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an Ohio bill [would] ban abortions in cases where a pregnant woman has had a positive test result or prenatal diagnosis indicating Down syndrome. Physicians convicted of performing an abortion under such circumstances could be charged with a fourth-degree felony, stripped of their medical license and held liable for legal damages. The pregnant woman would face no criminal liability.
Several other states have considered similar measures, triggering emotional debate over women's rights, parental love, and the trust between doctor and patient.
The Ohio bill's chief Senate sponsor, Republican Sen. Frank LaRose, said Republican lawmakers accelerated the measure after hearing a mid-August CBS News report on Iceland's high rate of abortions in cases involving Down syndrome. The report asserted Iceland had come close to "eradicating" such births.
[...] Doctors and medical students are fighting the measure.
Parvaneh Nouri, a third-year medical student at Wright State University, told lawmakers it would do little to stop abortions but could stop information-sharing between patients and their doctors.
“It destroys the trust of our patients, for which we have worked tirelessly over generations of physicians to cultivate,” she said.
Indiana's version of the law has been blocked by a federal judge while North Dakota's law has gone unchallenged due to the state's only abortion clinic not performing abortions after 16 weeks. An Oklahoma bill that would prohibit abortions based on any genetic abnormalities did not reach the state Senate.
Previously: Down Syndrome Births Nearly Eliminated in Iceland
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @01:54PM (11 children)
while correct, I doubt your statement "Allah = Jehovah = Yahweh" will be taken seriously by anyone who takes their religion seriously.
in fact I bet it would get you killed in some places.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @02:46PM (9 children)
Err, Muslims ASSERT that it's the same god. Their issue is that other people are worshiping him wrong.
You do know that they trace back to the same Abraham that Christians and Jews do, right?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @03:26PM (2 children)
You're right. That's why all three religions get along so famously. That's why the Catholics and Protestants have always gotten along so well too.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @03:57PM (1 child)
Yep. Sunni and Shia as well. Let's also not forget Eastern Orthodox. It's just one big, happy Yahweh-worshiping family.
Hopefully this all illustrates how fucking stupid the whole sky wizard idea is. Ever since Abraham had some crazy command hallucinations [wikipedia.org] while dehydrated in a desert and probably high on camel jenkem, every so often somebody comes along and suddenly realizes "omg, the priests are worshiping Yahweh wrong! here is my lawyer-like interpretation of the etymology of a solitary word that proves that only I know the one true way to worship Yahweh!"
Then everybody starts killing each other over who has the more correct way of worshiping the imaginary sky daddy.
Damned thing gets forked more often than a github project.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @03:13AM
The best God joke ever--and it's mine! by Emo Philips [theguardian.com]
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by TheGratefulNet on Tuesday September 26 2017, @03:55PM
joke time:
Benjamin Netanyahu and Mahmoud Abbas are about to begin negotiations over the distribution of land for Palestinians, when Netanyahu says, "Before we start the meeting, I want to tell an old Passover story."
"When Moses was leading the Jews out of Egypt toward the Promised Land, he had to go through the nearly endless Sinai desert. When they reached the Promised Land, the people had become very thirsty and needed water. So Moses struck the side of a mountain with his staff and a pond appeared with crystal clean, cool water. The people rejoiced and drank to their hearts' content. Moses put down his staff and went to a solitary corner of the pond to drink, and meditate in prayer. But once Moses returned, he found that his staff had been stolen."
"I have reason to believe that the Palestinians stole the staff of our great Prophet Moses."
Abbas, hearing this accusation, jumps from his seat and screams out, "This is a travesty. It is widely known that there were no such thing as 'Palestinians' at that time!"
"And with that in mind," says Netanyahu, "let's start the meeting."
"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday September 26 2017, @04:39PM (4 children)
Who and/or what, exactly, traces back to Abraham? In theory at least, every Jew in the world can count Abraham as a direct forebear. (Well, at least those who can afford four bears.) Christians? Not only no, but HELL NO!! Ditto for Muslims. Some few Muslims can claim Mohammed as an ancestor, but Mohammed can't claim descent from Abraham.
But, yeah, Muslims do CLAIM that they worship the same God that Jews and Christians worship. That is more than enough to confuse most nonbelievers.
(Score: 4, Informative) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday September 26 2017, @05:22PM (3 children)
Hmm?
The Abram/Abraham legend is the basis of ritual infant genital mutilation in Christianity. Christian Identity, for example, claims that Caucasians are the lost tribe of Israel, direct descendants of Abraham, and the 144,000 some odd elect in Revelation.
I went to the usual sources, but then I realized this [conservapedia.com] might be a better summary. Even includes the claim “Arab Muslims trace their lineage back to Abraham (known as Ibrahim) through his son Ishmael.”
(Score: 1) by Type44Q on Tuesday September 26 2017, @08:25PM (1 child)
That's a Jewish practice, not Christian.
(Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday September 26 2017, @09:45PM
Ah, my bad. I tried searching, but Luke 2:21 didn't help. So I checked Matthew 5 and found something along those lines in verses 17–20 MSG. Jesus is addressing “those who were apprenticed to him” after climbing a hillside to find somewhere quiet away from the crowds his ministry was drawing:
My lack of familiarity with the source material must be leading me astray. Where may I find the part that says that Christians have been deluded about male circumcision and its necessity as part of Yahweh's covenant with Abraham for about the past century or two?
(Score: 2) by dry on Wednesday September 27 2017, @01:03AM
My understanding is that it was another case of the all loving Father God playing favourites between two brothers, again. The Jews descended from the favoured brother and the Arabs from the unfavoured brother.
Got to love Gods morals.
(Score: 3, Informative) by NotSanguine on Tuesday September 26 2017, @02:52PM
That's unsurprising. Anyone who is gullible enough to subscribe to such demonstrably false belief systems will likely believe all manner of moronic bullshit.
Especially in the U.S., as Peter Medawar observed [anvari.org]:
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr