Census Bureau director to resign amid criticism over data:
Facing criticism that he was acceding to President Donald Trump's demand to produce citizenship information at the expense of data quality, U.S. Census Bureau director Steven Dillingham said Monday that he planned to resign with the change in presidential administrations.
Dillingham said in a statement that he would resign on Wednesday, the day Trump leaves the White House and President-elect Joseph Biden takes office. Dillingham's term was supposed to be finished at the end of the year.
The Census Bureau director's departure comes as the statistical agency is crunching the numbers for the 2020 census, which will be used to determine how many congressional seats and Electoral College votes each state gets, as well as the distribution of $1.5 trillion in federal spending each year.
In his statement, Dillingham said he had been considering retiring earlier, but he had been persuaded at the time to stick around.
"But I must do now what I think is best," said Dillingham, 68. "Let me make it clear that under other circumstances I would be honored to serve President-Elect Biden just as I served the past five presidents."
[...] During Dillingham's tenure, the Trump administration unsuccessfully tried to put a citizenship question on the 2020 census questionnaire and named a handful of political appointees that statisticians and Democratic lawmakers worried would politicize the once-a-decade head count of every U.S. resident. The president also issued two directives that advocacy groups said were part of efforts to suppress the participation of minorities and immigrants in the 2020 census.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Frosty Piss on Tuesday January 19 2021, @09:37PM (5 children)
Doubtful he resigned over criticism of his data collection, Trump hired him. More likely he resigned because he saw the writing on the wall and knew it was time to move on. The Postmaster General will find himself in the same position as will many “political appointees”. SOP.
(Score: 3, Touché) by DannyB on Tuesday January 19 2021, @09:57PM (4 children)
If Trump hired him, I don't understand this then:
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @10:08PM (1 child)
Stock attacking the narrative, bigot! You are clearly a multi-racial whiteness supremacist!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @03:32AM
races are a lie
(Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Tuesday January 19 2021, @10:27PM (1 child)
In 2019. [census.gov]
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday January 19 2021, @10:42PM
Thank you. That does clarify.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 4, Touché) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Tuesday January 19 2021, @10:00PM
It's cenSUS bureau, not censorship.
He misread the job description, is all. Simple mistake... Can happen to anybody.
(Score: 2) by Snotnose on Tuesday January 19 2021, @10:01PM (49 children)
In other words, the guy fudged the numbers thinking Trump would be re-elected and is now facing Biden telling him to fuck right off and pound sand.
When the dust settled America realized it was saved by a porn star.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @10:19PM (2 children)
Care to back that up? Or should I call you Trump?
(Score: 2) by Snotnose on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:08PM (1 child)
Nope, far as I can see there is nothing about why he's stepping down. I'm just going on 4 years of history.
Why, do you have a reason why he's retiring now, instead of a month sooner or later?
When the dust settled America realized it was saved by a porn star.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:42PM
If he was a crony he probably would have bailed earlier, it sounds like combined with the minor scandal of the citizenship questions and the shame of being appointed by Trump he is probably leaving in order to not create unnecessary issues. Also he avoids getting dismissed if Biden wants to clean house, and since he was planning to retire anyway it is just easier. Seems like boilerplate politics.
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Tuesday January 19 2021, @10:44PM (3 children)
Actually, no other words have been said, and you're making this up. The article tells us zero about what the problem with this guy is, and the one example of Trump trying to misuse it, he pushed back on.
So until we know, here's an idea: There are a bunch of lawsuits pending against the bureau, likely due to orange clown tinkering. This guy tried to push back and maybe didn't get it all done, since orange clown loaded that whole office with his idiot cocksuckers. He's 68 years old. You know when people retire? I don't, but it's before fucking 68. I certainly wouldn't want to work at 68 and go through shoveling orange shit with a bunch of lawsuits that weren't my fault.
In other words, you made up a bunch of baseless shit to give you a reason to be angry at this guy, and are spreading your bullshit online. Just like trumptards do.
Congratulations on proving once again, that it's not left vs right. It's dumb faggots like yourself vs normal people.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:06PM
That's probably the case. I mean, you gotta figure he's the kind of guy [soylentnews.org] who knows when statistically, the odds would be stacked against him.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:49PM (1 child)
So far so good.
