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posted by martyb on Monday May 29, @05:11AM   Printer-friendly
from the clueless-people-praising-authoritarianism dept.

Common Dreams reports

Speaking to CNBC on Monday [May 22], [Commerce Secretary Wilbur] Ross, who accompanied Trump on the weekend trip to Riyadh, said he found it "fascinating" that he did not see "a single hint of a protester anywhere there during the whole time we were there. Not one guy with a bad placard".

[...] Bruce Riedel, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution in the Center for Middle East Policy, told CNBC afterwards that Saudi Arabia is among the "most repressive" of free speech in the Middle East, adding: "Saudi Arabia is an absolute monarchy which forbids any political protest or any manifestation of dissent. It is also a police state that beheads opponents."

In Why Were the Saudi Streets So Quiet?, also via Common Dreams, Medea Benjamin adds:

Protest is illegal in the kingdom. It's also against the law to "distort the reputation of the kingdom" or "break allegiance with the ruler". A 2014 anti-terrorism law treats virtually all free expression as acts of terrorism, including "calling for atheist thought"; "contacting groups or individuals opposed to the Kingdom"; and "seeking to disrupt national unity" by calling for protests. People who dare dissent are publicly flogged, tortured in prison, and sometimes publicly beheaded.

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Ahead of the US president's visit to Saudi Arabia, a series of multi-billion-dollar arms deals have been outlined. The previous US administration suspended some supplies because of human rights concerns.

Deutsche Welle

When President Trump arrives in Riyadh this week, he will lay out his vision for a new regional security architecture White House officials call an “Arab NATO,” to guide the fight against terrorism and push back against Iran. As a cornerstone of the plan, Trump will also announce one of the largest arms-sales deals in history.

Behind the scenes, the Trump administration and Saudi Arabia have been conducting extensive negotiations, led by White House senior adviser Jared Kushner and Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. The discussions began shortly after the presidential election, when Mohammed, known in Washington as “MBS,” sent a delegation to meet with Kushner and other Trump officials at Trump Tower.

After years of disillusionment with the Obama administration, the Saudi leadership was eager to do business. “They were willing to make a bet on Trump and on America,” a senior White House official said.

[...] The most concrete part of the idea is a mammoth U.S. arms package for Saudi Arabia that Trump will also announce in Riyadh. Final details are still being worked out, but officials said the package will include between $98 billion and $128 billion in arms sales. Over 10 years, total sales could reach $350 billion.

The sales include huge upgrades for the Saudi army and navy to include Littoral Combat Ships, THAAD missile defense systems, armored personnel carriers, missiles, bombs and munitions, officials said. Some of the production and assembly could be located in Saudi Arabia, boosting MBS’s project to build a Saudi domestic defense industrial capability. But most of the items would be built by American defense contractors.

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  • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday May 29, @05:38AM (12 children)

    by kaszz (4211) on Monday May 29, @05:38AM (#517032) Journal

    Yes, brutal dictatorship is fascinating. Torture and beheading not so much.
    Let's just hope there's no ideological contagion.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Monday May 29, @05:42AM (4 children)

      Putin and Duterte. Now he's a fan of the Saudis.

      --
      we have a ... crazy person (MDC), that regularly posts more coherent and interesting things than do these racist trolls
    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @05:50AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @05:50AM (#517037)

      > Let's just hope there's no ideological contagion.

      Contagion in which direction?
      Trump loves dictators and strongmen, and he hates liberal democracies.
      There is even something called dictator chic [politico.com] and Trump epitomizes it.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @06:22AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @06:22AM (#517043)

        Hey, Nazis have great uniform, all the bad guys do!

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by davester666 on Monday May 29, @09:18AM (1 child)

      by davester666 (155) on Monday May 29, @09:18AM (#517077)

      I think once Mr. Tiny Hands was elected, he was surprised to find out he still needed other people not under his control to agree with him to accomplish things.

      • (Score: 1) by John Miller on Wednesday May 31, @01:45PM

        by John Miller (6613) on Wednesday May 31, @01:45PM (#518271)

        Millions of illegals and dead people voted fraudulently in the election. The majority of real Americans voted for Donald J. Trump. The majority of real Americans are very happy with what President Trump is doing to make America great again.

