OpenZFS removed offensive terminology from its code
On Wednesday evening, ZFS founding developer Matthew Ahrens submitted what should have been a simple, non-controversial pull request to the OpenZFS project: wherever possible without causing technical issues, the patch removed references to "slaves" and replaced them with "dependents."
This patch in question doesn't change the way the code functions—it simply changes variable names in a way that brings them in conformance with Linux upstream device-mapper terminology, in 48 total lines of code (42 removed and 48 added; with one comment block expanded slightly to be more descriptive).
But this being the Internet, unfortunately, outraged naysayers descended on the pull request, and the comments were quickly closed to non-contributors. I first became aware of this as the moderator of the r/zfs subreddit where the overflow spilled once comments on the PR itself were no longer possible.
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Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:
Microsoft's adoption of the Google-developed Chromium browser engine for Edge has resulted in a proposal to cleanse the open-source code of "potentially offensive terms."
Issue 981129 in the Chromium bug log lists a suggestion by Microsoft to “cleanup of potentially offensive terms in codebase” aims to rid the software blueprints of language such as whitelist (change to allowlist), blacklist (change to blocklist), “offensive terms using ‘wtf’ as protocol messages,” and other infelicities.
This bug report was raised by a Microsoft contributor, who stated: “We are just sharing a subset of what PoliCheck scanned for us,” Policheck being “a machine-learned model that another team manages that does context based scanning on hundreds of file formats.”
Googler Rick Byers, a Chromium engineer, gave the issue a cautious welcome, saying: "This sounds like a good strategy to me, thanks for doing this! We certainly have never intended for anything in the codebase to be potentially offensive, but I'm also not aware of anyone making an effort to find them all." He added:
I don't expect Chrome teams to necessarily make these bugs a priority (we haven't seen this pose a problem for us in practice as far as I know), but if cleaning this up is valuable for Microsoft (or any another Chromium contributor) then we should have no trouble getting the necessary code reviews (at least in the platform code). And yeah there are folks who look for GoodFirstBug and may want to pick up some easy commits.
Although changing comments or variable names in the source code is generally invisible to the user, this kind of revision can be problematic if it wrecks things like names in preferences and policies.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @12:13AM (18 children)
Now the crazies turned it into reality.
What else in the tech they use offends them?
The possibilities are endless.
(Score: 5, Touché) by PinkyGigglebrain on Saturday June 13 2020, @12:50AM (9 children)
Male/Female connectors probably. What if that HDMI jack on your video card self identifies as male?
"Beware those who would deny you Knowledge, For in their hearts they dream themselves your Master."
(Score: 4, Funny) by stretch611 on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:34AM (2 children)
I'd say that it was time to return the video card as defective.
After all, pretty much every cable out there is male/male and will not connect to a male jack on a video card. (Only a female jack which I sure some people will complain that it isn't a female Janet instead of Jack.)
Now with 5 covid vaccine shots/boosters altering my DNA :P
(Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:40AM (1 child)
If you bought a video card with an HDMI jack, I hate to tell you, but you got fooled by a "ladyboy" video card. Next time, double check that the card has an HDMI socket before buying it.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Saturday June 13 2020, @04:34AM
On the one hand I think it's pretty silly.
But on the other, holy shit look at all these triggered whiny little snowflakes! Trolling appears to go both ways and I've got to admit that it is fun to watch!
(Score: 3, Interesting) by corey on Saturday June 13 2020, @02:55AM (4 children)
In the electronics engineering world, they're known as plug and receptacle. Or jack and socket (less formal).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @03:51AM (1 child)
> In the electronics engineering world...
Except it was never actually that simple... Remember the D-sub connectors, as were ubiquitous not that long ago? Plugs can have pins or holes to accept pins, as can sockets. Granted, there were some standards, but in those days "standards" were even less standard than they are today, and I have a big box of examples to this effect. There are other examples, but that was a common one.
and jacks don't mate with sockets, they are both synonymous with "receptacle" in your usage.