Interesting accusation, coming from you.
Oh, I see, it's okay for you to make shit up, but nobody else. Got it, troll.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Wednesday January 20 2021, @12:03AM
you didn't read the article. it literally describes what trump tried to do, how it was misuse. i get it though - me saying the article describes trump's failed attempt to misuse the census is me making shit up. because you didn't read the article.
here's another interesting one coming from me. your autism. it will never be fixed, you will never feel normal. you will be stuck in your own mind, a little too amped up with random small things, fixated on little stuff and never be able to let go despite wanting to. you're on a slow train, you know it's crashing, you're too much of a coward to jump off. but that didn't come from me. that came from the genetic mutation you have, causing something physical to be wrong in your brain. it came from your mother, and likely some substances she took while pregnant.
you'll never be normal. there's nothing you can do. you are trapped.
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @10:56PM (40 children)
Biden has thousands of new illegal alien voters on the way up from S. America right now. I don't think he cares what the census says.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:15PM (38 children)
That's NOTHING. Biden's about to give at least 12 MILLION existing illegals citizenship. And I bet millions more will come out of the woodwork.
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:33PM (37 children)
That's the thing: NO ONE KNOWS HOW MANY ILLEGAL ALIENS THERE ARE. When Clinton was president, they tossed around a figure of 20 million. We know that some years, more than a million came in. We know that some have gone home, deported, or chosen to go home, or whatever. We know that some have chosen to do the paperwork, and get naturalized. My own estimate is over 50 million currently in the US. But NO ONE KNOWS HOW MANY ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE HERE. It's all guess work.
Estimates of 12 million, or 20 million, or even 25 million are all preposterous. It was 20 million more than 20 years ago, and the influx has always been greater than any exodus since then. I'll go with 50 million, and be prepared to adjust that estimate upwards if necessary.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:47PM (9 children)
OH SWEET JESUS CHRIST WHO THE FUCK CARES?
Illegal immigrants pay into our system and very rarely get any benefits, aside from those paid entirely under the table. If that angers you then you'll want to go yell at all the legal citizens who get paid under the table as well.
Long story short, illegal immigrants are propping up our economy something fierce and the real economic issue we have is the wealth inequality and straight up handouts given to the already wealthy.
But please, let us hear more of your hysterical screaming about illegal immigrants *eye roll*
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:51PM (1 child)
Okay, you're getting your whiny way, so we'll all see what happens.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @12:10AM
The illegals have been here for a long time, and rather ironically it is generally conservative businesses that benefit from their labor. If calling me whiny makes you feel better and not go shoot up your local library then I'll allow it.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 20 2021, @02:06AM (6 children)
All lies. Illegals are eligible for Social Security benefits - did you know that?
Got any more talking points, sock puppet?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @02:21AM
Sock puppet? loool, I'm no mirror muh d00d.
As for the rest of your fake news bullshit, git edumacated ya ignint hillbilly!
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Wednesday January 20 2021, @03:05PM (4 children)
No, they are not. Eligibility requires being a citizen or a legal immigrant. An illegal immigrant may be actually receiving benefits (generally due to fraud), but doing so is illegal under Social Security rules.
The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 20 2021, @03:24PM (3 children)
Citation needed.
https://www.ssa.gov/ssi/spotlights/spot-non-citizens.htm [ssa.gov]
https://www.aarp.org/retirement/social-security/questions-answers/non-citizens-ss-benefits.html [aarp.org]
https://www.fool.com/retirement/general/2015/03/08/social-security-5-surprising-facts-about-noncitize.aspx [fool.com]
Oh, but wait . . . you mention fraud?
Take an individual who has worked for some years in the US illegally. He/she has already committed fraud, repeatedly and continuously, for years or decades. Would such a person stop at fraudulently filling out some forms for Social Security? Having retired to some Latin American country with a pile of cash already, will your retiree have any fear of consequences for committing fraud? He has already outsmarted the US legal system for 20 years or more, why fear now?
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Wednesday January 20 2021, @05:35PM (2 children)
You're the one who asserted that illegal immigrants are eligible for Social Security. They are not, period, end of sentence.
The fact that an illegal immigrant is getting benefits doesn't mean that they are eligible, it means that they are doing so illegally.
