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posted by martyb on Saturday January 27 2018, @10:22AM   Printer-friendly
from the lifesyles-of-the-rich-and-famous dept.

The New York Times reports "Trump Ordered Mueller Fired, but Backed Off When White House Counsel Threatened to Quit":

President Trump ordered the firing last June of Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel overseeing the Russia investigation, according to four people told of the matter, but ultimately backed down after the White House counsel threatened to resign rather than carry out the directive.

Previously:
Mueller Investigation: Three Former Trump Aides Charged
Michael Flynn Pleads Guilty to Lying to the F.B.I.
UK Election Results; Fired FBI Director's Testimony on Trump; Trump Nominates New FBI Director


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Related Stories

UK Election Results; Fired FBI Director's Testimony on Trump; Trump Nominates New FBI Director 98 comments

We had three different political stories submitted. In the interest of trying to keep political discussions from spilling over into other stories, I have merged them all into this one story. If you are not interested in politics, you are free to ignore this story — another story will be along presently. --martyb

Mueller Investigation: Three Former Trump Aides Charged 90 comments

Manafort and Gates, were charged with "conspiracy against the United States," "conspiracy to launder money" and other offenses. The two were expected in court in Washington by the afternoon.

The Justice Department indictment on Manafort and Gates contains 12 counts: "conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading FARA statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts."

Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI.

The Manafort and Gates indictment unsealed on Monday morning does not make any reference to Russia's influence campaign against the presidential election, but it does allege extensive financial ties between Manafort and Gates and powerful Ukrainians.

The Papadopoulos materials, on the other hand, detail the many contacts investigators say he had with Russian-linked operatives. He met at least two people, a man and a woman, who the FBI says were working for the Russian government and had boasted to him about the help it could offer the Trump campaign against Clinton.


Original Submission #1Original Submission #2Original Submission #3

Michael Flynn Pleads Guilty to Lying to the F.B.I. 120 comments

President Trump's former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, pleaded guilty on Friday to lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with the Russian ambassador last December during the presidential transition, bringing the special counsel's investigation into the president's inner circle.

Mr. Flynn, who appeared in federal court in Washington, acknowledged that he was cooperating with the investigation by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, into Russian interference in the 2016 election. His plea agreement suggests that Mr. Flynn provided information to prosecutors, which may help advance the inquiry.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/us/politics/michael-flynn-guilty-russia-investigation.html


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U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions Resigns, as Requested by Donald Trump 62 comments

We had two Soylentils submit stories about Attorney General Jeff Sessions:

Trump fires Attorney General Jeff Sessions

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46132348

"US Attorney General Jeff Sessions has been fired by President Donald Trump.

[...] Mr Trump said Mr Sessions will be temporarily replaced by his chief of staff, Matthew Whitaker, who has criticised the Russia inquiry.

[...] In a resignation letter, Mr Sessions - a former Alabama senator who was an early supporter of Mr Trump - made clear the decision to go was not his own.

[...] The president cannot directly fire the special counsel, whose investigation Mr Trump has repeatedly decried as a witch hunt. But Mr Sessions' replacement will have the power to fire Mr Mueller or end the inquiry.

[...] Republican Senator Lindsey Graham said he looks forward to 'working with President Trump to find a confirmable, worthy successor so that we can start a new chapter at the Department of Justice'.

Mr Graham, of South Carolina, had said last year there would be 'holy hell to pay' if Mr Sessions was ever fired."

[...] House of Representatives Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi said: "It is impossible to read Attorney General Sessions' firing as anything other than another blatant attempt by President Trump to undermine & end Special Counsel Mueller's investigation."

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @10:40AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @10:40AM (#628794)

    Its within his rights to fire his people.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by martyb on Saturday January 27 2018, @02:39PM (6 children)

      by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 27 2018, @02:39PM (#628871) Journal

      Its within his rights to fire his people.

      I would generally agree with you, but if the person potentially being fired by the president is the one responsible for investigating any malfeasance that the president may have been involved with... well, I would suggest: quis custodiet ipsos custodes [wikipedia.org], or more colloquially, it seems an example of the "fox guarding the henhouse".

      Somewhat relatedly, I have found this saying [brainyquote.com] to contain great wisdom:
      The measure of a man's real character is what he would do if he knew he would never be found out. --Thomas Babington Macaulay.