(Score: 2) by corey on Saturday June 13 2020, @09:50AM
Yeah my usage of jack and socket isn't a good example.
We used some Micro-D connectors a while back at work, where the receptacle I think was a series of solid pins with a plastic surround fill, and the plug's "pins" were actually metallic tubes for the receptacle solid pins to go into. Talk about confusing. Awesome connectors though. $300 each too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @06:06AM (1 child)
Jack is offensive!
I identify as Jill.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @08:30PM
Ok, boomer.
(Score: 3, Touché) by RS3 on Saturday June 13 2020, @03:45AM
We also have hermaphroditic connectors: https://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/hermaphroditic-connectors/24517 [digikey.com] and there are other designs. They prefer to be called "gender neutral" or "gender non-binary" but never "androgynous".
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:13AM
Only four years ago, Trump being president of the United States was an episode of the Simpsons.
Reality is stranger (and orders of magnitude worse) than fiction.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:23AM (6 children)
Eh growing up before political correctness was a big deal the master/slave bit on hard drives always seemed a little weird. How about the world changes, adapt or die? Does that fit with your libertarian survival of the fittest meritocracy ideals?
Master/slave isn't even a very good designation for the technical reality.
Just a bunch of angry people who don't like change, same as it ever was.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:31AM (2 children)
Changes are being forced through as fast as possible to take advantage of the current situation. If you don't like the changes, you are against BLM and must be cancelled forever. Welcome to the woke cultural revolution.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @02:07AM (1 child)
Weren't you lot saying that complaints about police brutality against black people was overblown? That the kkk was nothing to worry about? Etc. etc. etc.?
Yeah, your predictions suck, but hey 1A and all feel free to keep whinging your stupidity.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 15 2020, @12:01AM
Heh, fusty keeps whinging about "democrat downmods" like the partisan hack he is, and now the rightwing assholes are downmodding in retaliation. Hypocrisy as usual from the biggest losers around.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @03:31AM
Aren't you too forward for this stage of the plan? I thought your bosses wanted to repeal the Second Amendment first, before starting on reeducation camps.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Saturday June 13 2020, @10:10PM (1 child)
Keep in mind that one may survive better by breaking the rules than by adapting to the rules! Evolution doesn't work like you think it does nor is it libertarian.
Here, I don't know whether OpenZFS really needed to make the change for non-PC as alleged in the story, but look at the comment on the pull request.
It's flamebait and ridiculous. No wonder that there's drama over the whole thing. My take on this is that such obsessions (and the resulting tempests in teacups) can destroy projects (rather than make them more fit in the Darwinian sense).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @04:34PM
wooosh
and if a name change like this destroys a project then it was likely infested with white supremacists and/or idiots, as usual wake me up when there is an actual problem
(Score: 2, Disagree) by Username on Saturday June 13 2020, @12:17AM (11 children)
Do we really need to limit speech and vocabulary just so some do not get triggered? What about White Sheets? What about Black the color itself? Should we rename it deluminate or 0? Should Black be 00000000, or is it racist to say blacks are 0?
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @12:28AM (1 child)
Yes. Free software needs to be a safe space for the severely autistic. Eliminating all social interaction in the free software community through fear will do the trick.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:07AM
Please remove yourself and all like you from my safe space, the innertubes.
Kthxbye.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:26AM (3 children)
Who is limiting anyone?
You are free to use whatever terminology you want, but don't expect others to play by your rules. Normal people will move on, adopt the new terminology, and no one will care. Well, cept for people like you angry about more inclusive language.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:34AM
You are free to toe the line, shut up and accept the CoC, and maybe you won't be cancelled for being too white, cishet, or male.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @05:39PM (1 child)
Agreed. I am not a fan of the transgender pronoun thing either.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @08:58PM
Dick girl here. Butbut why does nobody use male pronouns with me? Can't you tell I have an extra 2mm of bone here on my face, and shirely your acute hearing must be able to distinguish between a real womyn's voice and mine? Why do you keep attacking cislesbians in the bathroom and misgendering them while you let me get in close to you where my sexy pheromones can hack your brain, and then the next thing you know it's too late and you feel all 9 inches of my girl cock sliding up tween your asscheeks pumping you full of girl jizz.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:44AM
Are you saying that you believe all blacks are naughty?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @03:31PM (2 children)
Spoken like someone who has never been triggered. PTSD is a horrible, horrible illness and more people have it than you think, you insensitive clod.
