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U.S. Orders China to Close Its Houston Consulate in 72 Hours (archive)
The United States ordered China to close its diplomatic consulate in Houston, the Chinese foreign ministry said on Wednesday, dealing another blow to the rapidly deteriorating relations between the two countries.
In the hours after the Trump administration notified the Chinese of its decision, smoke was seen billowing from a courtyard inside the consulate as employees dumped what appeared to be documents into flaming barrels, according to a video posted by KPRC-TV, a local television station.
The Houston police and fire departments responded to reports of a fire on Tuesday evening but did not enter the building, over which the Chinese have sovereignty.
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(Score: 5, Interesting) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 22 2020, @06:44PM (20 children)
The state department claims China is violating diplomatic immunity for wanting to test and quarantine American diplomats returning to China [reuters.com]
They expect the virus to respect diplomatic protocol:
Oh the irony!
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday July 22 2020, @07:00PM (17 children)
DOJ: Chinese hackers stole "hundreds of millions of dollars" of secrets [arstechnica.com]
It might have been better to combine them into one story, but oh well.
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(Score: 2, Interesting) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 22 2020, @07:08PM (16 children)
DOJ "alleges"...
Of course! That's the daily to run on the wire... goes without saying
Please, from this government, even the hurricane forecasts are suspect
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @07:12PM (15 children)
I enjoyed the images of Ugyhurs being transported by train. Fun stuff.
(Score: 0, Troll) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 22 2020, @07:31PM (14 children)
C'mon, it's a long ride [alarabiya.net]
And you're sure the pictures are real, right? I mean, why would anybody wanna lie about this?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @07:51PM (10 children)
Your defense of China is amazing. It reminds me of leftwing apologetics to the national socialist party of Germany before the war.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 22 2020, @07:54PM (9 children)
"Defense of China"... very funny
However, all your war mongering can only lead to tragedy.. You should have learned something from the last one they lied you into... Evidently not... Oh well...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:12PM (4 children)
Criticizing China is war mongering! That is prime apologia. I can't wait to hear more. Democracy? With its lies and falsehood which the West propagate to weaklings halfwits and cowards to be overtaken by the strong united CCP lead by Xi.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:18PM
Don't give fustakreature a hard time. He won't realize there's a Cold War happening until a decade after it's over.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 22 2020, @09:37PM (2 children)
Criticizing China is war mongering! That is prime apologia.
*sigh* get the beam outta your eye
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by khallow on Wednesday July 22 2020, @11:39PM
Heal thyself, physician.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 23 2020, @04:17AM
Flamebait
War mongers UNITE!
psychotic!
(Score: 4, Informative) by hemocyanin on Thursday July 23 2020, @12:08AM (3 children)
Which party is attempting to pass legislation to PREVENT Trump from withdrawing troops?
From Germany: https://news.antiwar.com/2020/06/18/democrats-introduce-bill-to-block-trumps-withdrawal-of-troops-from-germany/ [antiwar.com]
From Afghanistan: https://thehill.com/policy/defense/505568-house-panel-votes-to-constrain-afghan-drawdown-ask-for-assessment-on [thehill.com]
Who are the warmongers these days? Who endorses censorship or cultishly adhering to anti-scientific principles? Who wants to export all the jobs possible, and import cheap labor to destroy wages in those positions which can't be exported? It's like being in a time traveling body switching B movie sci-fi and it's 1985 but Republicans and Democrats have switched places.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 23 2020, @12:18AM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this.
Although the dems were pretty censorship-happy in those days as well. Anyone remember Frank Zappa testifying to congress about the first amendment?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday July 23 2020, @06:11AM (1 child)
Republicans and Democrats have switched places.
But remain on the same team... It is symbiotic, like ants and aphids
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 23 2020, @08:56PM
exactly. it's all run by the same supranational interests.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:35PM
The Chinese government admitted they were real. The thing is they don't give a shit because the know nothing is going to happen anyway.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by HiThere on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:35PM (1 child)
We can't be sure the pictures are real. Not without personal inspection, either in person or by someone we trust.
