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posted by n1 on Monday June 19 2017, @04:44AM   Printer-friendly
from the up-in-arms dept.

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Australia has announced national gun amnesty, allowing people to hand in illegal or unregistered firearms to authorities. The move is aimed at curbing growing numbers of illegal weapons and comes amid an increased terrorist threat.

[...] The program starts on July 1 and within three months – until September 30 – anyone who possesses an unwanted or unregistered firearm, or a firearm-related item such as ammunition, can legally dispose of or register their firearm at "approved drop-off points in each State and Territory", without fear of being prosecuted, Justice Minister said.

Outside the amnesty period, however, those who are caught with illegal guns could face a fine of up to AU$280,000 (US$212,000), up to 14 years in prison and a criminal record.

“My expectation is it will probably not be the case that we will have hardened criminals who have made a big effort to get a hold on illegal guns would necessarily hand them in. The purpose is to reduce the number of unregistered and illicit firearms in the community,” Keenan said, as cited by AAP.

[...] Earlier this month, the authorities announced plans to build its first prison solely for militants with extreme views to prevent the radicalization of other inmates.

Source: RT


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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday June 19 2017, @06:29AM (14 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 19 2017, @06:29AM (#527772) Journal

    Just from curiosity: what arms would you think Ozzies should have access to but they are not legally allowed to?

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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by MostCynical on Monday June 19 2017, @08:18AM (1 child)

    by MostCynical (2589) on Monday June 19 2017, @08:18AM (#527808) Journal

    Bazookas. Always wanted one for outside-lane hogs, for when the horn and high beam doesn't work...

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    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday June 19 2017, @01:53PM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 19 2017, @01:53PM (#527903) Journal

      No need. Just carry a tree with a nest of drop bears with you and plant it above those hogs when you see them. The nature will run its course and you don't need a license to carry that tree.

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  • (Score: 2) by Kell on Monday June 19 2017, @08:40AM

    by Kell (292) on Monday June 19 2017, @08:40AM (#527817)

    I, for one, would like to get a Bondarms Bullpup to carry in my pocket, but they are illegal for being too short.

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @10:28AM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @10:28AM (#527841)

    First, there's the obvious question of self-defence against humans, and the right to carry arms for that purpose. The radical disagreement that the sort of Americans who find fault with Australia's gun laws tend to have on this should be so obvious that I'm not even going to address it further.

    Semiautomatic rifles in any centerfire cartridge, for one; not allowed for hunting or sport shooting.

    Handguns (of certain types, barrel lengths, etc.) are permitted, but restricted to sport shooting at designated clubs (or for employment, e.g. armed security); AIUI there's no way for a normal guy to carry one in the field, not even for hunting. Here in the rural USA, I can't be arsed to carry a rifle around every day, but I frequently carry a 22 magnum revolver with both ratshot and bullets for opportunistic pest control; AIUI this would not be permitted with any license in Australia. (Don't they have nasty snakes, to say nothing of rabbits?)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @11:51AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @11:51AM (#527857)

      Saltwater crocodiles too large for a .22 to have much effect :)

      But now you know why Crocodile Dundee only carried a Bowie knife: The gun control didn't give him an alternative :P

    • (Score: 2) by coolgopher on Monday June 19 2017, @01:01PM

      by coolgopher (1157) on Monday June 19 2017, @01:01PM (#527876)

      We try not to shoot the snakes, they keep the other pests under control. Don't step on them, don't ride the lawnmower over them, and you're typically good. If there's a need, there's the shotgun though. For rabbits, .22 is the go-to afaiu.

    • (Score: 2) by deimtee on Monday June 19 2017, @01:22PM (7 children)

      by deimtee (3272) on Monday June 19 2017, @01:22PM (#527885) Journal

      I pretty sure professional feral pig shooters carry a hefty sidearm as backup to their rifles. At least they used to back when I knew one. Those pigs are bloody dangerous, ever seen the documentory "Razorback"?
      As for shooting snakes, it doesn't matter how venomous the bastards are, they are protected under Australian law, so arguing you need to sheet them isn't going to get you anywhere.
      For rabbits and foxes you use a shotgun or a 22. Just about anyone who would be in position to shoot vermin can get a licence for those.