Getting triggered will leave you nauseous and shaking from the adrenaline overdose, unable to concentrate effectively from the cortisol overload, crying, and then you'll feel like you only ran two marathons this morning (from some other hormone misfire). Bonus embarrassment if you're a guy, because some assholes still take a dim view of men who cry for any reason at all.
And that's if you're lucky, and your health plan has paid for the extensive psychotherapy and biofeedback training required to manage the physical symptoms, and have your tranquilizers right handy.
You can live in ignorance and anger, or in knowledge and understanding. You've clearly got access to the internet, so don't tell us that you couldn't find out anything.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @08:40PM (1 child)
The GP may not have, but I have and this is a load of crap. Yes, PTSD is difficult to live with, in part because of how quickly one can get triggered, but Jesus H. Christ, if you avoid being triggered, you also avoid learning how to cope with being triggered.
Getting triggered does suck, but it's an inherent aspect of the diagnosis. Whether it's an unkind word spoken or just a random association that sparks the triggering, either way, the sufferer needs to figure out how to moderate their emotions or it's just going to continue to flare up. Ultimately people with PTSD can learn to regulate their emotional reactions to things, it's just a long term project that requires a great deal of work and self-control.
I'm definitely not saying that having those things can't help, just that you don't need most of that stuff to successfully recover from PTSD. I had it extremely bad when I was younger and apart from therapy and a bit of medication, I managed just fine without anything that's not available to anybody with access to mental health medical care.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:39AM
So even pussy assed victim-identifiers use the "fuck you, got mine" offense.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Sunday June 14 2020, @02:49AM
Black, black, black
Is the colour
Of my true love's hair.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Username on Saturday June 13 2020, @12:25AM (2 children)
If something can only do what it's told, never able to do what it wants and has no liberty, is it not a slave? Is it not being oppressed? Is the one controlling it not it's master? I would think people would anthropomorphize and sympathize with the slave instead of pretending it doesn't exist and calling it something else.
(Score: 4, Funny) by sjames on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:29AM (1 child)
Come and see the violence inherent in the system!!
(Score: 3, Funny) by Reziac on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:24AM
I see you've installed Server 2019.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 3, Funny) by krishnoid on Saturday June 13 2020, @12:29AM (8 children)
Instead they should use the familiar concept of "master and servant" -- I mean, it's a lot like life [youtube.com].
(Score: 3, Funny) by looorg on Saturday June 13 2020, @12:47AM (1 child)
I'm sure it would have collided with their desires and demands for absolute equality, or it would have been objected to on sexual grounds somehow. Them kinky master-slave drives. Who knows what they do when the lights are not blinking.
(Score: 4, Funny) by PinkyGigglebrain on Saturday June 13 2020, @12:52AM
what happens in your PC case STAYS in your PC case.
"Beware those who would deny you Knowledge, For in their hearts they dream themselves your Master."
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Saturday June 13 2020, @03:30AM (5 children)
And, that's what's appealing.
I had a co-worker who was triggered by the SPI bus nomenclature, she brought it up every time someone was explaining a circuit in a meeting.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @05:44PM
lmao
(Score: 3, Insightful) by RS3 on Sunday June 14 2020, @01:54AM (3 children)
Should we change it to "boss" and "grunt"? :) (I'm only half kidding...)
(Score: 3, Funny) by Reziac on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:26AM (2 children)
I suggest Bourgeoisie and Proletariat. (Also only half-kidding...)
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 3, Funny) by RS3 on Sunday June 14 2020, @05:19AM (1 child)
The haves and the have nots?