      Lastly, if he had done nothing wrong, why would he care if there were an investigation?

      --
      Wit is intellect, dancing.
      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @02:51PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @02:51PM (#628876)

        An employee investigating their boss is a bad idea too.

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Saturday January 27 2018, @06:09PM

          by Thexalon (636) on Saturday January 27 2018, @06:09PM (#629009)

          Yes, but who is Mueller's boss?

          And the answer is supposed to be: We The People. He's supposed to be a public servant. Which means the entire organization is supposed to be answerable to the citizens and the law, not to whichever individual sits in the Oval Office.

          --
          The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @07:09PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @07:09PM (#629045)

          Wow. Just wow. No wonder our country is going down the shitter with subversive shits like you licking the CEOs butthole clean.

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @07:48PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @07:48PM (#629075)

        I look forward the results of his investigation of Trump selling uranium to Russia.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by linkdude64 on Saturday January 27 2018, @10:11PM (1 child)

        by linkdude64 (5482) on Saturday January 27 2018, @10:11PM (#629172)

        "Lastly, if he had done nothing wrong, why would he care if there were an investigation?"

        Let's say I stood up at the dinner table at thanksgiving and said, "Look martyb, I know you cheated on your wife and your daughter told me that she was raped by you when you were drunk last week. I've called the police, and they are conducting an investigation."

        Your pulse wouldn't even quicken, right? Why would you care if a police investigation was underway? I'm sure you wouldn't mind.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by martyb on Sunday January 28 2018, @03:29AM

          by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 28 2018, @03:29AM (#629309) Journal

          I'm not agreeing with that sentiment... it was meant more of a dig at those who have trotted out that old warhorse far too many times. Seemed apropos to me to bring it out and show how ridiculous a concept it was. If the establishment can use it against the people, why can he people not use it against the establishment?

          In retrospect, I should have put a sarcasm tag on that. Well have I learned, again, the wisdom behind Poe's Law [wikipedia.org]:

          Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers or viewers as a sincere expression of the parodied views.[1][2][3]

          The original statement of the adage, by Nathan Poe, was:[1]

          Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake for the genuine article.

          In other words "we are in furious agreement." =)

          Thanks for calling me out on this — I appreciate the chance to clarify.

          --
          Wit is intellect, dancing.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @02:47AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @02:47AM (#629293)

      I hope some Dem invites "Stormy" to attend the State of the Union. It's within their rights.

  • (Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @10:57AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @10:57AM (#628798)

    unless the target audience is a school of goldfish

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @08:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @08:33PM (#629124)

      This one is real you troll. Try verifying authenticity before spouting off like a fool.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @11:20AM (22 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @11:20AM (#628799)

    Just looking at the two other comments so far, and it seems lots of apologists for Trump and his obstruction of justice. It's rather clear now that American "democracy" is down the shitter.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday January 27 2018, @11:28AM (14 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday January 27 2018, @11:28AM (#628800) Homepage Journal

      Well, it's not exactly coming from a reliable source. There was a time when the name New York Times meant something other than "we will print absolutely anything it takes to see Democrats in office" but that time has long passed.

      --
      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @11:57AM (11 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @11:57AM (#628811)

        I'd take that over the Fox News of "We'll print anything to help the GOP look awesome."

        Of course Fox News never really had a time when it actually meant something. :p

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday January 27 2018, @12:26PM (10 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday January 27 2018, @12:26PM (#628825) Homepage Journal

          I wouldn't. Partisan lies from one party are no better than partisan lies from the other. And whataboutism towards FNC isn't ever going to mean much to a libertarian.

          --
          My rights don't end where your fear begins.
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @07:15PM (9 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @07:15PM (#629050)

            Hmm, how about facts? You care about those? I know you don't, but other people might find it interesting Trump is exactly the piece of crap everyone thinks he is [businessinsider.com]

            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday January 27 2018, @08:15PM (8 children)

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday January 27 2018, @08:15PM (#629114) Homepage Journal

              Erm... I don't care about Trump either. He can get impeached, tied to a rocket, and shot into the sun for all I care. So long as there's beyond a reasonable doubt proof that he's guilty. I'd miss his masterful trolling but no moreso than I'd miss a TV show I watched a few times a year, when I happened to think about it, getting canceled.