The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 20 2021, @05:42PM (1 child)
Perhaps I phrased it poorly. Illegal aliens are returning home, with all their savings, and applying for social security - and they are getting social security benefits.
But, left/lib/progressives continue to insist that aliens, legal or otherwise, only enrich the United States.
I insist that we are impoverishing ourselves with our naivete and idiot policies.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @06:25PM
"Perhaps I phrased it poorly. Illegal aliens are returning home, with all their savings, and applying for social security - and they are getting social security benefits."
What is wrong with your brain?
"The fact that an illegal immigrant is getting benefits doesn't mean that they are eligible, it means that they are doing so illegally."
So in this case we need more auditors if there are un-caught cases of fraud. But as usual these are drops in the bucket that conservatives cry crocodile tears over while cheering on Trump and the GOP handing out cash to already wealthy people over the last four years. Not only do you have to be stupid, but you insist on swallowing the hate-filled rhetoric they use to keep your eye on the immigrants.
What fucking losers, thankfully the demographics are switching up and the Capitalist Baron age is coming to a close. Hope it slowly fades instead of going down in a flurry of violence that no one will enjoy.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:56PM
A few years ago I'd heard that many were leaving the US. There certainly are FAR fewer Central American non-English speaking people in my area than say 10 years ago. Used to be ALL outdoor workers, especially yard workers, were Central American, but now it's mostly white and black Americans.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday January 20 2021, @12:22AM (19 children)
Yeah, and you know why there are so many of them here?
Slave labor. Illegals are essentially a slave caste and big businesses--mostly Republican owned!--fucking love it. If you want to do something about the illegal immigration problem, immediately revoke the corporate charter of any corporation found to have even one of them working, jail the C-suite and HR departments for 20+ years, seize their assets as well as the former company's, and sink it into immigration reform and refugee resettlement programs.
Of course if we did that, that questionable package of pig assholes and donkey lips in the meat case would shoot up to $15 a pound and THEN you'd see some real fuckin' riots.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Ethanol-fueled on Wednesday January 20 2021, @12:49AM (3 children)
Boomers like them for gardening and cleaning because they're cheap, Jews like them for gardening and cleaning and Shabbos Goy duties because they're cheap and not White.
By the way, when you look at the Wikipedia entry for "Shabbos Goy," you will see famous cases of real-life Shabbos Goys including Colin Powell. Really explains why Colin Powell was so readily willing to lie us into a bullshit war over there. "Shabbos Goy" is also a good insult because it sounds funny. Now turn my fucking lights on and make me a toasted sandwich, ya schnitzelin' sheckelin' Shabbos Goy!
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday January 20 2021, @01:53AM (2 children)
What is it with you and Jews? Were you forcibly circumcised as a teenager or something?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @10:25PM
That's muslims you insensitive clod! We jews are all about the babydick.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @11:07AM
I was forcibly circumcised shortly after birth. I do not blame jews or muslims specifically, but I do despise their culture that propagates this cruel barbaric practice. Especially when done to girls.
No single drop of rain thinks it is responsible for the flood.
Laws have changed. Practices have changed. What used to be a tick box on the hospital paperwork "Circumcise?" is now only done later in life when the man understands what is happening to his body or perhaps illegally in homes or overseas in a brutal fashion.
It is possible to despise the culture but not the individuals. I suspect the OP either hates jews or likes attention. Hard to say really.
Maybe that should be a question for the census.
Circumcised? Y/N
If Y: Mutilated at birth, brow beaten into it as a teenager for a coming of age ceremony, personal choice, or for medical reasons?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @01:29AM (1 child)
So I'm thinking the best way to undermine the Republican powerhouses is to find and deport illegal immigrants.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday January 20 2021, @01:32AM
No, since they don't vote. That would be an excellent way to start food riots though.
The best way to undermine Republican powerhouses is to end gerrymandering and make Election Day a national holiday :)
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 20 2021, @02:19AM (9 children)
Even a stopped (analog) clock is right twice a day. You finally got something right! Slave labor it is. Put your work force and/or your voting constituency at a severe disadvantage, and like magic, you can dictate whatever you like.
So let's secure the borders, and only allow LEGAL immigration. It's the humane thing to do.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @02:23AM (8 children)
I say we kick out you traitors and bring in replacement human beings that aren't dreaming of murdering their neighbors.