That said, that doesn't mean that the US government is telling the truth either. Both sides are lying their heads off, and you can't really tell which stories bear any relation to reality, you can only guess. My *GUESS* is that the Chinese are being unreasonably brutal to the Ugyhurs, but it's a guess. And one doesn't need to look very hard to find images of the US govt., or at least its apparent agents, being equally brutal. One may guess that it's more frequent in China, and that's plausible, but it's a guess. Trusting either side is foolish, and both sides are manipulating the media.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 22 2020, @09:29PM
You know, the US doesn't look too kindly on people who join foreign militias either. Maybe it would be better if China used foreign rendition so nothing untoward happens on their own territory
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:47PM (1 child)
Travel bans against the US are the new hotness.
We're the dirty disease ridden foreigners now baby!
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 22 2020, @09:07PM
"Cootiestan"!
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Troll) by SomeGuy on Wednesday July 22 2020, @06:47PM (26 children)
I think Trumpboy has forgotten that China basically owns the US. Almost none of that precious Personal Protective Equipment junk is made in the US (or anything else). Where do you think all that money came from for Trump's stimulus? Yet he keeps going and pissing them off. Can we just get this over with and launch the nukes already? Conveniently, that would solve the virus problem too.
(Score: 4, Informative) by canopic jug on Wednesday July 22 2020, @07:19PM (4 children)
It goes deeper than manufacturing, China really does own part of the US [treasury.gov], just over a trillion dollars worth actually. That's $1,083,700,000,000 specifically or about 16% of the debt. Controlling shares in a corporation would be well under 8%. There's nothing left to fight over, it's all been sold.
Money is not free speech. Elections should not be auctions.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @07:44PM (3 children)
Those are obligations. The US has China's money already. If you think "The Chinese are going to get pissy and try to hurt us by dumping them" -- it won't hurt the US. They can try to find someone else to buy the obligations from them on the secondary market; the US will keep on making payments as promised to whoever holds them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @09:23PM (2 children)
Or seize their US assets for imminent domain. Property, businesses, bank accounts, etc.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday July 22 2020, @09:44PM
*Eminent Domain.
eminent: "exhibiting eminence especially in standing above others in some quality or position : PROMINENT" - in the case of eminent domain, "it's more important for the government to own this than you"
It doesn't help that this is actually one of *three* words that sound extremely similar.
imminent: "ready to take place : happening soon"
immanent: "INDWELLING, INHERENT"
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday July 22 2020, @11:42PM
Then the US seizes Chinese assets in an even more theatrical display. Property, businesses, bank accounts, etc.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Thexalon on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:05PM (9 children)
Nobody actually wants to fight that war, because both sides stand to lose far more than they stand to gain.
China doesn't want to deal with the economic fallout of losing the biggest market for their goods on the planet. That's why they keep on propping up the US government and the US dollar.
The US doesn't and probably couldn't deal with the economic fallout of losing access to China's import goods. That's why they keep on letting the Chinese do pretty much whatever they want.
And this reasoning goes for both conventional and nuclear warfare. And contrary to popular belief, the leaders on both sides can't just press a button to start it, so as long as there's some not-crazy people in between them and the people who are actually on duty at the missile facilities there's a decent chance that even an insane leader wouldn't succeed in setting off the apocalypse.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 3, Funny) by HiThere on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:38PM (1 child)
I just wish we has odds a bit better than "a decent chance".
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 2) by Dr Spin on Thursday July 23 2020, @08:38AM
With Trump in charge, you may end up wishing for even an indecent chance (Think of the children).
Warning: Opening your mouth may invalidate your brain!
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:45PM (2 children)
Agreed. China depends very much on selling to the US to keep their people employed. They have been walking a tightrope for some years now, such that if their economic growth falls below 8%, I think it is, then the social unrest becomes untenable, but if it climbs into the double digits then they risk their economy overheating. They have been trying to buffer that dynamic by requiring investment to target central Chinese provinces and cities, in order to stimulate their domestic market, but that hasn't really panned out and meanwhile they have forbidden the development of civil society like the West enjoys because it's a challenge to government power.