(Score: 3, Funny) by Reziac on Sunday June 14 2020, @05:44AM
Or the bits and the bitrots :)
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by looorg on Saturday June 13 2020, @12:42AM (7 children)
I honestly get more and more convinced that these people are completely and utterly crazy. They have no redeeming value in anything they do. They are just pure garbage and should be flushed from the gene pool.
What is it that they are thinking here? That the White Master device is whipping the poor black slave device to go and pick up bits in the datalake?
Isn't "dependents" almost as bad? After all he is telling them then that the dependent device is depending on the master telling it what to do. Since it has no free will or ideas of it's own. Someone else is in control of it. All it does is to obey and serve, like ... ohh .. A slave? I guess they could have been called SERVANT but then isn't that also just another word with bad connotation?
Perhaps calling them something like primary-secondary etc would have then made more sense, at least it would have told us where in the chain things are. That said I am still going to call them MASTER-SLAVE since it's describing a relationship and nothing else.
Just a thought then -- are male connectors raping the female connectors every time their prongs go into all the holes? I wouldn't be all to surprised, after all -- these people are fucking crazy.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:13AM (1 child)
Wow, triggered much?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:29AM
I think he got triggered juuuuust right. I can hear the
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Saturday June 13 2020, @03:34AM (3 children)
Yes, but then so are a lot of other people - even highly functional ones.
My coworker who was triggered by the S word eventually became so dissatisfied with her position that she quit and went to work for someplace up north. I doubt her circumstances materially improved - they offered her a nice promotion to try to retain her, but she left anyway. It was a wakeup call for me and my boss: if she deserved that promotion, then I certainly deserved that promotion, so we applied and I actually got it - so thanks for that.
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by Arik on Saturday June 13 2020, @03:54AM (2 children)
It's a real tragedy, when people who are competent in one area enter another and fuck up spectacularly.
It's a tragedy orders of magnitude greater in scope, when they manage to institute stupid rules based on their own mental malfunction.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @06:36AM (1 child)
Welcome to the 21st Century...the century where what passes for western civilisation finally manages to Oozlum as it hands the keys and management of our section of this dirtball asylum to the most defective of its decadent inmates.
I had the pleasure(?) of working alongside a prime example of a member of this novus ordo fatuorum, yech, i'm glad I'll not be around to see the fucked up society it and it's fellow momsers will create. Bowie almost got it right, he sang '..gotta make way for the homo superior...', that sentiment, I actually would agree with, unfortunately that's what these shits think they are compared to us whereas they're really just prime examples of homo rabidus..
The only amusing consolation is that they're eventually going to get eaten alive by the Islamic fundies that they're being careful not to offend (who most definitely do not share the delusional views of homo rabidus, but who have their own set of delusional views which are inherently oh-so-inimical to those espoused by our novus ordo fatuorum).
(insert something pithy here about chickens and roosts.... )
Oh Well, it's been a fun couple of thousand years...I'm off to listen to 'Dark Ages' by Jethro Tull to cheer myself up.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Saturday June 13 2020, @06:43AM
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Sunday June 14 2020, @03:28AM
Are you telling us that your hard drive never picked cotton??
Seriously... what you said.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 2, Touché) by fustakrakich on Saturday June 13 2020, @12:46AM
Whatever happened to secondary?
So what's the primary now? Deadbeat?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @12:47AM (2 children)
My girlfriend attained the title of "Slave" after quite a long number of years of dating (yes, we have a BDSM relationship).
Obtaining the title of Slave has been the pinnacle of the relationship and something she worked very hard for. It is a title that she is very fond of, and cherishes every day (and that other girls we date, also hope some day they can attain).
It is * offensive to us * that the term "slave" itself is now removed from software and the lexicon because others don't like it and whine about it.
Words mean different things to different people, and it is selfish for one group to usurp the word and its meaning from others (be it BDSM practitioners, hardware communications engineers..etc) .
