Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

Politics
posted by martyb on Thursday December 07 2017, @01:28PM   Printer-friendly
from the you-got-your-kleptocracy-in-my-plutocracy...two-great-tastes-that-taste-great-together dept.

Politico reports on a data theft from the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) by former employees who now work for the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC):

Staffers for Senate Republicans’ campaign arm seized information on more than 200,000 donors from the House GOP campaign committee over several months this year by breaking into its computer system, three sources with knowledge of the breach told POLITICO.

[...] Multiple NRSC staffers, who previously worked for the NRCC, used old database login information to gain access to House Republicans’ donor lists this year.

The donor list that was breached is among the NRCC’s most valuable assets, containing not only basic contact information like email addresses and phone numbers but personal information that could be used to entice donors to fork over cash — information on top issues and key states of interest to different people, the names of family members, and summaries of past donation history. The list has helped the NRCC raise over $77 million this year to defend the House in 2018.


Original Submission

This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
(1)
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @01:35PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @01:35PM (#606780)

    Gotta grab that money before the others do.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:19PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:19PM (#606814)

      No honor among thieves?

      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:46PM

        by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:46PM (#606831) Homepage Journal

        Not if they are politicians, at least. Don't know about the 'regular' thieves, lol.

        --
        --- That's not flying: that's... falling... with more luck than I have. ---
  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by nobu_the_bard on Thursday December 07 2017, @02:09PM (3 children)

    by nobu_the_bard (6373) on Thursday December 07 2017, @02:09PM (#606789)

    [...] used old database login information to gain access [...]

    You have this critical information that you rely on in a competitive "industry" so to speak, and give people access to it, and then they leave the organization, and you don't rescind or change that access?

    I wonder if it's because nobody told the maintainers of the database about the change in employment. In my experience that's the most common cause.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Thursday December 07 2017, @02:14PM

      by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Thursday December 07 2017, @02:14PM (#606792) Journal

      Either that, or it's that the users in question never actually had their own personal logins - there was a shared password (either officially or unofficially) that didn't get changed because people still working there continued to use it.

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by bzipitidoo on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:08PM (1 child)

      by bzipitidoo (4388) on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:08PM (#606808) Journal

      But they didn't leave to work for the Democrats or some other political party, they went to other Republicans. That's like a move within the company.

      But it seems Senate and House Republicans keep data from one another? Why? Sounds like there are bigger problems, about trust between fellow politicians on the same side.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Thursday December 07 2017, @02:45PM (10 children)

    by Phoenix666 (552) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 07 2017, @02:45PM (#606799) Journal

    So that means the Republicans in the House are at war with the Republicans in the Senate, because Republican staffers from the former stole to benefit the latter?

    Everyone has to acknowledge that as evidence that the Republican Party is in as much disarray as the Democratic Party is now.

    Me, I'm glad. Fuck 'em all. Maybe let's try government of the People, by the People, and for the People next iteration instead of a circus run by lizard people.

    --
    Washington DC delenda est.
    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Grishnakh on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:42PM (9 children)

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:42PM (#606827)

      Maybe let's try government of the People, by the People, and for the People next iteration instead of a circus run by lizard people.

      The People (well, about half of them, and in "red states", a clear majority of them usually) are getting exactly what they voted for with the Republican politicians. The People want abortion banned or restricted, no restrictions at all on guns, laws allowing religious employers to push their religion on employees, as little regulation on large corporations as possible, and tax cuts for the ultra-wealthy. The Republican politicians have worked steadfastly to accomplish these things for their constituents. Don't tell me that the People (including working-class/poor GOP voters) don't want this stuff, they really do. You can see it in comments all over the internet, you see it with right-wing pundits and talk show hosts, etc.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday December 07 2017, @06:11PM (5 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 07 2017, @06:11PM (#606908) Journal

        The People want abortion banned or restricted, no restrictions at all on guns, laws allowing religious employers to push their religion on employees, as little regulation on large corporations as possible, and tax cuts for the ultra-wealthy. The Republican politicians have worked steadfastly to accomplish these things for their constituents.

        Then why don't "the People" have those things? Abortion hasn't changed significantly since Roe v. Wade. Guns have restrictions. Laws don't exist that allow religious employers to push their religion on employees. Large corporations are heavily regulated for the most part (and like it that way, to be honest). About the only thing done was some tax cuts for the wealthy. But maybe "worked steadfastly" means something different in the Grishnakh dictionary?

        • (Score: 4, Informative) by Grishnakh on Thursday December 07 2017, @06:26PM (4 children)

          by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday December 07 2017, @06:26PM (#606920)

          Then why don't "the People" have those things?

          Because there's enough opposition from the other side to keep it from getting passed. Not all Americans are Republican voters after all; I'm just addressing what the Republican voters want.

          Abortion hasn't changed significantly since Roe v. Wade.

          There's new restrictions being passed on it in some states, such as laws forcing doctors to show ultrasound images of fetuses to women who want abortions, and defunding abortion clinics so while it's still legal, there's no place left in the state to actually get one.

          Guns have restrictions.

          Guns are FAR less restricted than they were in the 70s or 80s. Many states have gone to open-carry, something you just didn't see a few decades ago. The Heller case made it a lot easier for people in certain jurisdictions (like DC) to have guns. The GOP actually has had a lot of success on this issue.

          Laws don't exist that allow religious employers to push their religion on employees.

          Bullshit. The Hobby Lobby case is one such law. (In common law countries, court cases = law) There's other laws to allow religious employers to refuse to pay for contraception or abortion for their employers, even though it's part of ACA.

          Large corporations are heavily regulated for the most part

          The Trump administration and Ajit Pai are working hard to change this.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday December 07 2017, @06:31PM (2 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 07 2017, @06:31PM (#606925) Journal

            There's new restrictions being passed on it in some states, such as laws forcing doctors to show ultrasound images of fetuses to women who want abortions, and defunding abortion clinics so while it's still legal, there's no place left in the state to actually get one.

            There are several states [businessinsider.com] with one abortion clinic. There are no states with zero.

            • (Score: 2) by Whoever on Friday December 08 2017, @06:35AM (1 child)

              by Whoever (4524) on Friday December 08 2017, @06:35AM (#607113) Journal

              There are several states [businessinsider.com] with one abortion clinic. There are no states with zero.

              What's your point? To be disingenuous again? Or just display ignorance?

              The number of abortion clinics has reduced in many states, making it much more difficult for women in those states to get an abortion, especially poor women.. Then, there are the ridiculous laws that some backward states have passed regarding abortions, all aimed at making it more difficult to get an abortion.

              So, yes, things have changed since Roe vs. Wade for many women.

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday December 08 2017, @07:02AM

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday December 08 2017, @07:02AM (#607116) Journal

                What's your point? To be disingenuous again? Or just display ignorance?

                To correct a minor misconception. That's good, right?

                But if one looks at the second graphic, a chart of abortions per 1000 women, aged 15-44, one sees a massive decline in the number of abortions from 30 to just under 15 in 2014. Looking at figures both for fertility and birth rate per 1000 people, I see a decline over the same period. So we have a halving of abortion rate among women in the critical age bracket combined with lower fertility and birth rate (see this page [google.com], for example, for finding such data). Voluntary population control has massively succeeded with a huge decline in the need for abortion clinics.

                Over the linked story's time span, from 2008 to 2014, the number of abortion clinics declined by 7% from 851 to 788. Over that same period, abortion rates per 1000 women in the above age bracket declined from somewhere around 20 abortions per to just under 15. That's a 25% decline in the number of abortions, combined I might add with significant declines in female fertility and birth rate over the same period, indicating that there isn't a surge of accidental pregnancies going on. Why shouldn't a large drop in the demand for abortions result in a decline in the number of abortion clinics?

                Needless to say, I think this story is overrated and not supportive of Grishnakh's earlier argument. My view is that while there continue to be forces hostile to abortion clinics which have had at best modest success in some areas in restricting access to abortion services, the real story is the huge drop in demand for abortion services, which I think drives the drop in the number of abortion clinics.

          • (Score: 5, Interesting) by NotSanguine on Thursday December 07 2017, @07:48PM

            by NotSanguine (285) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 07 2017, @07:48PM (#606965) Homepage Journal

            Abortion hasn't changed significantly since Roe v. Wade.

            There's new restrictions being passed on it in some states, such as laws forcing doctors to show ultrasound images of fetuses to women who want abortions, and defunding abortion clinics so while it's still legal, there's no place left in the state to actually get one.

            And don't forget that some states are charging women who miscarry with murder:
            https://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/arrested-having-miscarriage-7-appalling-instances-where-pregnant-women-were [alternet.org]
            http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/blogs-main/advocates-blog/1568-utah-defines-some-miscarriages-as-qcriminal-homicideq- [advocatesforyouth.org]

            --
            No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
      • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Thursday December 07 2017, @07:13PM

        by krishnoid (1156) on Thursday December 07 2017, @07:13PM (#606949)

        The People (well, about half of them, and in "red states", a clear majority of them usually) are getting exactly what they voted for with the Republican politicians.

        Good for them! And since inmates appreciate knowing they're not forgotten especially during the holidays, make sure to visit Hillary in jail sometime during the month.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @10:14PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @10:14PM (#607013)

        Are getting what they voted for. Otherwise we could have seen republican and democratic candidates getting something closer to 20 percent of the vote, and the other 40-60 would have voted for third party candidates with the understanding that this election would be lost, but candidates for 2020 and beyond would now have the federal funding and political pressure to be in on debates in future elections.

        Instead those 96-98 percent voted for the 'safe' candidates to fuck over their partisan ideological competition and instead we got stuck with either Trump or Clinton, both of whom would have fucked us in the ass over slightly different legislation/presidential leadership, but in the end would still have been infringing upon our liberties with their political directions.

        If instead people had been willing to vote for Stein or Lieberman, or had Sanders not been a pussy and either stayed on the independent ticket or not told his supporters to vote for Hillary, splitting them back into two partisan halves, we might have seen some REAL change in the political landscape. But instead we simply reinforced the status quo while also watching the parties destabilize as the corruption we have long know to be rife in them has come to a head, but not putting us in a position to enact the wide ranging changes necessary to *ACTUALLY* 'drain the swamp' and the first steps towards disbanding the electoral college and enacting vote tallying that will eliminate FPtP (First Past the Post) voting mentalities, so that candidates will need an actual majority to vote for them in order to win the presidency (or preferably any other position in government. If they cannot start out with a 51 percent approval rating, how can we expect them to suitably represent their constituents?)

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 08 2017, @02:29AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 08 2017, @02:29AM (#607070)

          Had a brain fart there.

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:40PM (2 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:40PM (#606826) Journal

    These ex-employees apparently logged in with - are you ready for this? - the same credentials they used when they were employees!! That is, months, and apparently years, after termination, resigning, or whatever, their credentials were still valid. Nothing was breached, nothing was stolen, nothing lost value, nothing was hacked, nothing, nothing, nothing. Those ex-employees were obviously still welcome to come home, have a beer, chew the fat, and browse the database.

    --
    Aristarchus mom is hard core alt-right!
    • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:54PM (1 child)

      by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:54PM (#606838) Homepage Journal

      Shit! #Hillarygropedme too!

      or as well.

      also?

      --
      --- That's not flying: that's... falling... with more luck than I have. ---
      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 07 2017, @04:41PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 07 2017, @04:41PM (#606857) Journal

        try adnauseum - it probably works as well as anything. ;^)

        --
        Aristarchus mom is hard core alt-right!
  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:49PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:49PM (#606832)

    "Don't let toddlers have guns" is like:

    (A) Don't let Kim Jong Un have nuclear weapons.
    (B) Don't let politicians have computers.
    (C) Don't let alcoholics go to a bar.
    (D) Don't leave your sister in a room with the President.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @04:51PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @04:51PM (#606861)

      Don't let politicians have power to tax.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 07 2017, @04:56PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 07 2017, @04:56PM (#606864) Journal

      (D) Don't leave your sister in a room with t̶h̶e̶ ̶P̶r̶e̶s̶i̶d̶e̶n̶t̶ a sailor.

      FTFY

      --
      Aristarchus mom is hard core alt-right!
    • (Score: 2) by nobu_the_bard on Thursday December 07 2017, @05:43PM

      by nobu_the_bard (6373) on Thursday December 07 2017, @05:43PM (#606890)

      (D) Don't leave your sister in a room with the President.

      Yeah it'd be a huge pain having to be a character witness at her murder trial, I'm a very busy person.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @08:41PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @08:41PM (#606980)

      Kim Jong Un has not used nuclear weapons on anyone as far as we know (and has been warning the world that the Americans want nuclear war). American presidents on the other hand ... have used nuclear weapons on a nation basically defeated in battle ... to show the Russians/whoever what they are capable of.

      And also, don't give the American president Trump (who sucks jewish cocks) access to nuclear weapons... he just might use them.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 08 2017, @03:59PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 08 2017, @03:59PM (#607236)

        You have a raging hardon for Trump, I see. Is it love, or just lust? Or, are you just another Russian gold digger?

  • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:52PM

    by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 07 2017, @03:52PM (#606835) Homepage Journal

    " from the you-got-your-kleptocracy-in-my-plutocracy...two-great-tastes-that-taste-great-together dept. "

    Tastes great...less filling...tastes great!...less filling!....TASTES GREAT!!!...LESS FILLING!!!.....WE'RE STEALING YOUR DATA!!!...shit.

    --
    --- That's not flying: that's... falling... with more luck than I have. ---
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 08 2017, @04:18AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 08 2017, @04:18AM (#607093)

    Are we sure they weren't Russians?

  • (Score: 1) by flybrag on Friday December 08 2017, @07:06PM

    by flybrag (369) on Friday December 08 2017, @07:06PM (#607348)

    personal information that could be used to entice donors to fork over cash

    I read this as: personal information that could be used to blackmail donors

(1)