Would love to say buh bye you traitorous scumbag.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 20 2021, @03:35AM (7 children)
Molon labe.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @04:13AM (1 child)
https://www.facebook.com/mor.on.labi.a/photos/ [facebook.com]
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 20 2021, @04:36AM
Facebook? Moron? Got ya.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday January 20 2021, @03:44PM (4 children)
He Lost, Get Over It (TM).
If you're smart, you'll shut your stupid fucking mouth and quit playing footsie with terrorist threats, *before* you get a contingent of feds so far down your throat they can see what you had for supper last Sunday.
You're not smart, of course, so you'll keep shooting your seditious flapping foodsucker off, cross a line you shouldn't, and end up in prison if you're lucky and in Hell with more holes in you than a block of aged Swiss cheese if you're not. Moron labe!
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 20 2021, @04:01PM (3 children)
Yes, she lost, now get over it. It's been four years now.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @06:31PM
This tantrum you're having as Trump is kicked out with no secret coup is pretty amusing. Even though you're being a childish dick ignoring reality all morning it is like watching a toddler that has been a little prick all morning cry and howl about not getting their juice. They are learning what consequences are and after enduring their bullshit there is so much schadenfreude watching them melt down when told no.
Wonder if it is a generational thing, guess we'll find out in about 20 years when the next generation of old farts arrive. Will they be as reality denying childish babies as you? Guess we'll see if there is a next iteration of the Fox News phenomena.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @10:21PM
wat
(Score: 3, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday January 21 2021, @01:23AM
Why is it all you have is projection? And projection that doesn't even work?
You seem to assume I work the same as you. I never liked Clinton, and had to hold my nose while pulling that lever. The only reason she got my vote is she wasn't Trump. Same for Biden; he's not the Great White Hope for me like Trump was for your kind; he's a tourniquet on a morally-wounded nation that will stanch the bleeding for just long enough for me to get my mother settled here and haul ass over the Canadian border before hypovolaemic shock sets in.
You can't comprehend me. You can't understand any human who isn't as tribal, revenge-obsessed, black-and-white-thinking as you are. That kind of solipsism taints your interactions with other people and makes you make poor decisions when interacting with them. I'd say pull your head out of your ass, but we both know that's never going to happen; you sold your soul and will pay the price here and hereafter.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @03:41AM (1 child)
Hmm, bugs would finally be an economical alternative to meat.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday January 21 2021, @01:26AM
Know what's even better and doesn't involve eating bugs? Rice'n'beans, in any of the zillion or so iterations the world's cultures have come up with. Pearl barley works well too and has much lower glycaemic index. There are sources of umami flavoring like miso or Bragg's amino acids that make rice and beans very satisfying and almost meaty itself.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @06:59AM
Uh-huh. They come here illegally, risking their lives to reach this country so that they can be slaves. No, it's because there are jobs and safety. Many central/south american cities make south side Chicago look like summer camp.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @03:48AM (4 children)
Gee! Maybe someone should take a census?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 20 2021, @04:08AM (3 children)
Reading comprehension, much? Trump wanted the Census to record the immigration status, and progressives blocked him. How do you get an accurate census, if people are blocking you from collecting data?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @06:30AM (2 children)
You accuse me of reading comprehension problems? Seriously? Let's review. First, you complained that NO ONE KNOWS how many are here in the country illegally. I countered that we might actually COUNT THEM using a census. Then you complained that "progressives" BLOCKED THEM from collecting the data. With me, so far? The missing piece is WHY people were leery about letting the Trump administration collect that data. Given that Trump's administration has literally separated children from their parents at the border and put them in cages, I think it is quite understandable why people might not want them collecting that data. So, then, how do we get that data? It seems to me that the crucial thing that needs to happen is that those who are here illegally TRUST the census takers with that kind of information; I can see how they might naturally be rather reluctant to answer a question about immigration status if they feel it would likely be used against therm. Without that trust I see little hope of getting an accurate head count. So, which is more important to you? Rounding up illegals, or getting an accurate head count? You have to choose just one.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 20 2021, @02:41PM (1 child)
OK, you comprehended, and you're thinking pretty straight. Thanks for clarifying. It looked like you were just talking in circles.