It is crazy thinking like this that led to dystopic groups like The Taliban, ISIS, and other lunacy you see when everyone tries to accomodate any and all loonies that show up saying "I am a victim, I am offended you must obey me (or else we will burn down your town, call you 'racist' or get you fired'..etc)
(Score: 3, Insightful) by takyon on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:00AM
At the very least, "slavery" is not inherently racist, even when it is illegal or immoral.
Hey AC, remember this one [soylentnews.org]?
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:20AM
The Taliban and ISIS have an ideology based on cultural domination. They are not about to listen to "victims".
Sure, both ends of the political spectrum bend around towards authoritarianism. But only the right-wing ones, like your examples, are still functional when they get that extreme. The left-wing ones either fall to infighting, or they change ideology to create a new right wing with new winners and losers.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @12:54AM (37 children)
Let's honor BLM, Antifa, the media, and universities by using language they would approve:
Workers and Parasite.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:05AM (36 children)
Actually a (black) University Professor from Berkeley just posted a long anonymous letter about what he really thinks about BLM, and the "victim" lunacy enveloping the world around it...
Very insightful, everyone should read it..
Original link is here:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/anonymous-berkeley-professor-shreds-blm-injustice-narrative-damning-stats-and-logic [zerohedge.com]
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:36AM (34 children)
For those who don't want to bother reading the whole screed, here is the final words.
"I do not support BLM. I do not support the Democrat grievance agenda and the Party's uncontested capture of our department. I do not support the Party co-opting my race, as Biden recently did in his disturbing interview, claiming that voting Democrat and being black are isomorphic. I condemn the manner of George Floyd's death and join you in calling for greater police accountability and police reform. However, I will not pretend that George Floyd was anything other than a violent misogynist, a brutal man who met a predictably brutal end."
No matter how bad a person is the police should not get away with summary execution. Or did the "rule of law" suddenly go out the window for you rightwing authoritarians?
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:39AM (2 children)
lololol PS: article's author is "tyler durden"
Yup, let's get right on believing the validity of that article uh huh ayuuuup
For anyone non-crazy conservatives, please realize you're being bombarded with propaganda specifically crafted to make you angry and create division within US society.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/ [mediabiasfactcheck.com]
Nice sock puppets to mod that garbage up.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:56AM (1 child)
The woke cult have forced people to resort to anonymity and pseudonyms, lest they have their careers and lives destroyed.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @04:27AM
It is no secret who that turden is, but try another conspiracy angle. See how many attempts your think tank can come up with.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:46AM
I think you need to work on the old reading comprehension there, as that's exactly what the quoted bit says.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:47AM (3 children)
I condemn the manner of George Floyd's death and join you in calling for greater police accountability and police reform.
I do not worship the image of the BLM Pharaoh George Floyd or wish to purge American culture for his sake.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @04:31AM (2 children)
Well you're doing a shitty job of defending freedom then. You trade life for "muh racism" and want anyone to take you seriously? Freedom of association is a bitch, and no matter how hard you whine most people aren't going to want bigots in their lives. I will not ignore actual oppression for your feefees, and I won't get worried about the changing of some variable names because you're an idiot.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @06:37AM (1 child)
How have you determined that this anonymous poster is racist?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @11:52PM
Only some levels of bigotry would bother defending Floyd's murderer or the systems that led to such nazi fucks being allowed to pretend they are law enforcement.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Arik on Saturday June 13 2020, @02:36AM (24 children)
Slandering the dead is poor sport at best.
Even if it were true, he was handcuffed and secured in the back of the cruiser. Pulling him back out and executing him was still murder. Even if he were literally Hitler.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @02:42AM (6 children)
Even if it were true? He served time in Texas for aggravated burglary with a deadly weapon.
(Score: 5, Touché) by Arik on Saturday June 13 2020, @02:48AM (3 children)
So he completed his punishment?
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @06:49AM (2 children)
Punishment, meted out for the crimes mentioned.
