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posted by Fnord666 on Monday November 04 2019, @03:06AM   Printer-friendly
from the swaying-public-opinion dept.

Submitted via IRC for Runaway1956

Google exec suggests Elizabeth Warren is misguided and only big tech can prevent "the next Trump situation"

A new Project Veritas report includes an undercover video, leaked documents, and statements from a whistleblower that all paint a grim picture of Google's apparent lack of fairness, and its bias.

Google's now a very powerful company, and that's upsetting both sides in the US political divide.

As a consequence, many politicians are looking for ways to contain that power – either by applying antitrust or some other type of legislation against the company.

In the comments recorded in an undercover video, Google's Head of Responsible Innovation, Jen Gennai, cheerfully and not without a hint of hubris acknowledges that Google has been called to appear before Congress many times – but simply chose to ignore those invitations.


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Mojibake Tengu on Monday November 04 2019, @03:24AM (5 children)

    by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Monday November 04 2019, @03:24AM (#915563) Journal

    The next Trump situation could be prevented only if Google provides their own reliable and conscientious candidate(s) thorouhly selected from the CIA background. This is exactly what Russians did for themselves to prevent next Yeltsin situation. Most probably will never happen because of implacable warring factions in the deep state itself.

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    • (Score: 2) by legont on Monday November 04 2019, @03:34AM

      by legont (4179) on Monday November 04 2019, @03:34AM (#915565)

      Besides, it's Trump's job to prevent the next Google situation.

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      "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @03:55AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @03:55AM (#915582)

      The next "Trump situation" can be prevented if we vote all the nutcases out of Congress next year.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @06:00AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @06:00AM (#915627)

        And vote the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact IN.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday November 04 2019, @05:07AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 04 2019, @05:07AM (#915609) Journal

      The next Trump situation could be prevented only if ...

      ... people will start making use of their thinking abilities instead of trying to win the "blaring your mind" competition.

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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @03:34AM (11 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @03:34AM (#915567)

    We are living the dystopian future of big tech where Google, Amazon, Apple, and Facebook rule the world. Billionaire fortunes are made from advertising, undocumented immigrants are a hot topic, random nobodies operate their own streaming channels, and the Earth is orbited by privately launched satellite space junk. About the only difference in real life is the government gives away free smartphones instead of free television sets. Technology has improved but social media controls politics today just as predicted in 1987.

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday November 04 2019, @03:53AM (8 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday November 04 2019, @03:53AM (#915580) Homepage Journal

      Damn you! Now I have to find that show and watch it.

      --
      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday November 04 2019, @03:55AM (6 children)

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday November 04 2019, @03:55AM (#915583) Journal

        Try downloading it on your cellular device.

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        [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @04:09AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @04:09AM (#915588)

          Blank Reg would want you to pirate it.

          https://www1.swatchseries.to/serie/max_headroom [swatchseries.to]

          You're welcome.

        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday November 04 2019, @04:18AM (4 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday November 04 2019, @04:18AM (#915594) Homepage Journal

          I would but I'm old and can't hold my cellular device close enough to my eyes (and still be able to focus on it) that it has the same apparent screen size as the big ole TV does from my bed. Getting old is annoying.

          --
          My rights don't end where your fear begins.
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @04:28AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @04:28AM (#915596)

            Old? Sounds like you're a candidate for the body bank. Don't worry, your involuntarily donated organs will enrich the 1%.

            • (Score: 2, Disagree) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday November 04 2019, @05:15AM (2 children)

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday November 04 2019, @05:15AM (#915614) Homepage Journal

              Joke's on them then, none of them are worth having except the brain and the penis.

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              My rights don't end where your fear begins.
              • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @05:59AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @05:59AM (#915626)

                Yes, we know you have the world's smallest brain and the world's smallest penis.

      • (Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Monday November 04 2019, @04:53AM

        by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Monday November 04 2019, @04:53AM (#915604) Journal

        Was a game on Spectrum too.

