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Drupal founder Dries Buytaert expelled Larry "Crell" Garfield from the Drupal community (archive) for his involvement in the BDSM community. Garfield claims this was done at the demand of Drupal Security team member Klaus "klausi" Purer and unknown others secretly pressuring Drupal leadership to have him removed for his private sex life.
takyon: From Larry's response:
I am involved in two such communities, specifically the BDSM community and the Gorean (Gor) community. The former is by far the larger of the two and more varied, although I spend more of my time and activity in the Gorean community. It's a small community, and sadly much of what is found online about it is utter crap, just as most in the BDSM community find the "50 Shades" representation of BDSM to be harmfully misleading. The Gorean subculture is inspired by a science-fiction book series written from the 1960s onward to today, and predicated on a strong sense of personal honor, integrity, and community. It also practices consensual Master/slave relationships, and has a strong gender bias toward male-Dom/female-sub relationships, but that is not the cornerstone of Gorean culture. There are other groups that are biased the other way, or have no gender bias. There are even groups in Chicago (where I live) that have regular "fem-dom" parties. To each their own.
It's the same Gor that was adapted into two films, one of which appeared on an episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:10AM (21 children)
Compared to you she's a fucking Rhodes Scholar, Uzzard. You specifically chose to reply to this to use the wrong pronoun just to be a cock, too. Aren't there some cheap beers waiting to be swilled and some firearms to be irresponsibly discharged after the swilling of same? Piss off.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday March 28 2017, @10:24AM (20 children)
No, sweety, your gender is not something you can change. You can play dress-up all you like, because Merica, but that's all it is. I shall not play the pronoun game for anyone's amusement.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:30PM (1 child)
The Mighty Scuzzard fails biology, news at 11.
I shall not play the pronoun game for anyone's amusement
Well we can all see that you play it for your own amusement so fuck off you hypocritical turd monkey.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday March 28 2017, @05:33PM
I give you 3 out of 10 for that one. It would have been 1 out of 10 for utterly failing to make an argument supported by anything ever but I liked the phrase "turd monkey".
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:34PM (17 children)
No, sweetie, your chromosomal sex and to a lesser extent your phenotype are things you can't change. Gender identity is a different thing. It's an epiphenomenon; it supervenes on your genes, your hormonal environment in utero, possibly epigenetic and environmental factors, and the society around you. In some societies I'd be considered "third gender" or "two-spirited" or whatever rather than "cis-female" because of the cultural lens I'd be viewed through seeing me as, essentially, "woman with many of a man's desires."
Statistically speaking, gender identity corresponds to karyotype corresponds to gross morphology, i.e., someone with a 46,XX genotype will usually look noticeably female and conform to a large degree to society's idea of what it is to be a woman. But as in any distribution, there are outliers.
Trans people have some sort of birth defect, something that manifests as gender nonconformity in the presence of all the factors listed above. Based on my experiences with them, they don't seem to be making it up, or insane; I've got a friend from an old job, Aaron, who was born Paige. He describes going through a woman's puberty as an absolute nightmare, like being the centerpoint of an especially gory, psychologically-scarring horror movie. I have to take his word for it, as it's outside my experience, but he's much happier and calmer on T after hysterectomy. Nice beard coming in too.
So just because you don't or won't understand something doesn't mean it's not real. It just means you're an asshole, and deliberately so since anyone with a triple-digit IQ could understand the above explanation.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday March 28 2017, @05:30PM (16 children)
I know you really, really want to define it that way so it fits your narrative but I reject your attempts to do so. Gender is a synonym for sex and has been since the word was created. Take your SJW word redefining bullshit and peddle it to someone who'll buy it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday March 28 2017, @06:25PM (11 children)
This isn't a new concept to me, jackoff. Do you think the idea of two-spirit or Hijra was invented in the 21st century or something? Stuff like this is older than Jesus. God, you're too dumb to even know you're dumb. Stage 4 Dunningkrugeritis is a hell of a disease...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday March 29 2017, @09:26AM (10 children)
And yet, you still do not get to redefine words to suit yourself.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday March 30 2017, @01:26AM (9 children)
Those aren't my words or my concepts. Would it kill you for once in your miserable, selfish, wasted little life to do a little research of your own? You're fucking wrong; admit it, learn from your mistakes, and stop being wrong.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 30 2017, @02:36AM (8 children)
You do not get to redefine words to suit yourself.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday March 30 2017, @03:50PM (7 children)
Are you aphasic or just deliberately refusing to read for comprehension?
These. Are. Not. My. Words.
The idea of gender-variant individuals goes back to fucking Sumeria, Uzzard. The ancient, *really* ancient, Near East. And these are just the written examples we have; it's almost a certainty that actual gender-nonconformers have existed throughout all of humanity's biological history. Here's just one of *many* examples: http://www.ancient.eu/article/941/ [ancient.eu]
Read my first post closer: gender identity supervenes on a number of properties both closer to the "bare metal" (like the hormonal environment you experienced in utero) and further away, such as society's expectations for what "person with wide hips and breasts" or "person with a penis" should act like. It's not purely internal and it's not traceable to one single physical characteristic.
