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Turkey's president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, has furiously condemned the US decision to issue arrest warrants to 12 members of his security detail because of their involvement in a bloody brawl with peaceful protesters in Washington DC last month.
In a dramatic escalation of tensions between two Nato allies, Erdoğan said on Thursday that his government would "fight politically and judicially" against the warrants that had been issued earlier in the day.
[...] The ministry said in a statement that the ambassador was told the decision to issue arrest warrants was "wrong, biased and lacks legal basis".
"That the brawl in front of the Turkish Ambassador's Residence was caused by the failure of local security authorities to take necessary measures; that this incident would not have occurred if the US authorities had taken the usual measures they take in similar high level visits and therefore that Turkish citizens cannot be held responsible for the incident that took place," the statement said.
Erdoğan echoed these statements in televised remarks on Thursday night. "Why would I take my guards to the United States if not to protect myself?" he said.
[...] US senator John McCain called for Turkey's ambassador to the US to be removed from the country because of the fight and to charge those involved with the incident.
"After all, they violated American laws in the United States of America, so you cannot have that happen in the United States of America," McCain told MSNBC last month. "People have the right in our country to peacefully demonstrate and they were peacefully demonstrating."
The House committee on foreign affairs echoed the senators' call in a letter to secretary of state, Rex Tillerson. "Alarmingly, this behavior is indicative of the broad crackdowns on political activists, journalists and religious freedom in Turkey that have greatly harmed Turkish democracy in recent years," the letter said.
Source: The Guardian
In 2011 an incident happened at the UN, Ban-Ki Moon apologized to Turkey for a "misunderstanding" which left UN security officers injured.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @06:35PM (14 children)
And your opinions of Trump are less significant than dust in the wind.
I'm a liberal, but Clinton was an unacceptable choice, so I voted for Trump, and I am very glad I did. It's been immensely enjoyable to see all you clueless SJW skinny-jeans-wearing fixed gear bicycle riding latte-sipping twerps whine about Trump like it was the end of civilization.So thanks for the laughs, kids !
(Score: 3, Interesting) by aristarchus on Sunday June 18 2017, @07:29PM (7 children)
You claim to be a liberal? One who voted for Trump? This sounds more like something a Russian deep-cover operative might say . . .
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:36PM (3 children)
"You claim to be a liberal? One who voted for Trump? This sounds more like something a Russian deep-cover operative might say . . ."
You're paranoid, to a comical degree. I am the OP and I was born and raised in the US and I have NO affiliation with a foreign power, Russia or otherwise.
I don't think Trump is a great guy, I think he is a shithead in many ways, but for me, Trump was the lesser of two evils compared to Clinton. You don't have to agree, and that's ok.
(Score: 2, Funny) by aristarchus on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:51PM (2 children)
You know, I am the OA (original aristarchus), and this sounds just what a Russian operative would say if they were called out for being a Russian operative!
(Score: 2) by unauthorized on Monday June 19 2017, @10:12AM (1 child)
Or a reasonable person who dislikes conspiracy nutjobs.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @03:53PM
To be fair, this thread passed 'reasonable' a long time ago.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by TheRaven on Monday June 19 2017, @10:08AM (1 child)
sudo mod me up
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @04:06PM
I get the boiled frog theory. To a large degree, I even agree with it. We are stuck with a boil-the-frog, steal as much and as quick as possible administration now, so I hope that metaphorically lighting everything on fire will allow us to build something better on the ruins. It's the only glimmer of optimism I have. But the problem with the boil quickly plan is that it is also dangerous. Worst case, having a massive irrational narcissist as head of the largest military on our planet could boil the frog quickly by dooming millions to billions of people to pain, suffering and death. It seems like a really big gamble to risk the worst case in hopes people will come to there senses beforehand.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @03:41PM
I'm French and I hate hipsters like most of the world out there.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Lagg on Sunday June 18 2017, @07:43PM (5 children)
What the fuck is it with you people? It's so unlike anything else I've seen in US politics here that people fanatically defend a president - when I remember one thing uniting us was equal disdain - and say shit that looks like emboldened speech from a 9 year old girl that was copy and pasted or adapted from somewhere else.
The people you see post stuff like that aren't being taken seriously by anyone - just FYI. They're specifically meant to be caricatures specifically to upset the SJWs and the like in order to make actual thinkers look like unapproachable idiots. You aren't giving the libtards the ol' one-up by saying "He's your president, deal with it". You're parroting speech from people that don't understand how democracy works.
Also, if people who like Trump seriously do so because he makes the most easily offended people in the world - SJWs - offended: That is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen next to the idea of SJWs in itself.
http://lagg.me [lagg.me] 🗿
(Score: 0, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:27PM (2 children)
"You're parroting speech from people that don't understand how democracy works."
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The US isn't a democracy.
(Score: 2) by Lagg on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:46PM (1 child)
I would normally pass this as sarcasm trying to express the point but I'm not sure anymore. Because this is actually something people like to say as if to go "well america sucks at democracy so it doesn't deserve to be a republic".
Speaking of that though, I saw shit like that (this project isn't a democracy) from people that couldn't come up with a justification to be pricks in open source. Recall seeing the same kind of arguments being used for libreboot and other drama. Because one thing both the "liberals" and "conservatives" like to do is hijack the principles of democracy in one direction or the other if it suits their argument.
America's status as a shit democracy was kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy of people not wanting it to be one mixed with people that thought it couldn't be a republic, I feel. Other people will repeat the spirit of that statement thinking that the opinion or well-to-doness of their representative is anywhere on the same stratosphere as their own.
http://lagg.me [lagg.me] 🗿
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @04:38PM
I wouldn't take it as sarcasm. The US preaches "Democracy" pretty hard, especially to ourselves. It's almost as if we are trying to convince ourselves of something we really don't believe.
On the other hand, plutocracy may be an appropriate term for the US. See "Free Speech Zones" or
Testing Theories of American Politics [princeton.edu]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:40PM (1 child)
"Also, if people who like Trump seriously do so because he makes the most easily offended people in the world - SJWs - offended: That is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen "
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You score a FAIL in reading comprehension. I specifically explained that voted for Trump BECAUSE I liked Trump better than Clinton.
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If Sanders had been the candidate I'd have voted for Sanders. The Democratic party fucked itself when it made sure Bernie was not the candidate. You anti-Trump people should rightly be very pissed off at your own Democratic party for that.
(Score: 2) by Lagg on Sunday June 18 2017, @08:58PM
You fail at elective responsibility and you're gonna fail hardcore at history in about 10 years. Also your bizarre ellipsis style made me realize you're the one that thinks the US isn't a democracy which plays into the hands of the federal government quite well. So you fail at the personal responsibility we all have to watch that tree of liberty and protect it, too. The republicans I grew up around that are all "but muh guns" right now have that level of love for their country at least.
All you're telling me is that there is such a thing as dumb and complacent liberals too. You know assuming this isn't just a big ol' trollbasket left on my porch that you pooped in. Granted, I know that people who call themselves liberals can be no less mean and judgemental than the next person. Which is why you'll often see me passionately reject the label.
Now back to my LGBT parade, gun control march, SF jazz event and transgender orgy. Because boy oh boy if there's one thing about me it's that I'm all about the democratic party doncha know [soylentnews.org].
http://lagg.me [lagg.me] 🗿