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A DC grand jury returned indictments against 15 Turkish security officials and four other individuals Tuesday on charges of attacking protesters during an incident outside the Turkish ambassador's residence on May 16, 2017. The violence took place during Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's visit to the US.
CNN previously reported that nine people were injured in the melee, though witness and Turkish authorities have offered conflicting accounts of who was involved and who was to blame. All defendants were also indicted with "bias crime enhancements" -- referring to hate crimes -- to the charges.
The Turkish embassy says the protesters were affiliated with the PKK (Kurdistan Workers Party), which is a designated terror group in Turkey, the US and Europe, and has been engaged in a 30-year conflict with the Turkish government. Turkey alleges the protesters "began aggressively provoking Turkish-American citizens who had peacefully assembled to greet the President." In June, DC Police Chief Peter Newsham said that "there's no indication at all that the protesters were a terrorist group."
Previously: Violence at Turkish Embassy in Washington
Erdogan Decries 'Unacceptable' US Arrest Warrants for Staff in Washington Brawl
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Wednesday August 30 2017, @09:30PM (16 children)
Trump will probably pardon them. He doesn't want to upset his good buddy Erdogan.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @09:39PM (14 children)
The present can only pardon criminal against the United States. Can't pardon crimes against persons.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @09:41PM (1 child)
Sorry, I accidentally a word. "criminal acts"
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @09:45PM
And present == president
I also a word for correct complete
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday August 30 2017, @10:52PM (11 children)
The present can only pardon criminal against the United States. Can't pardon crimes against persons.
That's not true. [pbs.org]
Other than impeachment, the president can pardon any violation of a federal law.
(Score: 3, Funny) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday August 30 2017, @11:06PM (7 children)
All agree the U. S. President has the COMPLETE power to pardon. Only crime so far is leaks against us. We were very honored by President Erdogan's visit. Turkey is a bastion in the fight against terrorism. 🇺🇸
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 31 2017, @12:17AM (5 children)
Turkey IS the terroristic, genocidal state. The current government won't even admit to the fact that it's predecessors committed genocide against multiple groups of people. Why not? Simple - it reserves the "right" to genocide the Kurds, if, when, and as it feels like. And, when the Kurds are history, Turkey will be looking for a new target.
The ONLY reason Turkey gets away with it's moronic crap, is because it is a NATO ally.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @07:31AM
Of course. If you look at history, Turkey is actually the northern part of the old Caliphate, with ISIS being the southern part.
With the power grab that Erdogan did recently, there can be no doubt that both parts want to bring back the Caliphate, the only thing that he and ISIS disagrees about is who gets to be Caliph.
(Score: 4, Funny) by JoeMerchant on Thursday August 31 2017, @01:02PM
Location, location, location.
Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://news.stanford.edu/2023/02/17/will-russia-ukraine-war-end
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Thexalon on Thursday August 31 2017, @01:48PM (2 children)
No, it's because the USA regularly turns a blind eye to authoritarian governments that massacre their own people. For example, when the people of Bahrain tried to do what the Tunisians and Egyptians had done in overthrowing their oppressive governments, the Bahraini government sent in the police to kill, arrest and torture everybody involved, and this didn't even raise an eyebrow in the USA. And then there's what the USA did about Sudan's government basically killing everybody they could get their hands on in Darfur: absolutely nothing. And Dubai enslaves thousands and routinely tortures people as well, with again not the slightest bit of complaint from the USA.
Moral outrages only become problems for the freedom-loving USA if the leader of a country won't sell off their oil and natural gas at a price Western companies like (e.g. Libya, Venezuela, and Iraq) or won't allow pipelines through their territory at a price Western companies like (e.g. Afghanistan, Syria).
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday August 31 2017, @02:10PM (1 child)
You do realize that the hegemony isn't just "The United States", don't you? It is actually the US/UK/British Commonwealth countries, with a helluva lotta assistance from western Europe. Basically, NATO. If it were JUST the US, things might be pretty crappy, but they wouldn't be what they are. Let's remember who toppled the Ottoman. And, on whose behalf the US ran their coup on Iran.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday August 31 2017, @02:26PM
Yes, I do realize that the rest of NATO has something to do with that pattern. However, since NATO largely goes the way the US goes, I don't see them as all that separate.
Also, other NATO countries don't have presidents publicly admiring and shielding from prosecution people like Henry Kissinger who regularly put forward the idea that war crimes are just fine.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Thursday August 31 2017, @05:07PM
No, [businessinsider.com] he can only pardon federal criminals, not state or city criminals. That's why Mueller is working with New York's AG.
Carbon, The only element in the known universe to ever gain sentience
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 30 2017, @11:24PM (2 children)
Federal law and state law are two, wholly separate things. Crimes against persons are almost always prosecuted by the state. The president can not override the state in this regard, as his power is only for federal crimes.
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday August 30 2017, @11:49PM (1 child)
Federal law and state law are two, wholly separate things. Crimes against persons are almost always prosecuted by the state. The president can not override the state in this regard, as his power is only for federal crimes.
That's true.
DC isn't a state, though.
the President’s authority to grant clemency is limited to federal offenses and offenses prosecuted by the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia in the name of the United States in the D.C. Superior Court. [justice.gov]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 31 2017, @08:17PM
DC isn't a state, true. But it behaves like one in regards to this. Crimes against persons in DC are not crimes against the United States.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Sulla on Wednesday August 30 2017, @10:09PM
Trump may say that Erdogan is his buddy, but I highly doubt it is reciprocal. We have been doing a lot to provoke him recently, be it our support for the Kurds (and building military bases in their area) or supporting cease fires involving the Russians that go against Erdogan's interest.
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