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posted by martyb on Friday August 11 2017, @02:10PM   Printer-friendly
from the hurry-up-and-stop dept.

Google is struggling to discuss the recent diversity memo controversy internally:

Google's CEO, Sundar Pichai, canceled a scheduled all-hands staff meeting—moments before it was scheduled to begin—meant to address concerns over a controversial essay published by former employee James Damore.

In an email to staff, Pichai explained that questions from employees had been leaked and that, in some cases, specific employees' identities were revealed, exposing them to harassment and threats. Instead of today's large-scale meeting, which was to be livestreamed to Google's 60,000 employees worldwide, smaller groups will meet sometime in the future.

"We had hoped to have a frank open discussion today as we always do to bring us together and move forward. But our Dory questions appeared externally this afternoon, and on some websites Googlers are now being named personally," Pichai said in the email.

Also at CNET.


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by kurenai.tsubasa on Friday August 11 2017, @02:50PM (22 children)

    by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Friday August 11 2017, @02:50PM (#552305) Journal

    In an email to staff, Pichai explained that questions from employees had been leaked and that, in some cases, specific employees' identities were revealed, exposing them to harassment and threats.

    Good grief, SJWs!

    I saw something about somebody screaming cultural appropriation because some little girl wanted to have a Japanese tea ceremony themed birthday party. The girl's outfit looked authentic to me. All the SJWs screeching and harassing and threatening! Then finally somebody from Japan spoke up and said STFU! Culture is meant to be shared!

    I think I remember something about sombreros in the UK being cultural appropriation. The SJWs screeched and harassed and threatened and shut shit down. Cultural appropriation! Well, finally, somebody in a position to represent Spanish culture spoke up and said WTF! We passed out those sombreros ourselves to share our culture!

    Holy fucking shit. Humans have been swapping and sharing culture for thousands of years. Humans have shared and swapped culture with Neanderthals (probably)! And even with lizard people from the Thuban system (ok, only in my little universe)! Culture is meant to be swapped! Did we not learn anything in preschool?! Share! Share! Share! Culture is information and information wants to be… anyway I digress.

    So SJWs can't even get that right, a basic fucking thing that all (well, hopefully all, probably most) intelligent, social beings in the cosmos do.

    Why am I not surprised that a bunch of cisgendered SJWs with a monkey's intuition about gender (and sure as hell no practical experience as anything other than their assigned caste), who only know that they have something to be outraged about, without understanding any reasons whatsoever that could be put forth to explain why somebody should be outraged about the thing they're outraged about, are being outraged about shit they don't understand and don't want to understand?!

    (Oh my, did I just use cisgendered as a pejorative? I think I did. Well, fuck SJWs.)

    So glad I started using DuckDuckGo a couple years ago.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @02:59PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @02:59PM (#552319)

    Some days I wear a baseball cap...but I don't play baseball.

    How long before this gets me in trouble (with someone)??

    • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Friday August 11 2017, @03:37PM (2 children)

      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Friday August 11 2017, @03:37PM (#552363) Homepage Journal

      Baseball caps are great. Imagine if there were no golf courses outside Scotland, and no sushi bars outside California. That would be sad.

      • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday August 11 2017, @04:02PM

        by Grishnakh (2831) on Friday August 11 2017, @04:02PM (#552385)

        Imagine if there were no golf courses outside Scotland, and no sushi bars outside California. That would be sad.

        I completely disagree. While sushi is great and it'd suck to not have sushi bars in many places, we can really do without golf. I'm not a Millennial, but I'm with the Millennials on this one: golf sucks, and I'm happily doing my part to kill golf by not playing it.

      • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday August 11 2017, @06:30PM

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday August 11 2017, @06:30PM (#552484) Homepage

        Official corporate baseball caps are boss as fuck when you're out on a field service mission in full company garb working outdoors. Yep, being paid to work outdoors, now that's what makes America fucking great!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @07:58PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @07:58PM (#552541)

      In Tejas, they would call you "All hat and no baseball." I think.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @03:03PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @03:03PM (#552325)

    Monkeys know gender perfectly well. It's some humans that seem to find it baffling. Speaking as an enlightened human person, on behalf of all monkeys in the world, I demand an apology.

    • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Friday August 11 2017, @03:34PM (1 child)

      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Friday August 11 2017, @03:34PM (#552359) Journal

      Ah, shoot. I realized I was being insensitive to the monkeys who are users here (I think we have at least 2 or so, likely more) after I posted that. Thank you for calling me on that. My apologies. I'm sorry! Won't happen again!

      I agree, among the primates, it seems to be only humans who have these abstract concepts such as heresy. Too bad we probably won't know when it comes to Neanderthals or other extinct primates. Unless we have a few around here!