That's less true now than it was 10 years ago. Companies have begun to branch out from China to Vietnam, the Philippines, and other places with lower labor costs. There are also still plenty of Americans with the skills and desire to start companies in the US to manufacture consumer goods, if only the policy from Washington weren't constantly undermining them. At the end of the day, it really isn't difficult to set up injection molding to mass produce plastic wares, and you can do it affordably if you don't have a union monkey on your back (for example, the cost of the UAW contracts adds something like $5K to every vehicle made by the Big 3 and puts them at a significant disadvantage on price).
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 26 2020, @08:26AM (1 child)
Mod that funny!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 26 2020, @08:59AM
Riotous Portlanders are the exception, not the rule.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday July 22 2020, @10:13PM
That is all true, and there is also the way the US Navy can go cap in hand to Congress and ask for eleventy-twelve billion more dollars for some new aircraft carriers and missiles, which is what all this sabre-rattling is all about.
(Score: 5, Informative) by legont on Thursday July 23 2020, @12:50AM (1 child)
There is an excellent book on economy where the author argues this over 700 pages from all the angles and indisputably proves it right. The war is impossible.
It was printed just five years before WWI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Illusion [wikipedia.org]
Highly recommended fascinating reading.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 2) by gtomorrow on Thursday July 23 2020, @01:22PM
And yet, five years after from this author's POV...the "impossible" happened.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 23 2020, @01:04PM
They may not want it but end up getting it anyway. China has definitely become more openly aggressive in the area, and it's not just against the US (Japan, India, etc). All it takes is one serious miscalculation on how far and fast they can push and we could get a war between China and someone that ends up drawing in others.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:14PM (3 children)
Trumpboy is simply looking for reasons to "appear strong." If they're not going to give him any kind of trade deal that he can claim is the world's best deal that is totally one-sided for the US and that ONLY HE could have pulled it off, then he has no use for them between now and November. Now he wants to look like he is some kind of leader or something. He also drastically needs distractions away from his disastrous covid response too, which is why he's turning up the paramilitary stuff as well as the obviously unconstitutional census executive order. "Look at all this crazy shit! Don't look at the 140,000 dead people!"
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:26PM (2 children)
China has been robbing the US blind for a long time, but Trump is not taking the threat seriously. He tries to cozy up to Xi all the time and has praised their concentration camps. Biden is getting tougher on China, but it's his VP that matters.
(Score: 3, Touché) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday July 22 2020, @10:15PM (1 child)
None of that is true. If I was allowed to moderate on this site, I would mod this comment -1 Delusional
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @10:41PM
Good thing you're not then.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Frosty Piss on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:25PM (2 children)
Not so. It is well within the ability for our government to call all those financial interests null and void. It is also well within the US Government’s ability to cut off China’s primary money source, the US consumer. We hold the cards, not China.
(Score: 5, Informative) by HiThere on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:41PM (1 child)
If you do that, you destroy the credibility of the US currency on all international markets. Yeah, you can do it. But if you do be prepared to do all your trading in Euros.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday July 22 2020, @10:50PM
1. petroyuan [wikipedia.org] will be more credible than petrodollar [wikipedia.org]
2. Inflation - when there is more money than goods. When China stops exports to US (because USD is now junk currency), you can bet your ass the inflation in US skyrockets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by ChrisMaple on Thursday July 23 2020, @12:09AM (2 children)
"This aught to be fun" Why do illiterates bother to post?
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 23 2020, @01:55AM (1 child)
Why do illiterates bother to post?
To make your head assplode!
Live with it, bub!
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 23 2020, @08:15AM
I was going to look up the spelling then this post won the internets today sir.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 23 2020, @12:13PM
Fortunately, we'll make up for that in efficiency gains, synergy and whatever other buzzwords aren't out of stock.