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      • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday June 19 2017, @04:57PM (2 children)

        by kaszz (4211) on Monday June 19 2017, @04:57PM (#528006) Journal

        Doubt anyone faced with a deadly snake at home would consider the law.

        • (Score: 2) by deimtee on Monday June 19 2017, @05:18PM

          by deimtee (3272) on Monday June 19 2017, @05:18PM (#528030) Journal

          Depends on the person. A few years ago, yeah dead snake and fuck the law. Now a majority would probably call the local council and get a snake catcher sent around.
          But that wasn't the point anyway. Arguing that you need a gun to shoot snakes isn't going to work because you're not allowed to shoot them.

          Also, how the hell did I manage to typo "sheet them"?. I need to sleep. :)

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        • (Score: 2) by gawdonblue on Monday June 19 2017, @09:11PM

          by gawdonblue (412) on Monday June 19 2017, @09:11PM (#528150)

          The only snakes you're going to able to shoot with a handgun are too slow to bother you. Death adders, red-bellies and the like. Leave them alone and everyone goes home happy. On the other hand, if an eastern brown decides he doesn't like you then you'll have a couple of puncture marks by the time you got your handgun out. At best you might get a couple of shots off, but you'll most likely miss the snake and really piss it off to make sure it envenoms the bite.

          In Australia: guns don't kill snakes, (stupid) people (try to) kill snakes.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @06:52PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 19 2017, @06:52PM (#528082)

        Thanks for the clarifications.

        Professional hog hunters, though -- as in, do it for a living, so same deal as an armed security guard, right? (Not seen that documentary, but my uncle shoots wild hogs in Louisiana, so I know a little about them.) But when I speak of handguns for hunting, I'm thinking more like going for a walk in the woods in deer season, with a magnum revolver on your hip, and if you happen to get close enough to a deer, you shoot it and fill the freezer. And if not, well, you've had a pleasant walk in the woods, unencumbered by a rifle, and you can try again later. AIUI, this sort of thing is completely off-limits in Australia.

        Yeah, I get that you guys can have a rimfire rifle/carbine or a shotgun quite easily enough, and those are the same tools I use if I'm going out specifically to shoot pests. It's just that a handgun really is so practical to always have with you, in case you see a bunny while walking to the coop or barn, or even while driving the tractor, etc.. (Although I've been thinking of putting a shotgun scabbard on the tractor -- which is as much about deciding on the right gun as the actual scabbard. Light & handy, mild enough for the ladies of the house to use -- torn between a 20ga side-by-side and a KSG with light loads. But I'm drifting off-topic.)

        About snakes -- I would assume there's an exception for self-defense in immediate danger, but fair enough; AIUI (I don't live in dangerous snake country) if you see a snake soon enough to shoot it, it's more than likely soon enough to back off anyway, so such an exception wouldn't much justify pistol packing.

        FWIW, I mainly shoot cottontails, both for the good of the orchard (nasty beasts will eat a ring of bark right around an apple tree, which kills it, when the snow gets deep) and so the neighborhood remains unattractive for coyotes. Coons, possums, feral cats, etc. are all shot on sight, but we get more cottontails than all predators combined. (Oh, not to forget such house sparrows as choose to live and die in the chicken coop.)

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 20 2017, @12:15AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 20 2017, @12:15AM (#528225)

          If gun restrictions is a problem for acquiring a pipe gun then there's always crossbows etc that has been used for 2600 years. The upside is they are silent, efficient can be manufactured without too much complication.

        • (Score: 2) by deimtee on Tuesday June 20 2017, @02:01PM

          by deimtee (3272) on Tuesday June 20 2017, @02:01PM (#528445) Journal

          Sorry, I was kidding about razorback being a documentary. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087981/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 [imdb.com]

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      • (Score: 1) by tftp on Tuesday June 20 2017, @04:44AM

        by tftp (806) on Tuesday June 20 2017, @04:44AM (#528335) Homepage

        For rabbits and foxes you use a shotgun or a 22.

        Most .22LR are inhumane to shoot foxes with. Spare a cheap V-Max .223 on it. Even a rabbit would prefer a .17HMR. A .22LR wound is often deadly, but it may take a whole day for the animal to die.