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posted by martyb on Thursday April 13 2017, @01:03AM   Printer-friendly
from the it-is-not-the-law...-yet dept.

Alabama lawmakers have voted 24-4 to allow Briarwood Presbyterian Church in Birmingham to establish a police department. The church has over 4,000 members and is also home to a K-12 school and a theological seminary with 2,000 students and teachers:

"After the shooting at Sandy Hook and in the wake of similar assaults at churches and schools, Briarwood recognized the need to provide qualified first responders to coordinate with local law enforcement," church administrator Matt Moore said in a statement, referring to the mass murder of 20 first graders and six teachers at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut by a deranged man with an AR-15 style rifle just before Christmas 2012. "The sole purpose of this proposed legislation is to provide a safe environment for the church, its members, students and guests." The church would pay the bill for its officers.

[...] "It's our view this would plainly be unconstitutional," Randall Marshall, the ACLU's Acting Executive Director, told NBC News. In a memo to the legislature, Marshall said they believe the bills "violate the First Amendment or the U.S. Constitution and, if enacted, would not survive a legal challenge." "Vesting state police powers in a church police force violated the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment," his memo states. "These bills unnecessarily carve out special programs for religious organizations and inextricably intertwine state authority and power with church operations."

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 20 2017, @02:13PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 20 2017, @02:13PM (#496860)

    You don't see the point yet, I reject as flawed any logical assertion in the domain of a hypothetical transcendent god. Logic system is not defined, concepts are not defined. There are two categories of believers. The first one "God told somebody that..." are perfectly logical. The second one "god exists/does not exist because..." are perfectly illogical. Any pastafarian is more correct than any atheist that doesn't simply choose to not believe.

    You want to know my faith? Christian-but-all-went-downhill-after-313-AD. Given that belief implies not knowing, and given that a god that does not behave as promised is not my god, I think most problems are not inherent in the act of belief as you seem to imply.