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posted by martyb on Monday November 13 2017, @02:06PM   Printer-friendly
from the cleaning-up dept.

Claiming a shortage of workers for the hospitality industry, Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago club has requested and obtained permission to hire 70 foreign workers. The claim of a shortage of available workers is disputed:

'"We currently have 5,136 qualified candidates in Palm Beach County for various hospitality positions listed in the Employ Florida state jobs database," CareerSource spokesman Tom Veenstra said Friday.'

70 is a slight increase over last year, when 64 foreign workers were hired.

"Making America Great Again" by hiring foreigners? Perhaps what is required is higher pay, not foreigners.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Whoever on Monday November 13 2017, @04:01PM (18 children)

    by Whoever (4524) on Monday November 13 2017, @04:01PM (#596236) Journal

    Wow, just wow!

    You really are in denial about the Republicans aren't you.

    Blame the current state of affairs on Clinton, Wasserman-Schultz, and their close cadre. Corruption lost the election.

    Your rant was missing something about her emails, but apart from that, a pretty comprehensive application of blame on the wrong people. Many people (you included?) supported Trump despite all the evidence that came out before the election that showed his was a grifter with limited intelligence.

    Next time you don't like what is going on in the country, instead of blaming Democrats, take a look in the mirror.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday November 13 2017, @04:24PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 13 2017, @04:24PM (#596258) Journal

    No, I was never a Trump supporter. I voted for Johnson, this time around. I refused to give my blessing, however grudging, to either of the royal asses the rest of the country was fighting over.

    Denial? What on earth am I denying? I'm openly admitting that neither Trump nor Hillary are fit for any office, at any level of government. The alternatives weren't much better, but they were at least somewhat better. Corruption pervades the D and the R party.

    You appear to be denying that Hillary is corrupt. Is that what you are referring to with your denial statement? Tell me, what would Hillary NOT have sold to the highest bidder?

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Gaaark on Monday November 13 2017, @05:05PM (10 children)

    by Gaaark (41) on Monday November 13 2017, @05:05PM (#596303) Journal

    You really do need to take a step back and listen to Runaway: BOTH candidates you had were shite. Trump is an ass, but Hillary corrupted her party from the inside SOLELY for the purpose of winning. Both candidates are losers, and America lost no matter who won.

    You DO need to start supporting a 3+ party system, or you WILL be stuck with corrupt leaders.

    Picking Trump or Hillary is like picking shit or poo.

    You NEED better choices.

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    --- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 13 2017, @06:28PM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 13 2017, @06:28PM (#596359)

      You really do need to take a step back and listen to Runaway:

      Dude! Seriously! NO ONE ever needs to do this! I mean, really???

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by Gaaark on Monday November 13 2017, @08:08PM (5 children)

        by Gaaark (41) on Monday November 13 2017, @08:08PM (#596420) Journal

        I know, right!?! :)

        But in THIS case, he IS right.

        The REAL choice, Bernie, was corruptly stolen away and Americans were left with shoe-shit for both the Left AND the Right.

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        --- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 13 2017, @09:29PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 13 2017, @09:29PM (#596472)

          Bernie chose to align himself with the democrats rather than remaining on the Independent ticket and catapulting a third party into the election discussions.

          If either the Green or Libertarian parties had gotten the 5+ percent this election we could start having a real discussion about change in America, since they would have qualified for the federal advertising funds next election. That would have had more of an effect in 4 years than either Clinton or Trump getting elected this time around. But Americans have proven themselves the stupid, jingoistic idiots that foreigners love to insult us as, by voting for Trump and Clinton to a reasonably narrow margin, neither of which won over 50 percent of the popular vote. When a president isn't even starting with a 50-51 percent approval rating, you already know something is wrong with the system. In America's case the real question is: What isn't wrong with the system?

          It is time to have a serious, calm, and rational discussion on this, between the two stupid masses of sheeple, as well as the kooks and rationals of that remaining ~4 percent.

        • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Monday November 13 2017, @09:32PM (3 children)

          by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Monday November 13 2017, @09:32PM (#596478) Homepage Journal

          It was rigged and #CrazyBernie [twitter.com] got schlonged. Donna Brazile said so in her book Hacked. But now she says it wasn't rigged. She told the #FakeNews [twitter.com] ABC and CBS it wasn't rigged. Because that's what they want to hear. That's the only way they'll cover her, is if she says it wasn't rigged. And she needs to get out the word about her book, needs to sell her book, so she says it wasn't. Folks, it was rigged. You pick up her book, she says it very clearly in there. But the #MSM [twitter.com] don't want to report that. They will never, ever report that. Because they're in the pocket of the #CrookedClintons [twitter.com]. Who have left a long, long trail of corpses behind them. From #VinceFoster [twitter.com] to #SethRich [twitter.com] and beyond. 🇺🇸

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 14 2017, @12:12AM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 14 2017, @12:12AM (#596557)

            It took you a while, but you're getting really good at the spoof trump.

      • (Score: 2, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday November 13 2017, @09:58PM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday November 13 2017, @09:58PM (#596498) Journal

        Yes, really. I probably give him more of the internet equivalent of catapult-launched sacks of flaming shit than anyone else on this site and I still mod him up when he says something insightful or informative. A true thing is true no matter who says it. He's not intellectually disabled; he's evil. There is a difference.

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    • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday November 13 2017, @10:42PM (1 child)

      by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Monday November 13 2017, @10:42PM (#596529)

      I don't think there is a hope in hell of the US ever getting new parties elected, as the Democrats and Republicans have gerrymandered the entire system from top to bottom.

      When I point out to Americans that the UK, a nation of 64 million (or so) has 8 parties in their parliament, even with the awful first-past-the-post system in place, they point to the fact that the US parties are "big tent" parties, as if that is a good thing.

      What it tells me is that the US is not really a democracy, and these guys agree with me, [cnbc.com] although I'm not sure I entirely agree with their methodology.

      Princeton's study is probably better [cambridge.org] and comes to similar conclusions.

      Of course the US has the best propaganda in the world, so the average American thinks their system of government is great, the best.

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 14 2017, @03:07AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 14 2017, @03:07AM (#596637)

        There's a book called "Human Universals". It's a serious anthropological study of every human culture possible, searching for the root common qualities they all share with each other.

        One of these common qualities is the de-facto system of government. Behind the facade all governments are the same, from primitive tribes to super powers. It's called Oligarchy.

        The part you're able to see is just the popularity show. Guns, Gay Marriage, Abortion, Immigration... Rich and powerful people don't care about any of those things. It's a distraction to keep us busy, like a magicians misdirection. The real decisions about things that really matter (the wealth and power of a country) happen behind closed doors. They always have. Today is no different.

  • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by stretch611 on Monday November 13 2017, @05:12PM (1 child)

    by stretch611 (6199) on Monday November 13 2017, @05:12PM (#596310)

    Hillary is the one that refuses to look in the mirror. She has blamed everyone else for her losing the election to Trump. It was Bernie disrupting loyal democrat voters, it was Comey and mentioning email issues, it was Russia hacking. After all, she deserved it and was entitled to the presidency.

    What a load of crap.

    I do honestly believe that Hillary would be doing a better job at president right now than Trump is. Congress surely wouldn't have wasted 6 months trying to replace Obamacare with "No care except for millionaires." She wouldn't be having a d!ck p!ssing contest with North Korea over twitter. She wouldn't have had the FCC gut all network neutrality, eliminate consumer privacy protection at ISPs, or fight against community broadband. She wouldn't be trying to completely subvert the CFRB and toss it out (admittedly with her banker friends she probably would have tried to weaken some things there) She wouldn't have hired Betsy Devos to f-over students while letting bad for-profit colleges and the loan industry rape them raw. She probably would have had a response sent to PR, instead of having less than 50% power restored to the island 2 months after the hurricane struck. Not to mention remove all references in government to "climate change" and withdraw from the paris accords. Or refuse to divest stocks into a blind trust let alone still own/control a private hotel chain. (and the list goes on and on...)

    That being said... I wouldn't vote for hillary. She is a crook. Her whole platform was I'm not Trump. She had no real plan or election message. After all, she thought she was entitled to it. And against Trump... Half the Republican party hated Trump before the election what did she have to worry about... of course she doesn't believe that half the Democrats hate her as well. (This truly was an election of the absolute worse candidates ever... I'd rather have G. Bush for a 3rd term than either of the 2 major candidates that our awful 2 party system left us with.) I actually voted for Obama... twice... and did not regret it... But last year... I too voted for Johnson because the other choices were f-ing horrible.