              --
              My rights don't end where your fear begins.
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @12:37AM (7 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @12:37AM (#629244)

                Hey dummy, follow the link if you don't want to sound like a jackass. I was pointing out that this is not "fake news" and by now you should know better than to make such claims just because it is an anti-trump article. As usual your intellectual prowess leaves everyone feeling dissatisfied.

                • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 28 2018, @12:56AM (6 children)

                  by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Sunday January 28 2018, @12:56AM (#629249) Homepage Journal

                  And? What's your point? I just said I don't give a rat's ass what happens to trump so long as it's all above board.

                  --
                  My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @01:47AM (5 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @01:47AM (#629270)

                    Your memory is shorter than a WalMart employee's benefits list.

                    "Well, it's not exactly coming from a reliable source. There was a time when the name New York Times meant something other than "we will print absolutely anything it takes to see Democrats in office" but that time has long passed."

                    Your error is in thinking this is some pro-trump anti-trump debate.

                    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 28 2018, @02:50AM (4 children)

                      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Sunday January 28 2018, @02:50AM (#629295) Homepage Journal

                      Sorry, there's no error on my part. There's only reading comprehension failure on your part. If the NYT's story turns out by complete coincidence to be true, I won't shed a single tear. My like, dislike, or indifference of Trump plays no part in my refusal to believe anything the NYT says until it's confirmed by someone reliable though. That is entirely based upon their own flagrant disregard for the truth in pursuit of their agenda.

                      --
                      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @05:22PM (3 children)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @05:22PM (#629884)

                        You really want to argue reading comprehension? Right after I linked to a story about Fox's Hannity reversing his accusations of fake news 30min later? I guess there really is no cure for the brainwashed, except maybe a new brain. I hear they've been trying to do some brain transplants so you may be in luck in 10-20 years!

                        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 29 2018, @05:59PM (2 children)

                          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 29 2018, @05:59PM (#629909) Homepage Journal

                          You think reading Hannity's opinion is going to convince me of anything except to close that browser tab as quickly as possible? I can't even stand the sight of the guy. There is nothing worse than to be absolutely correct on an issue and to hear him argue it with his trademarked utter ineptitude. Not that he's correct that often but it does happen by accident once in a while.

                          --
                          My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @07:07PM (1 child)

                            by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @07:07PM (#629965)

                            Sweet jesus, I just now realized what your problem is. You are 100% triggered all the time, you just mask it when there isn't a direct "threat". No wonder arguments are such a PITA with you, we all have to surmount your emotional barriers before you can even properly engage with a topic. Every. Time.

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @06:58PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @06:58PM (#629039)

        Ummmmm...

          The only reason we got a second term of Baby Bush was the NYT not reporting on the illegal wire tapping, until after the election "so as not to affect the election results."

        NYT has never been great, but it isn't for the reasons you claim. NYT is pro establishment, not partisan.

        • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Sunday January 28 2018, @03:11PM

          by Thexalon (636) on Sunday January 28 2018, @03:11PM (#629467)

          The only reason we got a second term of Baby Bush was the NYT not reporting on the illegal wire tapping

          I think making that the only reason is a bit of an exaggeration. Some other factors that might have been in play:
          - The media efforts to crush the campaign of Howard Dean by basically ignoring most of what his campaign had to say while using out-of-context audio of the "Dean Scream" to make Dean seem crazy and unhinged. Dean was looking like a stronger challenger than either John Kerry or John Edwards. But he represented the left wing of the Democratic Party at the time, so he had to be destroyed.

          - Lots of media outlets including the NYT dutifully reporting the claims of the "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" (that invented the idea that John Kerry's medals were fraudulent, contradicted by many who were there) and treated them as anything other than malarkey.

          --
          The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @11:42AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @11:42AM (#628807)

      No matter how many reporters CNN fire for reporting lies about Trump, they'll never stop publishing unverified stories by anonymous sources.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday January 27 2018, @12:00PM (2 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 27 2018, @12:00PM (#628814) Journal

      The fool became a household name with stupid shit like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75SEy1qu71I [youtube.com]

      If that wasn't enough retardation, try this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2u8OVK4qD4 [youtube.com]

      FFS, for this man to say "you're fired" means absolutely NOTHING - he's an idiot! And, I'll remind you that I've referred to him as the court fool since long before the election.

      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday January 27 2018, @03:47PM (1 child)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday January 27 2018, @03:47PM (#628897) Journal

        The fool became a household name... he's an idiot!

        Yes, and?... That seems to be entirely relative in this business. Besides, he is an actor.

        My personal little conspiracy theory is that he's a double agent for the democrats and is there to scare people back into their corral instead looking for a better alternative. I mean, not that anybody would anyway, but everybody got scared off from even trying because of Perot and Nader. This is the story about Trump we should run with. If we're going to say wild shit, let's make it really good shit.

        --
        La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @04:45PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @04:45PM (#628942)

          He's working on his insanity defense.

    • (Score: 2, Touché) by khallow on Saturday January 27 2018, @12:17PM (2 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 27 2018, @12:17PM (#628820) Journal

      Just looking at the two other comments so far

      Two comments is "out in force"? As to Trump's actions, think of all the starving comedians he keeps employed. You wouldn't want to starve comedians, would you?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @02:01PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @02:01PM (#628852)

        2 comments on soylentnews, where I wouldn't expect them to affect voting preferences that much.
        yes, that is a big deal.
        (although it's very likely these two comments were not paid for, since there are plenty of idiots willing to write something like this for various reasons).

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday January 27 2018, @02:12PM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 27 2018, @02:12PM (#628857) Journal

          2 comments on soylentnews, where I wouldn't expect them to affect voting preferences that much. yes, that is a big deal.

          No, that's quite the opposite of a big deal.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Saturday January 27 2018, @03:24PM (6 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday January 27 2018, @03:24PM (#628890) Journal

    Yellow "Journalism" is alive and well.

    Pulitzer, Murdoch, and Hearst! Oh my!

    --
    La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @07:12PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @07:12PM (#629047)

      Eat crow [businessinsider.com]

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by fustakrakich on Saturday January 27 2018, @10:26PM (4 children)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday January 27 2018, @10:26PM (#629178) Journal

        we have sources tonight just confirming

        Of really?! And they are... who? Will they testify under oath?

        Sorry, you still have nothing... Keep trying

        --
        La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @12:49AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @12:49AM (#629247)

          Since it came from Fox's own Hannity I'm not too worried about it. You are showing off your own failings here... keep trying, a GED is pretty valuable.

          • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday January 28 2018, @01:20AM (2 children)

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday January 28 2018, @01:20AM (#629258) Journal

            Let's just hope you never get jury duty.

            --
            La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @07:03PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @07:03PM (#629960)

              As long as you never breed I think we'll be ok.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @07:29PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 29 2018, @07:29PM (#629981)

                Yeah, really! It'd be a lifetime job protecting the kid from you!

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @04:01PM (17 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @04:01PM (#628912)

    Recall why he was hired:
    http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/26/5-things-learned-russia-investigation-week/ [thefederalist.com]

    To recap, roughly in the order we discovered this and opposite to the order of events:

    There was a Russia-related investigation into the campaign.

    It turns out that this involves a FISA warrant, normally used for dealing with foreign spies.

    This was obtained based on some sketchy document, the "dossier".

    The FBI got that by way of a UK spy and a Russian lawyer.

    It turns out to have been provided by Americans at a Washington DC PR firm called Fusion GPS.

    Fusion GPS got paid by a law firm called Perkins Coie, which in turn got paid by the Clinton campaign and the DNC. We call this money laundering. It is also a violation of campaign disclosure laws. Since foreigners of two different nations were involved, the DNC and Clinton campaign also violated laws banning foreign contributions to campaigns.

    It turns out that the Russian lawyer was denied a visa, but then the Obama administration made a special exception just for her. She meets with democrats, meets with Trump Jr., then again meets with democrats. This is a setup. Somebody is clearly trying to fabricate a connection between Trump and Russia.

    Now, remember that the FISA warrant was based off of the "dossier" and the Russian lawyer. Both of those were provided by democrats. Obama and Clinton desire a FISA warrant so that they can spy on the republicans, but they can't justify it, so they create false evidence. Woah. Read that one again!

    By this standard, Nixon did nothing wrong.

