from the we'll-build-our-own-with-blackjack-and-... dept.
Russia Says It Will Quit the International Space Station After 2024
The new head of Russia's space agency announced on Tuesday that Russia will leave the International Space Station after its current commitment expires at the end of 2024.
"The decision to leave the station after 2024 has been made," said Yuri Borisov, who was appointed this month to run Roscosmos, a state-controlled corporation in charge of the country's space program.
The pronouncement came during a meeting between Mr. Borisov and President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia. Mr. Borisov told Mr. Putin that Russia would fulfill its commitments through 2024. "I think that by this time we will begin to form the Russian orbital station," he said.
Mr. Putin's response: "Good."
However:
Russian Space Station to Replace ISS Will Be Built No Earlier Than 2028:
"We propose to build it in two stages. If the decision on its construction is made before the end of the year, then the first stage will begin in 2028 with the launch of the Science Power Module by the Angara-A5M launch vehicle," Solovyov said in an interview with the Russian Space magazine.After that, the node and gateway modules will be launched on the same rocket. The first will be similar to the module that is already part of the International Space Station. The second will be used for spacewalks.
Earlier, it was reported that the launch of the first module could take place in 2027-2028.Earlier in the day, the new head of Roscosmos, Yuri Borisov, reported to President Vladimir Putin that Russia would fulfill all its international obligations and withdraw from the ISS project in 2024.
Commenting on the state of the national space industry, the Roscosmos chief said that the situation is "difficult."Ex-Roscosmos head Dmitry Rogozin said on July 15 that after four years the industry managed "to get out of the system crisis quagmire." The Russian space industry, among other things, has achieved complete accident-free operations over the past four years, carrying out 86 successful launches in a row, completing the construction of the Russian segment of the ISS, and receiving the financing of the multi-satellite orbital grouping Sphere.
Additionally, Rogozin pointed out that Roscosmos managed to successfully implement a range of tasks including creating new Soyuz-5 spacecrafts, developing the preliminary design of the Russian orbital station to replace the ISS, and launch tests of the newest Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missiles have begun, which are expected to start combat duty by the end of 2022.
(Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Wednesday July 27 2022, @08:51AM (2 children)
nomsg
(Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Wednesday July 27 2022, @10:22AM
Jumping without assistance, yes. Like any jumping athlete should be able to do - even if it takes some training before.
Onus on Western World to show it can make the jump on its own.
And yes, I realize that's space competition in the Cold War era all over again. Upscaled with China this time. Like it or not, it is what it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Wednesday July 27 2022, @12:47PM
This breakup has been in the works for a long time. They might have been coaxed into continued participation out to 2028 or 2030, but relations are too bad now.
Article from October 2018: [thedrive.com]
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 4, Insightful) by looorg on Wednesday July 27 2022, @09:56AM (5 children)
Wasn't everyone leaving anyway? To build their own ... with blackjack and hookers. The west is building their own, China is building their own, a bunch of private companies are building their own and the list just goes on. The later half of this decade is/should apparently be filled with space station construction according to the lists and wishes -- that may or may not actually happen instead they'll keep duct-taping ISS; isn't it already a bit of a Frankenstein station by now.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by PiMuNu on Wednesday July 27 2022, @10:24AM
> isn't it already a bit of a Frankenstein station by now.
If one wants to build a permanent space habitat then upgrading, decommissioning and repairing is a necessary part of the tech.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Thexalon on Wednesday July 27 2022, @10:43AM
From the beginning, it was designed to have mix-and-match parts, to maximize flexibility and make it a thing they could keep up for a really long time. Which, to be fair, they have: It's outlasted Mir and Skylab by quite a lot and is still going.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by fraxinus-tree on Wednesday July 27 2022, @11:32AM (1 child)
... No to the first (maybe rhetorical) question. Who is the "west" and what are they doing? China tried hard and will likely continue the way they usually do. Russia is in no position to participate in any meaningful way (out of money). They may try to sell whatever stuff and knowledge they have to China and/or try to maintain their presence at ISS with less noise than before. US and EU are OK-ish with ISS. And, who are "the bunch of private companies"?
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 27 2022, @11:36AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_stations [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by Username on Wednesday July 27 2022, @04:15PM
About time for a nice space hotel. Like 2001, but without the AI.
(Score: 5, Funny) by inertnet on Wednesday July 27 2022, @12:16PM (4 children)
I submit "Iron Sky".
(Score: 2) by looorg on Wednesday July 27 2022, @12:50PM (1 child)
Sweet. A funny nazi-reference. That is going to go down well with the general public. Might as well call it the Snowflake citadel. We all know it will be like Spacey McSpaceFace if there is a naming competition (the boat set the standard) or perhaps just use the same naming convention as sports stadiums -- It's the AT&T Meta Spacestation.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday July 27 2022, @03:35PM
No, because no. To all of that. Not that we get much say in it.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Wednesday July 27 2022, @03:32PM (1 child)
Names for the new space station:
[x] Sky High
[_] Ripped
[_] Stoned
[_] Vacuuming the Lawn
[_] Mopping the Stove
[_] Other (please specify in comments)
Space Cadets from the US Space Force should be required to do at least one rotation there.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 27 2022, @05:06PM
Piiiigggss innnnn Spppppaaaaaaaace
(Score: 2, Insightful) by bobmorning on Wednesday July 27 2022, @06:49PM (2 children)
If you think that the Ruskies are going to be in space sometime shortly after 2024 on their own, I've got a politician that's honest to work with you.
Just look at how they are faring in land and air warfare. Too corrupt, too backward, too much arrogance...they talk a mean game but it is all bluster.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 27 2022, @07:16PM (1 child)
Or so they want you to believe.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday July 28 2022, @11:45AM
The lull-us-into-a-false-sense-of-security thing only works, if you're able to break out of the mold you cast. Not much point to making us believe they're incompetent and increasingly impotent, if they can't be otherwise. Plus the Ukrainian invasion would have been the time for such surprises not some distant nebulous future.
(Score: 5, Informative) by looorg on Wednesday July 27 2022, @08:12PM
And apparently they already changed their mind ... they are staying until (at least) 2028 when their own station is complete ... with blackjack, hookers and borscht!
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/russia-nasa-sticking-with-space-station-until-least-2028-2022-07-27/ [reuters.com]