities for tyrannical abuse and unintended consequences are why.

    Despite the constant bashing from many outside the US, and now more and more internally, we are good, caring, and generous. But your criticisms and damages are not only taking away from what we had (from which we could be generous), but you're causing fear that causes us to retract from feeling a security from which we derive generosity.

    First, you advocated both forcing someone to pick up trash with their teeth (see below) and "treason prison". You aren't "good, caring, and generous". Don't waste our time with that doublespeak. If your approach depends on everyone getting on board, then it should fail. Let's move on and try something that works instead.

    You're like a bunch of sick bullies in a schoolyard picking on the smart nerd kid. If it was up to me y'all would be picking up litter with your teeth as punishment.

    "with your teeth"? I guess we know who the wannabe bully is. I have a suggestion here: get a clue. If that requires you to go out to your street and start picking up trash with your teeth, sure go for it. But I suspect that thinking (with your brain) would get you further.

    My view: nobody who hasn't already drunk the Trump kool aid will start now. And your side is losing people.

    I support democracy and rule of law. Do you?