His past actions do not somehow magically disappear just because he did some time, just ask the people affected by them.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @08:08AM (1 child)
So. Are you saying that George Floyd *deserved* to be murdered in cold blood because he'd been in prison?
Or are you saying that putting people in prison as punishment is insufficient and that anyone who is convicted of a crime should be executed?
Some combination of both?
Shit. I'd love to see Martha Stewart strapped to a gurney. And that guy who was (*gasp*) speeding the other day (when you pay a fine, you admit guilt and are now convicted of a crime) should taste the sweet release of death, especially because he cut me off. Cut me off will you? Off with your head!
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @11:19AM
No. Literally not one single person said his previous crimes justified his death. The topic was slandering the dead and the quote was "George Floyd was anything other than a violent misogynist, a brutal man who met a predictably brutal end."
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @03:32AM (1 child)
And what Minnesota law punishes crimes committed, and paid for, in Texas with summary execution?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @12:55AM
The law that gives cops guns and license to kill. Sorry- the law says "discretion", my bad.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @03:28AM (7 children)
Slandering the dead is poor sport at best, as you said just.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Saturday June 13 2020, @03:38AM (6 children)
He was still a syphilitic idiot, a mass murderer, and the man who lead his country to utter destruction.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @08:13AM
It's 'led' (l'ehd) if you mean the past tense of the verb 'lead" (l'ee'd).
Lead (pronounced l'ehd) is a noun and a heavy metal.
And you're welcome.
--The Usage Nazi
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @06:05PM (4 children)
Oh please. What a bunch of regurgitated Bolshevik propaganda where the good guy trying to free his country from foreign invaders and saboteurs is the bad guy. I always wondered how so-called Neo-Nazis could idolize a guy who was so crazy and killed so many innocent people in gas chambers...That's because it's a pile of bullshit.
watch Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @10:10PM (2 children)
https://imgur.com/gallery/nUtifYK [imgur.com]
This is an essay (text/html;charset=utf-8) with citations refuting that so-called documentary.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @11:58PM (1 child)
That is a horrible essay. He uses bad logic to make shitty and extraneous arguments. All you need to refute the "documentary" are the countless testimonies of the people that lived through it. Germany and WWII are very significant in recent history, and there are mountains of credible evidence.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @05:50PM
credible evidence for what exactly? typhus and starving? or bs gas chambers?
(Score: 1) by Arik on Thursday June 18 2020, @12:39AM
I said in that case I'd give him props for balls. Not brains.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @03:36AM (8 children)
Explain that to your Parteigenossen who are presently fighting the statuary. If you dare, that is.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Saturday June 13 2020, @03:44AM (7 children)
I'll do my best.
First, who are my Parteigenossen?
"fighting the statuary" - if you mean vandalizing historical monuments, I'm completely against that.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @03:46AM (6 children)
When you play an idiot too frequently, the mask does grow to be the face.
(Score: 1) by Arik on Saturday June 13 2020, @03:51AM
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Arik on Saturday June 13 2020, @04:45AM (4 children)
It's odd, I am not sure what this posters agenda is.
The Greek reminds of the fake Ari, he would say "parteigenossen." Shitty modern Greek, that's him.
Party member. Ok. But who do you think are my party members?
I've far less connection to the Republican and Democratic party than most of the country. I voted for the Democrat (I actually canvassed for him, and I was afraid my family would disown me for it at the time, it was probably 9 months before they spoke to me again) to get rid of a particularly shitty Republican. I voted for a 'publican to get rid of a really shitty Demonicrat too. Mostly I vote Pirate (1) Libertarian (2) Green (3) NOTA (4=2=1.)
You trying to say antifa are my party members? Now you're closer to the truth but still not close.
I have absolutely zero connection to anybody that assaulted Andy Ngo, or anyone that condoned or defended it. That particular assault turned me more-or-less permanently against Rose City.
Rose City is not the be all and end all. I'm not gonna give up on the movement because a few cells got the wrong Wray-gun.