Sadly, the people making the decisions about these disastrous trade deals seem to have learned nothing from any of it.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by looorg on Wednesday July 22 2020, @07:41PM (6 children)
Isnt that just standard operating procedure? Burn, destroy, what you cant take with you. All consulates/embassies/outpost-of-any-kind do it, don't they? Its just so inconvenient when your friends/enemies find things they shouldnt find.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @07:47PM
Yes it is, and the documents don't all have to be local information -- looking at the reconstructed documents from the US fleeing its embassy in Tehran, there's a lot of confidential papers that get sent to different stations around the world.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 22 2020, @07:49PM (1 child)
Isnt that just standard operating procedure?
Yeah [wikipedia.org], shredding isn't very effective [bbc.com]
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @12:53AM
Shred first, then burn. Bankers boxes full of intact documents don't burn very well in my experience, even with a hot fire.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday July 22 2020, @07:56PM
Yes, it's not unexpected, just amusing.
In China's case they might have documents that could link back to some of their spies in the U.S., so it's definitely important to get rid of them. Shredding is not 100% effective, they have a tight deadline, so burning barrels it is.
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(Score: 5, Interesting) by Thexalon on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:13PM
My understanding, from hanging out with a kid of US Foreign Service Officers, was that getting rid of this stuff as thoroughly as possible is also part of the procedure when there's a significant chance of the embassy / consulate having its security breached. They'll try to get it out via diplomatic pouches and vehicles and such if they can, but if they can't then it's incinerated, because the consequences of destroying stuff is less than the consequences of things that shouldn't get out getting out and you don't have time to sort everything. Also, in those circumstances there is no such thing as an adult civilian - everyone will be issued a flak jacket and weapon, and will be ordered about just like troops are.
The kid in question got to experience this all in 1991, in Moscow.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by EvilSS on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:33PM
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @07:53PM (1 child)
Which consulate are the Chinese going to close? The US is hoping they will pick Wuhan, a city of similar significance, and the consulate there has been vacated for months already.
To hurt the US, I would pick Shanghai. That would force people to detour to Guangzhou, Beijing or Wuhan which they may have to reopen then. Shanghai is also the toniest city for well-off foreign diplomatic staff to live in.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday July 22 2020, @07:56PM
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:07PM (17 children)
I've mentioned in the past, that we were sending a lot of our manufacturing ability to China. There was some sort of brain fart, people in China made demands on the parent company. In response, our people stopped the shipment of every mold still in transit, and had them returned to the plants where they originated.
Industrial espionage is common, theft of intellectual property is ongoing, nothing slows it down.
I've been bitching for years about all the politicians who are making personal fortunes, while selling out the United States. Remember the magic underwear guy? Mitt Romney made his money selling American jobs to the Chinese - then the rotten bastard wanted us to make him president?
Yeah, people, Trump bad. But, at least he's AMERICAN BAD!! Fuck the Chinese.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:35PM (10 children)
Yeah, people, Romney bad. But, at leas he's AMERICAN BAD!! Fuck the Russian owned pedophile traitor Trump.
Since you don't believe the "Russia Hoax" oh silly old fart, please explain the unprecedented multiple private meetings Trump has had with Putin, the attempts to conceal every aspect of those meetings from anyone in the US, along with the various GOP members who have met with Putin and specifically the 4th of July visits to Moscow https://www.npr.org/2018/07/06/626664156/gop-senators-spend-july-4-in-moscow [npr.org] or Rand Pauls hand delivery of a message https://www.npr.org/2018/08/09/636982295/is-it-springtime-for-putin-and-republicans [npr.org]
Oh right, not to mention Trump's own words https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/05/30/donald-trump-acknowledges-russia-helped-his-election-then-backtracks/1221107001/ [usatoday.com] and https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/02/donald-trump/donald-trump-rewrites-history-about-his-russia-if-/ [politifact.com] where he uses his patented "Put the crime right out in the open and claim it is a joke" method of sidestepping his crimes. Once they found the evidence of Russian interference it was really hard to prove intent since Trump "joked" about it on live television. Pay no mind to the Trump Tower Moscow project, definitely no conflict of interest for #45.