      What about houseflies? No, bees! IANABeekeeper, but from what I understand, gender works quite differently among insects. So, it could be the case that a bee would have great difficulty comprehending mammalian gender.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @10:03PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @10:03PM (#552611)

        Both of you are not giving the smarter monkeys enough credit. Chimps know all about jealousy, anger, hate, and warfare. Humans aren't as special as they think.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @03:22PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @03:22PM (#552348)

    Cultures are meant to be swapped and shared, not sold and exploited.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @03:36PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @03:36PM (#552361)

      Found the SJW! What do I win?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @10:20PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @10:20PM (#552619)

        A textbook to the face.

    • (Score: 2) by Sulla on Friday August 11 2017, @04:39PM (3 children)

      by Sulla (5173) on Friday August 11 2017, @04:39PM (#552411) Journal

      Whats the difference? Am I only allowed to have a japanese tea ceremony if I build a kiln and craft my own teapot, grow my own tea and turn it into matcha, and sew my own yukata to use in the ceremony? I suppose the cultural sharing goes away if I buy all three things first?

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @10:26PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @10:26PM (#552621)

        If you truly don't understand the difference between cultural exchange and soul sucking profiteering then you're too far gone. Go back to your corporate overlords and swallow the propaganda good and deep.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 12 2017, @01:14AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 12 2017, @01:14AM (#552667)

          So Mexican guys can't sell me Mexican food?
          They should only give it away to keep it free from the taint of filthy lucre?
          Are they PROSTITUTING THEIR CULTURE?

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 12 2017, @02:09AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 12 2017, @02:09AM (#552696)

          Sounds like a fucking communist whining about not getting their grabby hands on "means of production" to me. "OH NO Someone else is making stuff, and selling for PROFIT!!! MUH COMMUNISM!" Go to Venezuela you fucking scum.

  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday August 11 2017, @03:59PM

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Friday August 11 2017, @03:59PM (#552382)

    Humans have shared and swapped culture with Neanderthals (probably)!

    According to DNA analysis, humans shared and swapped more than just culture with the Neanderthals....

  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @05:18PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @05:18PM (#552442)

    It's always about your offended, triggered, gender-confused crotch, isn't it?

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @05:27PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @05:27PM (#552446)

    Is it just me, or does "cultural appropriation" equate to plain racism. As in "You are not this color, so you can't do this!", "Christmas for Christians only, no Jews allowed!" or "only _real_ Americans are allowed to eat a hamburger!"

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Friday August 11 2017, @07:51PM (3 children)

      by Arik (4543) on Friday August 11 2017, @07:51PM (#552538) Journal
      "Is it just me, or does "cultural appropriation" equate to plain racism. As in "You are not this color, so you can't do this!", "Christmas for Christians only, no Jews allowed!" or "only _real_ Americans are allowed to eat a hamburger!""

      I think you've got the thrust of it, yeah.

      The 'social justice' movement is the left wing of a resurgent racism/communitarianism impulse, with the right wing of course being the WN/neocon/alt-right loons.

      For instance collectively they seem to genuinely favor e.g. segregation. The motivation and justifications may be very different but there's more than a bit of agreement in there too. Both see the group assignment as the most important thing about human beings, far more important than their individual differences, even if they could never agree on which groups 'really exist.' (Hint, none of them.)

      "Social justice" is a code, it's the basic jumping-off point for the wholesale reforming of language so that morality may be inverted without setting off the normal alarm-bells in the super-ego.

      Justice is individual. "Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers" nor "shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."

      "Social justice" is the reverse of justice. It doesn't start with an individual who has certain rights and the responsibility to respect the rights of others. It starts with a series of bins, labeled with 'identities.' Depending on the individual there may be many or few bins, the left wing tendency is to splinter them into as many as possible while the right wing impulse is to consolidate into a handful of larger streams, but in many cases they still overlap, with for instance both sides seemingly swallowing the essence of traditional american 'racial' mirages; with black and white in center stage overshadowing all else. When deciding who should be hired or fired, who should be admitted or denied entry, who should be allowed to rent and who should be turned away, in all these things and more both of these groups agree that *which bin* they have sorted you into ahead of time not only is but *should be* an important factor, quite possibly the most important factor, in the outcome.

      One might say that there's just no justice in 'social justice.'
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @10:29PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 11 2017, @10:29PM (#552623)

        It is enlightening to read the conservative perspective, no matter how wrong it is. Gotta be able to understand where these people are coming from if we are to have any chance of helping them.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday August 12 2017, @05:17PM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 12 2017, @05:17PM (#552904) Journal
          Well, don't hold back then. Give us your conservative perspective, no matter how wrong it is, so that we may be enlightened.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 12 2017, @01:24AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 12 2017, @01:24AM (#552673)

        Parent is so right.
        The racist non-white supremacists HATE race mixing because the sole source of their identity, their race, is diluted and becomes one with the hated "other."
        Segregation provides their lives with meaning. They are the other side of the coin opposite the white supremacists.

        Of course, if they give in to the forbidden temptation and mix with white people, they cannot bear to admit their kids are part white. They will call their kids "black", "of color", or what have you.