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posted by on Sunday March 05 2017, @07:24AM   Printer-friendly
from the who-stole-the-strawberries? dept.

President Trump has accused former President Obama of... something:

In a string of tweets posted early Saturday morning, President Trump let loose a barrage of accusations at his predecessor. He alleged that former President Obama had his "wires tapped" in Trump Tower before Election Day last year, accusing Obama of "McCarthyism" and being a "bad (or sick) guy."

Trump, who is under significant scrutiny for his administration's contacts with Russia before he took office, offered no evidence to support his claims Saturday morning. Neither the White House nor Obama's office has responded immediately to NPR's requests for comment.

[...] Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017

Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017

I'd bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to Election!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017

How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017

Also at WaPo, NYT, Reuters, Fox News, BBC, and Snopes, which hints that it may be related to this story.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 05 2017, @06:38PM (13 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 05 2017, @06:38PM (#475332)

    Haha, I love that one. If you don't see things the way I see them, you're mentally ill. I've learned from experience that such sentiments are usually precursors to violence. ymmv

  • (Score: 1) by Demena on Monday March 06 2017, @12:06AM (11 children)

    by Demena (5637) on Monday March 06 2017, @12:06AM (#475426)

    This from one who remains anonymous while all others are named. You either a troll or a fool but not fool enough to attach you own handle. if you do not have one try "worthless".

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @12:34AM (10 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @12:34AM (#475432)

      "Demena"? Short for "dementia"? Well now that we all know who you are and what your background is, (not a native English speaker, I am guessing, hmm, immigrant, or just foreigner? Russkie?) we will all give your comment the weight it deserves. (My Good, is there a Full Moon in the offing? But that would be more "Lunacy" than "Demena".)

      Yours, AC (We are Legion!)

      • (Score: 1) by Demena on Monday March 06 2017, @12:42AM (4 children)

        by Demena (5637) on Monday March 06 2017, @12:42AM (#475435)

        There used to be a rule on the green pages that you could be banned for mocking someone's handle or name. It was a good rule.

        You post as anonymous coward and that long with the ad hominem attacks show your nature and worth.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @03:40AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @03:40AM (#475476)

          There used to be a rule on the green pages that you could be banned for mocking someone's handle or name.

          And so when I defend the good name of Anonymous Coward, you get your panties all up in a bunch?
           

          It was a good rule.

          What are these green pages of which you speak? Are they similar to the yellow pages? Or some kind of stamps? Of all the things you have lost, do you miss your mind the most?

          You post as anonymous coward and that long with the ad hominem attacks show your nature and worth.

          How long is your ad hominem? I really do not have the time nor the patience to point out to you the total ignorance of your original response, but I can tell you that it is not an ad hominem to point out that you are being a dick. It is just pointing out that you are being a dick. Stop that, or we may have to send you back to Bedlam.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @10:24AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @10:24AM (#475557)

          There used to be a rule on the green pages that you could be banned for mocking someone's handle or name. It was a good rule.

          What "green pages" are you referring to?
          Because, as someone with a 4-digit uid on slashdot, I call bullshit on that lie.

          Too bad there wasn't a rule about banning whiny little bitches though.

          • (Score: 1) by Demena on Monday March 06 2017, @10:27AM (1 child)

            by Demena (5637) on Monday March 06 2017, @10:27AM (#475559)

            An Anonymous coward does not get to call bullshit on anything.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @10:30AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @10:30AM (#475560)

              BULLSHIT! {-called it!

      • (Score: 1) by Demena on Monday March 06 2017, @01:02AM (4 children)

        by Demena (5637) on Monday March 06 2017, @01:02AM (#475443)

        Oh, and FWIW, I am a native English speaker and if you are American then you are not.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @03:44AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @03:44AM (#475477)

          Oh, and FWIW, I am a native English speaker and if you are American then you are not.

          I will have to take your word for this, however strangely put together your English words may be. Brit, eh? But then wot? Northern, Midlands, Anglo-Saxon? Pict, Gael, or Briton? By the way, for what it is worth on the other end, I am no American. So what was your insightful point you were trying to make before you got all caught up in the hurt feefees?

          • (Score: 1) by Demena on Monday March 06 2017, @04:48AM (2 children)

            by Demena (5637) on Monday March 06 2017, @04:48AM (#475488)

            I'm not hurt. I am amused that you think trying to hurt someone is a valid argument.

            The insightful point is that I _am_ a native English speaker and you were as wrong about that as you are about everything else.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @06:35AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 06 2017, @06:35AM (#475516)

              Fucking demented Auzzie! Get the fuck out! You and your goddamned Dingo! You descendent of criminals! You scum and filth of the British Empire! You have the gall to accuse Americans of not speaking English? And you claim you are not hurt! All of us ACs, the Five Thousand Plus of us here on SoylentNews, feel your pain. We can smell the fear within you! You want to be a Trump supporter, but you cannot, since your Magesties Government prohibits it! So sad. Valid argument? If all you can bring to the table is your ignorant misinterpretation of American politics, I suggest you go on Walkabout. I am not trying to hurt you, you are hurting yourself with your own unacknowledged ignorance. This is what Walkabout is for. Never been, have you?

              Insultingly yours,

              AC

              P.S. Try harder later. Bandicoots await you where the green ants dream.

              • (Score: 1) by Demena on Monday March 06 2017, @10:33AM

                by Demena (5637) on Monday March 06 2017, @10:33AM (#475563)

                I should stop this but you are too entertaining. Do you even remember what it was all about? With an AC here and an AC there (everywhere an AC) only Trump could follow it all... Most Australian indulge in walkabout although it is more often Flyabout nowadays. Why is why many Australians are a little more aware of world issues and politics than many Americans. Travel broadens the mind at the expense of your backside. Try it sometime.

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday March 06 2017, @02:11PM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 06 2017, @02:11PM (#475612) Journal

    Haha, I love that one. If you don't see things the way I see them, you're mentally ill. I've learned from experience that such sentiments are usually precursors to violence. ymmv

    I'll note two things here. First, I disagree on that assertion. Sure, there are some viewpoints such as "Trump is very evil and very stupid" or getting too involved Marxism that I do see as mentally ill. But even then, I believe the remedy is simple. Think about the beliefs in question rather than merely accept them. A more rational person might still have some shade of these beliefs because that's in their self-interest to have, but at least, they wouldn't be making silly arguments on the internet (such as comparing Trump to Hitler before Trump has ever had a chance to do anything Hitler-like).

    In fact, this has already happened to some degree. Aside from one poster and myself just now, no one has made the inevitable comparison to Hitler. I think that is a positive direction.

    At some point, opponents of Trump will want support for their viewpoints, particularly if they're in the US. (Re)learning how to convince people would be helpful to that. For example, not everyone will think that Trump is the worst thing ever. Thus, one would need to start from that viewpoint and present arguments that are convincing rather than assume everyone (or at least everyone worth convincing) will equally despise Trump.

    What is routinely forgotten here is that Trump was elected not because a near majority believe in him (much less believe him), but because he wasn't Clinton or perceived as establishment. He goes into this term with some of the weakest support a US president has ever received and still gotten elected. If he really is going off the rails as claimed, it should be easy to overturn his influence in 2018 and 2020. For the US Democrats here, a key part of the strategy would be not nominating a terrible candidate.