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    • (Score: 4, Funny) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Monday November 04 2019, @03:54AM (1 child)

      by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Monday November 04 2019, @03:54AM (#915581)

      social media controls politics today just as predicted in 1987.

      Is that Orwell's less successful novel about the tyranny of social media?

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @04:22AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @04:22AM (#915595)

        Max Headroom, TV Series (1987–1988) [imdb.com]

        The overall premise was of mega-corporations using television networks to control politics and government, but today big tech social media corporations own the streaming video platforms that are replacing television. See Amazon Prime Video, Apple TV+, Facebook Watch, and Google YouTube.

  • (Score: 2, Disagree) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Monday November 04 2019, @03:50AM (8 children)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Monday November 04 2019, @03:50AM (#915576)

    Google itself confirms the politician's firm, by cooly stating that *they alone* are what people expect Congress to be.

    That alone should be scary enough to prompt an emergency tear-up of this threat of a company...

    • (Score: 2) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Monday November 04 2019, @03:52AM

      by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Monday November 04 2019, @03:52AM (#915579)

      "fears", not "firm". Yeah autocorrect...

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @04:31AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @04:31AM (#915597)

      Congress is old people. Social media influencers don't even need to be old enough to vote for those geezers.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Monday November 04 2019, @05:04AM (5 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 04 2019, @05:04AM (#915607) Journal

      Google itself confirms the politician's firm fear

      [Citation needed] - note: "Project Veritas" (straight lying) or reclaimthenet.org (tabloid style, think dailyfail.uk "on a computer") do not qualify as citation sources.

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      • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @05:15AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @05:15AM (#915613)

        Undercover video is a primary source.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Monday November 04 2019, @05:26AM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 04 2019, @05:26AM (#915615) Journal

          If release in full.

          When it's edited, it acts as Richelieu's "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him."

          So, again, "Project Veritas" is NOT credible as a source of citations.

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        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @05:49AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @05:49AM (#915622)

          If I selectively quote your sentence 'I suc coc' is a quote from a primary source.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @05:43AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @05:43AM (#915620)

        Remember when they 'caught' people selling baby parts then had to walk the whole thing back when it turned out they were COMPLETELY FULL OF SHIT?

        Yeah....I remember that.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @04:01AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @04:01AM (#915585)

    was right about Google

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Monday November 04 2019, @04:51AM (1 child)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 04 2019, @04:51AM (#915602) Journal

    'Twas scummy content then, it's still scummy content now [soylentnews.org].
    It's nothing new, the fucking non-story the brain-let-free-over-weekend eds pushed was published on the linked shyte site in June 24 2019 - go check the date if you don't believe it.

    Note to eds: I thought that you already know it: whenever receiving submission involving "Project Veritas" and "reclaimthenet.org", be sure and double-sure is not a scum, scam or just trolling. Especially with a submission from an aristachus-wannabe lame whinger** [soylentnews.org].

    ** If it's not self-evident already, let me put it in clear: letting aside aristarchus is right (the only way he can be right-leaning), in the matter of style, nobody can beat the magister's whinging, he developed his along at least two millennia of practice.

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    • (Score: 1) by Fock on Tuesday November 05 2019, @12:12AM

      by Fock (5105) on Tuesday November 05 2019, @12:12AM (#916040)

      From that submission,

      I think reasonable people would say, at a minimum, posting illegally-obtained material to the internet warrants a ban.

      So the Pentagon Papers and everything Wikileaks published and every leak that comes out of Washington shouldn't be published? Every reporter in the free world would disagree with you and martyb

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @05:39AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @05:39AM (#915619)

    Why do we care what the people who have REPEATEDLY been caught releasing fraudulent videos say?

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @06:43AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @06:43AM (#915637)

      Why do we care what the people who have REPEATEDLY been caught releasing fraudulent videos say?

      We actually don't.