Census takers should be trusted. No census taker has any authority to do anything, other than head counts.
The real problems are, number one, the border is as porous as a sponge. There are few penalties for employers hiring illegal aliens. Fix those two problems, most illegals will find their way back home pretty quickly.
The questions should have remained on the census. The census should have given us some idea how many illegals there are, where they are, and what kind of work they are doing.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @06:35PM
Waaaah illegals, waaaaaaah illegals
cmdrklarg, it isn't that his brain in incapable of understanding your point, it is that his bigotry and hatred are too strong to stop pushing his agenda. Reality be damned, the illegals are coming the illegals are coming |o.O|
What a dunce.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Wednesday January 20 2021, @06:37AM
🏳️🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️🌈
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @01:44AM
> Biden has thousands of new illegal alien voters on the way up from S. America right now. I don't think he cares what the census says.
Well Trump has Angels flying in from Africa right now. From Africa right now. [youtube.com]
(Score: 1, Funny) by Ethanol-fueled on Wednesday January 20 2021, @12:59AM
If you actually live anywhere near the Southern border, you're gonna enjoy a lot of tent cities and gang beheadings literally in your front yard, and if you don't have a front yard they'll set up camp in your parking spots and accost you in your parking structures. They'll ignite regular brush fires cooking food and dope under the influence. They'll smash your car windows daily just for pennies in your ashtray and provide convenient excuses for our CCP-funded, Jew-owned politicians to keep us locked down for the COVID hoax.
Of course, you won't have to fear COVID since it is a hoax. But you will have to fear the Measles, Yellow Fever, Typhus, Legionnaires Disease, Mutant Airborne Herpes, HIV, Turbo-Amoebas, Equine Gonorrhea, and Smallpox they will bring in -- and you're gonna be on the hook for paying those medical bills.
It is nice to be validated by predictions that later come true -- but when I wrote The Brown Menace I had satire, not predictions, in mind.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @10:15PM (1 child)
"The president also issued two directives that advocacy groups said were part of efforts to suppress the participation of minorities and immigrants in the 2020 census."
...and those directives were...?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @03:57AM
Stop questioning the narrative you deplorable Nazi. Trump is Hitler therefore the directives were bad.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @10:25PM (13 children)
Split children from the parents. Now they can't even reunite them even if you wanted to because we don't know where the kids are sent.
Trump is not just a traitor to America, he's a traitor to humanity.
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @10:28PM (9 children)
So, we can't have the children stay with the parents who are illegal immigrants in jail, because that's inhumane.
We also can't separate the children from the parents who are illegal immigrants because that's inhumane.
Yea, kindly pick which evil you want to go with and stick to it. The flip flopping of your party makes it impossible to please any of you and it's literally impossible because you'll take issue with ANY decision that doesn't come from the Democratic party.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @10:37PM (1 child)
"So, we can't have the children stay with the parents who are illegal immigrants in jail, because that's inhumane."
Just exactly who said that?
Loads of Republicans also objected to the policy of splitting children from their parents.
AC-to-AC; YOU ARE A MORON. Not a Democratic moron, not a Republican moron, you are simply a moron, period,
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @10:55PM
They were saying the Democratic party proclaimed played both sides of the issue depending on whatever the Republicans moved forward with.
If they're a moron, you're down right retarded.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @10:58PM (2 children)
That's by design. It is a CRT tactic -- no matter what you do, it will be problemetized. You see, the problem isn't the policy issue at hand -- it is you personally. They hate you. Period. End of Story. They will only be satisfied when you are dead.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:05PM
Actually, that makes a lot of sense.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @12:05AM
Sounds like what Republicans have been doing for ages, and we've seen Democrats compromise repeatedly.
Yet more of the same Gaslight Obstruct Project
(Score: 4, Insightful) by https on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:35PM (2 children)
Babies were separated from their parents and no records were made - of where the children were taken to, or who they were separated from.
Hundreds, minimum. A bare minium of 545 clear and obvious cases.
So now there's at least 545 babies and small children - small children and not so small children, now - who will never be certain of what happened to their parents, most of them unable to even say their parents legal names. Also, at least a thousand parents who have no way to get their kidnapped children back. A real problem with you using the term "illegal immigrant" is that some of those coming to seek asylum are actually going to get it. Just... not with their kids.
