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posted by on Sunday March 05 2017, @07:24AM   Printer-friendly
from the who-stole-the-strawberries? dept.

President Trump has accused former President Obama of... something:

In a string of tweets posted early Saturday morning, President Trump let loose a barrage of accusations at his predecessor. He alleged that former President Obama had his "wires tapped" in Trump Tower before Election Day last year, accusing Obama of "McCarthyism" and being a "bad (or sick) guy."

Trump, who is under significant scrutiny for his administration's contacts with Russia before he took office, offered no evidence to support his claims Saturday morning. Neither the White House nor Obama's office has responded immediately to NPR's requests for comment.

[...] Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017

Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017

I'd bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to Election!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017

How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017

Also at WaPo, NYT, Reuters, Fox News, BBC, and Snopes, which hints that it may be related to this story.


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Sunday March 05 2017, @09:17AM (15 children)

    by c0lo (156) on Sunday March 05 2017, @09:17AM (#475209) Journal

    It is worth noting that without the details of the alleged wiretapping, the justifications for the wiretapping would remain obscured.

    It worth noting that is the burden of the party who made the allegation to produce the proof the alleged wiretapping actually took place.**
    If the allegation is false, the justifications for the wiretapping will be... umm... "obscured" by the very non-existence of the alleged fact. And will remain forever so, any attempt to "bring them to light" will be a simple exercise of delusion (or fiction literature)

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    ** or... am I out of today's-post-truth-world order for holding such heretic thoughts?

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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 05 2017, @10:12AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 05 2017, @10:12AM (#475219)

    The lack of evidence is damning proof there's a consipiricy between the FBI, the ex-President, the Justice Dept and the intelligence services. It's going to take a LOT draining to clean up this swamp. We can only hope and pray Trump will remain strong enough to save us. Amen.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday March 05 2017, @10:24AM (6 children)

      by c0lo (156) on Sunday March 05 2017, @10:24AM (#475220) Journal

      The lack of evidence is damning proof there's a consipiricy between the FBI, the ex-President, the Justice Dept and the intelligence services. It's going to take a LOT draining to clean up this swamp. We can only hope and pray Trump will remain strong enough to save us. Amen.

      Ah, you've got me cornered, I can't answer to that.
      This is why I'm scared shitless. [soylentnews.org]

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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
      • (Score: 3, Funny) by khallow on Sunday March 05 2017, @01:55PM (5 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 05 2017, @01:55PM (#475251) Journal

        This is why I'm scared shitless.

        Trump improves digestion! Is there anything he can't do?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 05 2017, @04:13PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 05 2017, @04:13PM (#475290)

          My digestion is just fine, thank you. I don't need or want any help.

        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 05 2017, @08:04PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 05 2017, @08:04PM (#475355)

          Is there anything he can't do?

          Yes. He doesn't seem to be able act coherent and rational.

        • (Score: 2) by Joe Desertrat on Sunday March 05 2017, @10:32PM (1 child)

          by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Sunday March 05 2017, @10:32PM (#475400)

          Trump improves digestion! Is there anything he can't do?

          Trump knows digestion! That's how he can improve it! You can say he is digestion...

          • (Score: 1) by Demena on Monday March 06 2017, @12:57AM

            by Demena (5637) on Monday March 06 2017, @12:57AM (#475438)

            Or the product of it.

        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday March 06 2017, @05:51PM

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday March 06 2017, @05:51PM (#475705) Journal

          Is there anything he can't do?

          Nominate a cabinet. [marketwatch.com]

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 05 2017, @01:53PM (3 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 05 2017, @01:53PM (#475250) Journal
    An obvious point here is that absence of evidence would be grounds for a politically humiliating libel suit by Obama. We don't have just a rhetorical obligation here. Presidents are still subject to the law and there would be considerable resources to throw at such a lawsuit.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 05 2017, @07:17PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 05 2017, @07:17PM (#475344)

      An obvious point here is that absence of evidence would be grounds for a politically humiliating libel suit by Obama.

      He must be waiting for Trump to deliver on his promise to open up those federal libel laws.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday March 06 2017, @12:26AM (1 child)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 06 2017, @12:26AM (#475430) Journal

        He must be waiting for Trump to deliver on his promise to open up those federal libel laws.

        Sure, he is.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @10:05AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @10:05AM (#475552)

          You make a post like that and nobody can tell WTF you mean.
          Are you joking around because you know that Trump made that idiotic promise?
          Or are you denying that Trump made that promise?

          Frankly I think its the later because you are so damn ignorant of what trump has done and said and so confident in your ignorance.
          But maybe I'm wrong, maybe you are a funny guy.

          http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/02/donald-trump-libel-laws-219866 [politico.com]

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Whoever on Sunday March 05 2017, @04:48PM (2 children)

    by Whoever (4524) on Sunday March 05 2017, @04:48PM (#475305) Journal

    It worth noting that is the burden of the party who made the allegation to produce the proof the alleged wiretapping actually took place.**

    It's worth noting that the government lawyers have made this argument many times, while withholding the proof, in order to deny people their constitutional rights.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 05 2017, @05:41PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 05 2017, @05:41PM (#475316)

      Its also worth pointing out that Trump is the government.

    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday March 06 2017, @05:56PM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday March 06 2017, @05:56PM (#475707) Journal

      It's worth noting that the government lawyers have made this argument many times, while withholding the proof, in order to deny people their constitutional rights.

      Man, of only the President of the United States had some sort of authority over the Executive Branch he might be able to see that proof. Too bad, huh?