    So now, about Mueller... why? The entire justification for pestering Trump is a series of felonies committed by democrats. People need to be going to prison for this. Rule of law requires it. If there is any "rule of law" problem with Trump, it is his failure to get Clinton and Obama into a prison. Famous rich and powerful democrats should not be immune to prosecution for their misdeeds.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @04:52PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @04:52PM (#628946)

      You've been reading Tea-Party leaves again haven't you or are you just smoking them?

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by physicsmajor on Saturday January 27 2018, @05:34PM (2 children)

        by physicsmajor (1471) on Saturday January 27 2018, @05:34PM (#628983)

        Instead of misdirection and/or ad hominem attacks, AC, would you perhaps care to refute any of the above?

        I've been following this, and as far as I can tell the OP has a concise and accurate summary of these events. Which are deeply disturbing and a string of serious felonies going right to the top of the Obama/Clinton camp(s).

        They are so serious in fact, that if they were false, I think those involved would have provided substantial counter evidence already instead of clamming and lawyering up. Instead, there has been no substantive counter evidence whatsoever.

        No matter which color of the same establishment you think you're affiliated with, this should concern you.

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday January 27 2018, @11:37PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday January 27 2018, @11:37PM (#629208) Journal

          I'm with you on this. Lock Them ALL Up, as we should be saying. Bonus points if Hillary and Trump get to be cellmates.

          --
          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @05:46PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @05:46PM (#629516)

          Since FISA warrants are secret, how the hell do you know what it was based on? The rumor that it was based on the "dossier" is no more credible than that it was based on the drunken ravings of George Papadopoulos. The author of the "dossier" was a source of previous credible information and as such deserved attention from the FBI. Your demented delusions have no credibility. I'll wait for Mueller's results.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @09:20PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @09:20PM (#629149)

        Partisan Dipshit to English translation : "I have absolutely nothing so I'm just going to call you names! Take that!"

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @05:07PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @05:07PM (#628958)

      i didn't vote for trump, but they all need rounded up for sedition, including all the lying propagandists.

      • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday January 27 2018, @07:33PM (3 children)

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday January 27 2018, @07:33PM (#629061) Homepage

        Trump is going to curbstomp those sniveling crooked pukes. Voters will be voting Republican for decades to come!

        What I would do if I were Trump would be to gut the H1-B program. Perfect revenge against organizations like Jewgle and Amazon who colluded to try to get Hillary elected and are still meddling in politics in which they don't belong and with the added bonus of getting more Americans jobs.

        Notice that all these Jews such as Eric Schmidt and David Zucker are stepping down from their posts all at once and for some odd reason. Looks like the network of the Weinstein/Mossad crime and spying ring is going to tumble down.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @08:11PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @08:11PM (#629106)

          What I would do if I were Trump would be to gut the H1-B program

          You know, Trump is expanding the H1-B program, don't you? Poor Eth, betrayed by his fellow racist.

        • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Sunday January 28 2018, @12:15AM

          by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Sunday January 28 2018, @12:15AM (#629232) Homepage Journal

          Let me tell you, I went to Kenosha, Wisconsin. Crooked Hillary held a rally in Kenosha in 2008. But in 2016, she forgot Kenosha. She sent Chelsea -- who isn't bad looking at all -- to Eau Claire and Oshkosh. She sent Corrupt Kaine to Milwaukee, Green Bay and La Crosse. She sent Crazy Bernie -- who won the Wisconsin primary -- to Milwaukee. But she forgot Kenosha. And she lost very badly.

          And the great thing they have in Kenosha, they have the Snap-on Tools factory. I went to the factory. Do you use Snap-on tools? Fabulous tools, you can do everything with them. Beautiful tools, the craftsmanship is incredible.

          Our factories today are full of computer & robot, it's the age of computer & robot. You know computer, you know robot, there's jobs doing that. If you don't know it, there's not many jobs for you. But our companies are bringing in so many foreign workers, they call it the H-1B visa, I call it the THEFT of American prosperity. I think it should include only the most skilled and highest-paid applicants and should NEVER, EVER be used to replace American workers. I love the workers. We’re doing a good job for the workers. So I signed an executive order, right there in the Snap-on Tools factory in Kenosha. I call it the BUY AMERICAN AND HIRE AMERICAN order. It will protect workers and students like you. It declares that the policy of our government is to aggressively promote and use American-made goods and to ensure that American labor is hired to do the job.