No person is illegal. This came about partly because racist assholes like you are fine with labelling* undocumented migrants "illegal". Your intentions are clear, and your words are in bad faith.
And then there's you trying to dress up the problem with the Republican Party's genocidal policies as some kind of Democratic Party hypocrisy? You cannot die soon enough.
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* an entire history lesson is possible concerning labelling - the Nazis took this, and other methods, directly from the United States of America.
Offended and laughing about it.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:59PM
That's literally mental illness. You need help.
Oh, and, they're called "illegal" because they're in the US ILLEGALLY. Get it? No? See my first statement.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @02:10AM
If only there were some way for people to provide genetic information that could be matched to that of the separated children!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @10:27PM
Correct.
Correct.
I refuse to pick the evil!
Let them go free, and give them a path to citizenship!
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:11PM (2 children)
Yup, that one's number 508 [mcsweeneys.net] on the list.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @04:06AM
They were really scratching to come up with that list.
McCain was a piece of shit. Refusing to talk about him was probably the nice thing to do.
Ha Ha Ha. Telling the truth is a crime.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @06:47AM
It will be great when Biden revokes that partnership and imposes sanctions on Saudi Arabia.
I won't hold my breath though.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Captival on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:13PM (1 child)
I can't believe Trump wanted to know if people are breaking citizenship laws or not. Lawbreakers that vote Democrat must not be stopped or arrested. Agree with me or I'll call you Literally Hitler. Literally.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @01:49AM
Then stop hiring them. Kthxbye.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 19 2021, @11:41PM (7 children)
How does Saudi Arabia handle illegal aliens? Or China? Or Russia? Australia? South Africa? Peru? Seriously, how many countries are there, that permit anyone and everyone to traipse across the border? How many of them give those illegal aliens free welfare, free housing, free everything? And, finally, how many of them allow those illegal aliens to vote?
You're damned right that the government should know how many people in the country fit into each classification of "immigrant".
Additionally, we, voting citizens, should have access to those numbers, via the internet. I can easily check to see how many male and female American citizens there are. How many young, old, college grads, high school grads - just about any demographic I care to look at is available. Illegal aliens? Nope. There are no numbers that you can even pretend are reliable.
Damn the Ds and damn the Rs, both of whom prefer to keep those numbers hidden.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @12:14AM
CMV: Hysterical white boys shouldn't be allowed to vote
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @01:53AM (2 children)
> How does Saudi Arabia handle illegal aliens? Or China? Or Russia? Australia? South Africa? Peru? Seriously
OK well since your SERRIOUS... how many countries are No. 1? How many countries donate their best and brightest to the US labor force? Answer: all of the above and in fact, all of them period.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 20 2021, @02:01AM (1 child)
Awwww, poor widdle number three countries! Maybe they should offer to enrich their best and brightest lives, enough to keep them home?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @06:38PM
I'm not sure if I should be flattered that you are taking on my style of mockery. Guess I'm getting through that superman-level emotional armor of yours if you think my techniques are worth copying ;-)
(Score: 2) by shortscreen on Wednesday January 20 2021, @11:22AM
It's funny how people asking for legal concessions for immigrants never seem to mention laws that apply to legal citizens crossing the border or emigrating. If the free movement of people is a worthy goal then shouldn't the US enter into mutual agreements with other countries that allow people to move in both directions? Unilaterally granting a privlege to others for nothing in return seems like a poor bargain, regardless of which side one sees as the beneficiary.
Asking about immigration status on the census form would have been pointless though because it wouldn't have gotten an honest answer. It already was unnecessarily politicized and had too many questions that discouraged people from bothering with it, IMO.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 20 2021, @10:31PM
I don't give a shit what the answers are! The Mother of Exiles and the Nazarine both command you to take them in!
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2021, @12:29PM
Australia puts them back on a plane or boat if caught at a border. Otherwise, generally they are locked up in what amounts to low security prison. It can take years for applications to be processed. Usually this is due to the immigrants throwing away their documents on the way. Not kidding. There's a photo of passports floating in the water off of Christmas island.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/17/magazine/the-impossible-refugee-boat-lift-to-christmas-island.html [nytimes.com]
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