Greedy reductionism is an unreliable heuristic for nondeterministic systems. You should know this. Either update your firmware or stop talking about things you aren't competent to.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Redundant) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 30 2017, @04:08PM (6 children)
You made the assertion. I refuted it with a dictionary. Live with it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday March 30 2017, @04:49PM (5 children)
Because we never ever update our knowledge, right? That's why your dictionary was written in oracle bone script on a turtle shell with a lump of charcoal, of course. ...dumbass.
These are not "my" assertions. 5,000 years of history (and around 150 of actual medical and psychological research) are looming over you from a great height, telling you you are wrong. And here you are, sitting there with your fingers in your ears running in circles chanting "lalalala i can't hear you fake news narrative hurr hurr."
Give it up already. You were wrong to begin with; you're also showing yourself to be perverse and willfully ignorant, elevating your own fear responses to the status of God.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 30 2017, @05:54PM (4 children)
We never, ever let SJWs redefine words to suit themselves. No. Use it that way all you like but I'll call you on it every time you try that bullshit on me.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday March 30 2017, @06:02PM (3 children)
You, er, haven't been reading a single fucking thing I've written, have you? Make like an Abit mobo and quit posting; you're done here.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday March 30 2017, @06:14PM (2 children)
Just like a SJW. Get spanked and declare victory. Sad, really.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday March 30 2017, @06:23PM
You're delusional, and everyone reading this thread can see it. Literally your entire post history for this subthread is "nuh uh" and "fuck you SJW" and "Hurr hurr this here dictionary sez..."
Whereas I've pointed you to primary sources (yes, the blog post cites an academic paper) that show you are not only wrong, but have been wrong since before Judaism existed.
And your response to this? Ironically, and darkly hilariously, it is *precisely what you just accused me of in your last post.*
I'm actually interested, in the way one is interested in venomous animals or lethal diseases, in what could possibly make you so wrongheaded. Oh, I know you can't be saved, and that's fine, but out of curiosity I'd like to figure out what makes you tick.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by melikamp on Thursday March 30 2017, @09:07PM
Hahahahahaha, OMG, what fun this thread is.
Hey, Mr. Dictionary, what the hell is "SJW", anyway? You are obviously using it as a pejorative. Which part of it do you actually find deplorable? Is being "social" deplorable? Is "justice? Is "warrior"? Are you saying people are awful because they fight for justice? Because they fight for issues which affect the entire society? Or because they dare to think about justice in the context of the entire society? What about a Donny-boy supporter who is actively fighting on the side of ICE against illegal immigrants? What about unlicensed mercs with attack dogs who drew blood in Dakota? Are they fighting for what they see as "social justice" (the pipeline was declared legal, while immigrant workers in question are not), or are they bigoted terrorists fighting for their own personal well-being at the expense of minorities? Since you don't call them SJWs, you must mean the latter, right?
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Wednesday March 29 2017, @04:23AM (3 children)
your SJW word redefining bullshit
Funny, do you mean something like redefining Social Justice as a bad thing? That kind of redefining bullshit? (Though, to be fair, I fail to see the relevance of male Tauroid excrement to the issue at hand. Redefinition run amook? )
(Score: 3, Informative) by Justin Case on Wednesday March 29 2017, @12:49PM (2 children)
redefining Social Justice as a bad thing
Not sure which side you're taking here but "social justice" is a bad thing; no redefinition needed.
Oh sure it is a lovely fantasy, but as implemented in the real world it requires Actual Injustice. Government can't give to one except by taking from another. "Social justice" activists (deliberately avoiding the SJW label here) ignore the taking half of the equation so they can praise themselves for their good aspirations and shrug off responsibility for the harm.
(Score: 2) by melikamp on Thursday March 30 2017, @09:27PM (1 child)
Oh that's bad now? You don't like that? You like it when individuals are free to abuse and dominate society (see any despot, starting with Adolf and Iosif), while the society is free to abuse and dominate individuals (see any despotic regime, starting with those of Adolf and Iosif). That's a valid point of view, and a fairly popular one too, but I hope you realize it puts your political philosophy right next to that of National Socialists.
(Score: 2) by Justin Case on Thursday March 30 2017, @11:07PM
There is no "society"; that is a groupthink imaginary term.
There are only individuals.
The lofty goals of "social justice" are (never really) achieved by taking from one individual to give to another. Taking what belongs to one, by force, is unjust. The "social justice" people conveniently sweep their violent unjust foundation under the rug hoping nobody will notice.
abuse and dominate individuals
Yep, that's what "social justice" advocates do to their victims. Don't know where you got that I was in favor of that domination however.