    TL:DR. Hillary would have been better than Trump but she did nothing to prove to voters that she should be elected and loss it due to her lack of actually campaigning. She thought it was in the bag and her entitlement, only to blame others when she lost.

    The 2 party system does nothing but keep the worse of us in power and forces people to choose the lesser of two evils. (and damn, there were few people/things lesser than these two.) Until people actually vote 3rd party, nothing will improve with the 2 rotting parties currently in charge.

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    • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Monday November 13 2017, @08:16PM

      by Gaaark (41) on Monday November 13 2017, @08:16PM (#596427) Journal

      I think she wouldn't have come off as sooooooo insane, but I think she would have fucked Americans as much, she just would have hidden it better.

      That aside, yes you need s third party down there. Bernie should run independently and have his slogan as "I won't fuck your asses like the other guys have".
      Or.... Whatever.

      Fecking Hillary. Fecking Trump. You need REAL change, REAL choice.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 13 2017, @08:32PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 13 2017, @08:32PM (#596437)

    Given a few $million, could you end up with a few $billion? Could a person with "limited intelligence" do this? (without taking bribes to sell uranium!)

    Heck, could a person with "limited intelligence" get elected president? I suggest you try.

    The fact that Trump does things you find offensive or confusing does not mean he has limited intelligence. If anything, it suggests this about those who disagree.

    Meanwhile, repeated strokes have an impact on intelligence. The main alternative for our country, Hillary Clinton, is suffering from this problem.

  • (Score: 2) by GlennC on Monday November 13 2017, @09:10PM (1 child)

    by GlennC (3656) on Monday November 13 2017, @09:10PM (#596462)

    I have to say I'm with Runaway on this one. I voted for Stein in the General election, but in the "Democratic" primary I voted for Sanders.

    There's no way I would have voted for either of the corrupt clowns representing the "major" parties. I wouldn't trust either of them to lead a pack of Cub Scouts, let alone a nation.

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    Sorry folks...the world is bigger and more varied than you want it to be. Deal with it.
    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 14 2017, @04:05AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 14 2017, @04:05AM (#596656)

      in the "Democratic" primary I voted for Sanders

      Your pattern and mine match.

      In California, The Blues will allow Non-Blues to cross party lines and vote for Dems in the primary.
      (The Greens don't allow this and I'm registered non-partisan.)
      You ask for a Democratic crossover ballot. [google.com]

      DO NOT accept a "provisional" ballot (AKA a placebo ballot).
      N.B. A federal law says that if there is a registration irregularity, you must be offered a "provisional" ballot; it does NOT say that those must be counted (and, as a rule, they aren't).

      ...and poll workers are typically eager to push placebo ballots.
      When my polling place moved by a few hundred yards and I went to the old location out of habit, the gal offered me one of those damned palacebo ballots instead of first telling me that I should go down to the corner (another polling place) and check there.

      I listen to Pacific Radio and they do a great job of explaining this stuff repeatedly.
      I assume that anyone consuming only Lamestream Media (which includes NPR and PBS) missed this.

      Word is, there were 2 million votes for Bernie in California's primary that didn't get counted. [google.com]

      .
      I had previously had another crappy poll worker who wouldn't give me a paper ballot after I had signed the roll.
      This is how I found out for myself that placebo ballots are total crap.
      That's what the poll worker gave me and the authorities mailed me a notice that said mine was rejected.
      Now I insist that they show me my paper ballot before I sign anything.

      .
      I'm now wondering if Organized Labor will abandon The Blues and throw their weight behind a 3rd party in 2018 and 2020.

      -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

  • (Score: 2) by sjames on Tuesday November 14 2017, @01:42AM

    by sjames (2882) on Tuesday November 14 2017, @01:42AM (#596601) Journal

    There is plentyu of blame to be had by the Republicans, but the Democrats worked hard to earn their share of blame. The Rs offered a candidate so bad even many Rs didn't want to vote for him. Meanwhile, the Ds had a candidate that was actually bringing people out to vote who never bothered before. Bit NOOOOOOOO, they had to sandbag the favorite and coronate Hillary instead because of some misguided idea that it was her turn (and let democracy be damned for saying otherwise).

    They wrapped up the election and handed it to Trump on a silver platter. It wasn't easy, but they managed it.