Years and years back I worked with cells of good people that were trying to prevent this hell. Antifascist action network, antiracist auxiliary, c'lina baldies, that's my blood.
As far as I'm able to trace it, those cells were infected from ~1998 forward with shit-memes. I will not tell you they're all infected; I don't know that, and I desperately hope that's not true. But at the least several very visible ones have been assraped with the borg priapus. When you go out in the streets to fight white supremacism and wind up beating a little American faggot from a Vietnamese ancestry senseless; bro.
Bro.
You been used.
Stop. Don't be a tool.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday June 13 2020, @10:35AM (3 children)
Finally, magister, a glimpse of hope.
Keep it on, one word at a time, and maybe we'll see S/N starting to accept submissions in languages that are not English. (grin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by Arik on Thursday June 18 2020, @12:50AM (2 children)
I think it's great to throw in bits of whatever language you actually know; and expect the reader to be able to figure it out. But I feel a bit betrayed when I wind up getting a native speaker to review and confirm that you're just using google translate or a bilingual dictionary without a clue what you're actually saying. And I would feel a main page submission that wasn't in English and did not include a good (human) translation to English was a bit of dirty pool; even if it were a language I am able to read fluently myself.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Thursday June 18 2020, @01:20AM (1 child)
What's a few hundred years when you (aristarchus) already lived for 2300? (grin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by Arik on Friday June 19 2020, @02:27AM
I am true Ari'. Ari' ben Yehuda. The Lion of Judah. Shæmshåm Herkulitiriot. The true Samson behind the legends of the Herculean one.
He, or she or nêêêêê omdenvill was probably a slug when I was carving the stars into the pillars at Çatalhöyük.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @09:25AM
Two things.
1) I agree, the source is highly suspect
However!
2) The source of the article is irrelevant. The real issue is, people... all people (including me), get pulled into 'the source makes it a sensible article'.
For example, by adding a (I presume) made up, unvalidated source such as a "Black Berkeley History Professor", people give more credence to the article. Yet, what is the relevance of this specific, likely falsehood?
*Nothing*.
Why?
Well, if you read the NYT, or Fox News, should you immediately read and think "OK, I read it on the NYT/FN, therefore all of this is correct!". No. Not even remotely.
In fact, you should aspire to read EVERYTHING, from every source, and not fall prey to the logical fallacy of ad hominem attacking the source. You should read from the entire political spectrum, and by hyper critical of EVERYTHING YOU READ, regardless of source! And you should read from MANY MANY DIVERGENT sources.
Another poster here 'lolol' this article. It should not. Instead, it should read this thread, and Fox News, and CNN, and the NYT, and Russia Today, and the BBC, and all manner of other sources.
Otherwise? One is merely masturbating!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @02:13AM
If the letter was anonymous how do you know who posted it?
(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:02AM (3 children)
Get a grip people. This is f-ing stupid. Don't cave to a minuscule group of people that cant control themselves and act like children.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:23AM (2 children)
Go back to your safe space you snowflake.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:45AM (1 child)
And turn in your Master Card.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @12:58AM
Can I keep my Visa?
(Score: 3, Funny) by AssCork on Saturday June 13 2020, @01:49AM (1 child)
And I am offended by any word that references the concept of a "copy".
Just popped-out of a tight spot. Came out mostly clean, too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @04:33AM
The apache attack helicopters have been deployed to silence you. Let the war of incels begin!
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @02:07AM (2 children)
Nobody else commenting bothered to read TFS?
"Virtue" signalling, pig whistling, whatever it is y'all are doing, you look damn stupid.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2020, @03:44AM
Other eternally offended ones, who else.
We see this game time and again with "harmonizing the laws" around copyrights; push something bad through in one place, spread it around like cancer, rinse, repeat.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 14 2020, @01:02AM
> Nobody else commenting bothered to read TFS?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! That's hilarious! Do you know where you are, or did you lose your way and stumble in here? RTFA!! So funny! Maybe 1/10 read TFS on a good day.