Keep being a sucker if you want, the rest of the country is done with you fools and traitors.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @09:10PM (9 children)
>please explain the unprecedented multiple private meetings Trump has had with Putin
My tin foil hat is shiny side in. The planets aligned. Jet fuel can't melt steal beams. 2+2=5. And the earth is flat. All amount to the same evidence as the Russia Hoax.
> Once they found the evidence of Russian interference
I take it you have not been following any of the recent developments into the Russian interference and "Trump Russia collusion" conspiracy? Let me paraphrase the recent findings. Hillary Clinton used Steele to produce the Dossier that was known to the FBI as lies but was still used to spy on Trump campaign through multiple FISA applications where the FBI lied to the judges. The FBI knew they had nothing. They knew Clinton paid for it. The FBI also then knew that people like Flynn did nothing wrong but broke procedure to get him fired by threatening his son.
Russian interference was a few Facebook ads. Do you want to talk about the interference social media companies are doing now in an effort to change the election?
What the Mueller investigation did find is that Trump is remarkably clean.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @09:11PM (3 children)
Clean, that's the word that did it for me +1 Funny
(Score: 2, Informative) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday July 22 2020, @10:36PM (2 children)
It could have been anything in that post really, but yeah "clean" was pretty funny.
I also enjoyed the repeated lies. That A/C listens to Rush Limbaugh. I would put money on it.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @10:51PM (1 child)
It'd be money you'd lose.
I take it you haven't seen anything from Horowitz report, the Flynn case, or the recent Durham investigation declassifications?
A few years ago, it was acceptable to have some doubt. Now? People need to be jailed. It's not acceptable to have the FBI do what they did.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday July 23 2020, @01:20AM
It was (mildly) funny once, but if you keep repeating it you just come across like some sort of flat-earth conspiracy theorist.
(Score: 2) by Mykl on Wednesday July 22 2020, @10:44PM (3 children)
C'mon - even many Trumpers openly admit that Trump is anything but clean. He's been playing dirty his whole life - that's what a lot of his voters love about him!
Do you really think that it's not at all suspicious that Trump has had multiple meetings with Putin where he has gone well out of his way to ensure that nobody finds out what was discussed? Please mention one other politician that he has done this for. Bonus points if it's an "ally".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @10:54PM
I think that if anything had been found it, that would have been what he would have been impeached for instead of reaching for out of context statements.
>Do you really think that it's not at all suspicious that Trump has had multiple meetings with Putin where he has gone well out of his way to ensure that nobody finds out what was discussed?
No more so than I think it's suspicious that jet fuel can't melt steal beams.
(Score: 2) by ChrisMaple on Thursday July 23 2020, @12:06AM
Ted Kennedy's treasonous collaboration with the USSR is pretty well established.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday July 23 2020, @12:13AM
What's supposed to be suspicious about that?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday July 23 2020, @02:06AM
What the Mueller investigation did find is that Trump is comparably clean.
You know, compared to all those congress people with 40 years of high living
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:53PM
Donald Trump May Want to Increase China Tariffs, Yet These Trump Products are 'Made in China' [news18.com]
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday July 22 2020, @11:04PM (2 children)
Just be careful who you pick to rape, you may finish with a piece of meat in your mouth hard to swallow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 23 2020, @10:09AM (1 child)
Dog meat?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 23 2020, @10:52AM
Come to think of, a red hot erect one with a yuuuge tremendous red knot, belonging not to a lapdog but to a wild one.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @02:34AM (1 child)
Mitt Romney is the only R to have the balls to impeach T. He is my hero and certainly would have been a better POTUS.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 24 2020, @02:49AM
There you have it, folks. AC despises one crooked bastard who loves America, and loves another crooked bastard who hates America.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @08:30PM
interesting tactics. next time my rent is due i will make fire in barrel with paper and see if the renter will let me stay ...
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 22 2020, @09:46PM (9 children)
Putting a former tank commander in charge of the State Department has to be one of the most boneheaded moves I've ever seen a President engage in, ever. That makes Bush, Junior look like a fucking genius in comparison (and, indeed, he's not that stupid).