        I know him and I can tell you his hands are not so short. Those hands can hit a golf ball 285 yards. Nobody has ever hit his hands. He has never heard of this. If they are small, something else must be small. I guarantee you there is no problem. I guarantee you.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 29, @10:38AM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 29, @10:38AM (#517090) Journal

      You beat me to it. I was going to use a title including the word "dunce". The fool has been sitting in the dunce's corner all of his life, if he doesn't understand that the House of Saud rules it's country with an iron fist, and plenty of swords, axes, hatches, or even kitchen knives. A professional takes the head off his victim in one swing of the sword, or axe. An amateur will use the kitchen knife, and slowly saw his way through.

      --
      This broadcast is intended for mature audiences.
  • (Score: 2, Touché) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Monday May 29, @05:41AM (1 child)

    You say that like it's a bad thing.

    --
    we have a ... crazy person (MDC), that regularly posts more coherent and interesting things than do these racist trolls
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @06:38AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @06:38AM (#517046)

      The opponents are all dickheads. Thick, stiff, bulbous. Don't you just want to give them head.

  • (Score: 1, Touché) by jmorris on Monday May 29, @06:26AM (4 children)

    by jmorris (4844) Subscriber Badge <{jmorris} {at} {beau.org}> on Monday May 29, @06:26AM (#517045)

    Maybe it is the same sort of thing that has caused a certain NYT columnist to obsess about wishing we could be more like Communist China and waxing poetic about the virtues of absolute dictatorship. While assuring the horrified readers he doesn't really mean it of course and it is just a passing fancy as he laments how easy it is China to do X while we are stuck without because of popular opinion (i.e. people too stupid to see how brilliant Thomas Friedman is), the political system (weak fools who won't put the Enemy into camps where they belong) here, etc.

    At this point, who in the Trump Administration could be blamed for the occasional daydream about beheading a few reporters or protesters (BIRM) and getting on with MAGA. Yea, everybody knows it can't be done, at least not yet, but everybody needs a dream to get em through. Right?

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @11:31AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @11:31AM (#517098)

      Or maybe its none of that, but you are so agitated about that stuff that you just had make a post so you could virtue signal.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @11:40AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @11:40AM (#517100)

        You should stop staring at jmorris' virtues, and grow a pair of your own, deviant!

        • (Score: 2) by SpockLogic on Monday May 29, @01:40PM (1 child)

          by SpockLogic (2762) on Monday May 29, @01:40PM (#517127)

          You should stop staring at jmorris' virtues, and grow a pair of your own, deviant!

          Wow, jmorris has virtues. Who knew.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @07:04PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @07:04PM (#517277)

            I'm pretty sure he considers them virtues.

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @08:15AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @08:15AM (#517060)

    Commerce Secretary Praises Lack of Drug Dealers During Trump's Phillipines Visit

    Commerce Secretary Praises Lack of Polar Bears During Trump's Arctic Visit

    Commerce Secretary Praises Lack of Jews During Trump's Nazi Germany Visit

    Commerce Secretary Praises Lack of Policy Discussion During Trump's Congress Visit

    Commerce Secretary Praises Lack of Americans During Trump's Russia Visit

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @02:28PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @02:28PM (#517150)

      Commerce Secretary Praises Lack of IQ from Trump's protesters.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @09:09PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @09:09PM (#517313)

        Every single move Trump has made so far has been an effort to make rich people richer.
        Unlike Reagan, there isn't even the pretense of "trickle down".
        ...and you might ask Kansans how Sam Brownback's trickle-down thing is working out for them.
        Hint: That's a failed hypothesis in USA.

        At the same time as the already-very-wealthy get even more wealthfare, [google.com] The 99 Percent continues its downward economic spiral [google.com] with the social safety net being chopped away, as they labor under Capitalism (a system that makes rich people richer).

        Explain how supporting any of this (voting/working against your own self-interest) demonstrates a particularly high IQ.

        If you are so inclined, add a description of how supporting a child president, whose intellectual and emotional development stalled at age 7, makes the USA better and more secure.

        ...or, is it just this simple?
        (The Reactionary's Creed)
        Do what hurts people of color--even if it hurts the majority of people, to include people of your own pigmentation and socio-economic strata.

        -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @03:02PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 29, @03:02PM (#517157)

      Commerce Secretary Praises Lack of Iraqi 'Fugees During Trump's Sicily Visit [theglobeandmail.com]

      The G7 leaders will see no rickety boats full of desperate migrants. The waters off the Taormina coast in eastern Sicily were being patrolled by Italian navy frigates – for security reasons, no landings nearby would be allowed (most of the migrant landings happen in southern Sicily, or on Lampedusa, the Italian island halfway between Sicily and Tunisia).

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