      No use of blaming the submitter, though; everyone here knows he's the village idiot, he gets a pass from us not fa.... err... politically correct to blame a mentally retarded person.
      If you want to blame someone, blame it on the eds, they are overworked enough, they won't find time to object.

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday November 04 2019, @10:42PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday November 04 2019, @10:42PM (#915995) Journal

      I watched the video of the CNN leaks. Zucker did say what PV reported he said. The CNN co-workers complaining over beers about what Zucker was doing was real also, and substantiates the central claim that Zucker was manufacturing its coverage rather than reporting the news.

      Did you watch the video?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @05:58AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @05:58AM (#915625)

    A convicted criminal says something, SN calls it news. News at 11.

    Got any crack dealer conspiracy theories to run next?

    • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday November 04 2019, @04:54PM

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 04 2019, @04:54PM (#915768) Journal

      Being a convicted criminal says that you got convicted, not that you're a liar. Being a politician says that you're a liar. (Every single one I've checked has been.)

      That said, I wouldn't trust Google here. They've got a clear interest in the issue being decided in a particular way. And corporate execs also don't have a good reputation for being honest.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @06:23AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @06:23AM (#915633)

    Another sketchy Runnyway1234 submission, with cites to Project Veritas, known felons? "Shocked, shocked I am that there is gambling going on in this establishment!" Adjuntant: "Sir, your 'winnings'."

    Takyon: "This could be the start of a beautiful relationship."

    Casablanca is only an album by a band in Fort Arkansaws [youtube.com], now.

  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @06:44AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @06:44AM (#915638)

    Is it possible that we could have a rather public "editor training" program of some sort? Sometimes I get the idea that our volunteers are just naive, and do not realize the liabilities of linking to such disgraced sources such as Brietbart and Project Veritas, and one's on the left, like, like, well, you know, like CNN. Such inability to be discriminate by Soylent Eds undercuts what little gravitas we have left. Runaway subs, accepted without critical review. We are done.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @06:59AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @06:59AM (#915641)

      Ed Training?

      No need for extra training, they are already a team of experts.
      They promote Runaway's submissions to fill the limited quota of political stories and then have reasons to refuse aristarchus' submissions.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Monday November 04 2019, @10:49PM (1 child)

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday November 04 2019, @10:49PM (#916000) Journal

      There is an editor training. I did it. It's thorough. Once I completed it, though, they told me they had enough editors and that they thought continuing to submit stories was a more valuable way for me to help the SN community. So, I did that instead of becoming an editor.

      One way to address your complaint here is for you to also undertake the training and become an SN editor yourself. Or you could submit stories from sources you like better. SoylentNews is People.

      All that said, Project Veritas might take people and organizations you like to task, but they do a heck of a lot better job at the journalism thing than most "reputable" sources you can point to these days. In fact, with their undercover video they remind me a lot of 60 Minutes in the 70's and 80's, back when the MSM still did investigatory journalism. For example, the recent story they broke about CNN's CEO Zucker manufacturing their broadcast, contrary to what the news of the day actually was, punctured what remains of the myth that that network does anything but propaganda.

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      • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Tuesday November 05 2019, @12:59AM

        by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 05 2019, @12:59AM (#916057) Journal

        Thanks for the rabbithole.

        The submission guidelines [soylentnews.org] and style manual [soylentnews.org] I knew of, but those didn't seem like what you were describing, so I dug deeper.
         
        I thought I might have found what you were talking about on the Editorial Team's page's Editing Process [soylentnews.org] but still I pressed on.

        Then I found the answer buried in the Editorial Policy [soylentnews.org]

        Training

        Before a new volunteer is accepted into the ET they must complete a period of training. While the responsibility for this rests with the EiC [(Editor in Chief)], he can nominate other editors to assist in this task. Editors must not assume that they can conduct training without having first been informed by the EiC that he is content for this to happen. There is no limit to the number of editors that can be nominated to assist in training.

        Having slaked my curiosity I'm off to watch cat videos and such.

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