It's like they don't know the meaining of the word "diplomacy", or as if they all want to be Winston Churchill, and quip that diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggie' whilst looking for a stick - that only works if the other party is an animal and it doesn't work at all if the other fellow is your equal or even, perhaps, your superior. It doesn't work that well with dogs, either.
Being in the limelight does not go with engaging in negotiations. One cannot negotiate via headlines. Nor can one negotiate via Twitter. Not everyone wants (or needs) to micromanage their people. Some actually want to delegate the work to professionals. People WITHOUT Twitter handles. At some point, people who trust one another not to murder or kidnap each other must meet and have frank and uncensored discussions. By definition, anyone who cultivates a public persona is probably not suited for the job; they are at best a figurehead, announcing and summarizing the work of the REAL diplomats.
Pompeo should stick to being a stuffed shirt. He does that well.
~childo
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday July 22 2020, @10:38PM (6 children)
What is with the posting as an A/C then signing your post?
(Score: 2) by PinkyGigglebrain on Wednesday July 22 2020, @11:40PM
They might not have been able to log in at their current location.
"Beware those who would deny you Knowledge, For in their hearts they dream themselves your Master."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 23 2020, @12:12AM (1 child)
Not a user
https://soylentnews.org/~childo/ [soylentnews.org]
Maybe a salutation chill dude
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday July 24 2020, @01:10PM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 23 2020, @08:23AM
In the olden days blank paper, blank walls, blackboards, caves etc, wasn’t all pre labelled “anonymous coward”. So people took to signing off at the end of their scrawl.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday July 24 2020, @01:07PM (1 child)
(Score: 2) by takyon on Friday July 24 2020, @01:11PM
Internal search is probably better for that:
https://soylentnews.org/search.pl?tid=&query=childo&sort=2&op=comments&threshold=0&sid= [soylentnews.org]
I notice a bug though. Setting threshold to -1 should return the same or more results, not 0.
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(Score: 0, Troll) by khallow on Thursday July 23 2020, @12:17AM (1 child)
Is there something about former tank commanders that you should be telling us? Or maybe we shouldn't be listening to a former diaper filler?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 24 2020, @02:54AM
I kinda think it's stupid to put any former 20 year olds in charge of anything. You never know when they'll have a flashback or something. Former tank commanders especially, are all known for being former 20 year olds.
(do I really need a /sarcasm here?)
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by looorg on Friday July 24 2020, @05:56PM
Consulate in Chengdu has to shut down.
(Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Sunday July 26 2020, @01:51PM
Hong Kong's South China Morning Post is certainly not a pro-communist newspaper. Founded 117 years ago, with background in British school of journalism, and politically controlled from London, it provides strong and striking realism when informing about Eastasia all the time it exists. Especially Sunday edition.
It always been a very refreshing reading.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Morning_Post [wikipedia.org]
Current Headlines speak for themselves:
US Chengdu consulate races to meet Monday closure deadline as Chinese social media users target diplomat’s wife
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3094762/us-chengdu-consulate-races-meet-monday-closure-deadline [scmp.com]
Trump’s America has become an unstoppable, out-of-control bully
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/3094704/trumps-america-has-become-unstoppable-out-control-bully [scmp.com]
Will US bid to split the Chinese people from the Communist Party work, or is it wishful thinking?
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/3094443/will-us-bid-split-chinese-people-communist-party-work-or-it [scmp.com]
Donald Trump’s ‘Chinese lab’ theory may be weakened by FDA’s bat coronavirus discovery
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3094640/donald-trumps-chinese-lab-theory-may-be-weakened-fdas-bat [scmp.com]
China urges other nations to oppose US calls for more sanctions on Iran
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3093167/china-urges-other-nations-oppose-us-calls-more-sanctions-iran [scmp.com]
China, India forge peace on one border as other frictions emerge, this time in Iran
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3094591/china-india-forge-peace-one-border-other-frictions-emerge-time [scmp.com]
So. Americans living in their own reality bubble have little understanding about what's really going on in Hua Xia, a Chinese Civilization.
The edge of 太玄 cannot be defined, for it is beyond every aspect of design