          It's a tremendous executive order. Executive Order 13788. It does a lot. It tells our government agencies to ENFORCE the law about foreign workers, to ASSESS how it's being enforced, and to REPORT that to me. And it tells our government agencies to check before they buy cheap foreign goods. To ask, why are they so cheap? A lot of times, it's because of DUMPING. They need to ask, is this very cheap foreign stuff made from dumped steel? We need to protect our American steel companies. We could block the imports, we don't want to do it at this moment. So this is how we're addressing the steel dumping. It's a very unfair situation.

          Together, we’re going to do everything in our power to make sure that more products are stamped with those wonderful words: "Made in the USA."  In the old days, we used to use it. We don’t use it so much anymore. We’re going to start using it again -- Made in the USA.

          For too long we’ve watched as our factories have been closed and our jobs have been sent to faraway lands. We’ve lost 70,000 factories since China joined the World Trade Organization. And you’ve seen that and you’ve heard about it -- 70,000. The World Trade Organization -- another one of our disasters. But this election, the American people voted to end the theft of American prosperity. They voted to bring back their jobs -- and to bring back their dreams into our country.

          I was thrilled to be back in Wisconsin. With my good friend, Governor Scott Walker, he's been such a big help. As well as Senator Ron Johnson. We worked hard together. There was so much optimism in that room! The same incredible spirit that is sweeping across the country, and it's even greater than that great day when I won the state of Wisconsin and won the presidency. We’re doing a good job for the workers.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @12:53AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @12:53AM (#629248)

          Welcome back! Is there some reason you felt the need to shitpost as AC so much? Did you need to sink even lower than our expectations for EF?

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @09:48PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @09:48PM (#629165)

      If Trump is not guilty of anything, why doesn't he want to get exonerated? Why is he so afraid of Mueller? Why are *you* so afraid of Mueller and his investigation?

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @11:38PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 27 2018, @11:38PM (#629210)

        GTFO with the "nothing to hide" argument.

        We're smarter than that around here.

      • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Tuesday January 30 2018, @07:03AM

        by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Tuesday January 30 2018, @07:03AM (#630225) Homepage Journal

        It's a witch hunt, that's why. It's the biggest witch hunt in history. But I look forward to talking with Bullying Bobby Mueller.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by tibman on Sunday January 28 2018, @01:06AM (1 child)

      by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 28 2018, @01:06AM (#629255)

      The entire justification for pestering Trump is a series of felonies committed by democrats.

      Why does Jeff Sessions have to recuse himself every time something about Russia comes up? Because of Russian ties.
      Why did Michael Flynn resign from National Security Advisor? Because of Russian ties (and he lied about them).

      If the Clintons did something with the Russians then let's deal with them too. But blaming democrats for unrelated crap the republicans have done is trying to distract us. Investigate everyone involved, no matter which party.

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      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @07:17AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @07:17AM (#629357)

        In order to get enough votes for confirmation, Jeff Sessions agreed to recuse himself.

        Nobody in the Trump administration has done anything bad involving Russians. The closest was a campaign manager doing a bit of lobbying for them, but that was prior to being hired by Trump. It was in fact when he was working for democrats!

        Oh, and I only described one of the two big Russia-related scandals. The other is Uranium One, which is another Clinton/Obama scandal. Yep, that is two Russia-related scandals for them and none for Trump. I guess, if you are misbehaving with Russians it makes sense to claim that your opponent is doing so.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @04:30AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @04:30AM (#629327)

      Fusion GPS got paid by a law firm called Perkins Coie, which in turn got paid by the Clinton campaign and the DNC. We call this money laundering. It is also a violation of campaign disclosure laws. Since foreigners of two different nations were involved, the DNC and Clinton campaign also violated laws banning foreign contributions to campaigns.

      You're just saying words that you think sound bad without any understanding of what they actually mean. Money laundering? A violation of campaign disclosure laws because the Clinton campaign didn't disclose a foreign contribution that was somehow made to them by them paying a law firm to launder money?

      And are you claiming that the judges (all appointed by Chief Justice John Roberts) are simple enough to be fooled into granting FISA warrants on the basis of just the dossier?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @04:05PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 28 2018, @04:05PM (#629481)

      So now subcontracting is money laundering.

      Lol.

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