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posted by martyb on Tuesday December 05 2017, @05:57PM   Printer-friendly
from the all-your-coin-are-belong-to-us dept.

In May, the bill S.1241 (archive) was introduced in the U.S. Senate by Chuck Grassley, a Republican Senator from Iowa. The bill, if enacted, would call upon the Department of Homeland Security to develop

a strategy to interdict and detect prepaid access devices, digital currencies, or other similar instruments, at border crossings and other ports of entry for the United States

According to a story at btcmanager.com (square brackets in original),

the bill would "criminalize [those] intentionally concealing ownership or control of a [digital currency or digital exchange] account.

The Senate held a meeting about the bill on November 28. Witnesses included Charles Davidson of the Kleptocracy Initiative of the Hudson Institute conservative think tank; Douglas Farah of IBI Consultants, which specializes in "issues of national security, transnational crime, terrorism, terror finance and non-state armed actors"; and Kathryn Haun Rodriguez of Coinbase, a cryptocurrency exchange. Ms. Haun, however, made no mention of cryptocurrency in her testimony (PDF).


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  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday December 05 2017, @10:40PM (3 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 05 2017, @10:40PM (#605862) Journal

    Data can be hidden right in plain sight. An IoT device could have extra storage with a few added files added to it. Even if they are looking for data bearing devices, they are not going to attempt to search them all. Such as an IoT teddy bear. Or IoT electric razor with web based interface to check the battery level along with history of how many times you have used it and for what durations.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 06 2017, @12:36AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 06 2017, @12:36AM (#605917)

    Yes they will. They can just take your stuff and never give it back to you. They have all the time they could want in searching your stuff and if you lie about anything then that's it for you. They can also follow you back to your home and effectively kidnap you. The majority of the population lives within the constitution-free border zones which covers everywhere within 100 miles of the border, and the border includes all international airports in the country. It's not abused too often, but they already have the power.

    If you get raided by the FBI, they take everything electronic and keep it.

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday December 06 2017, @04:38PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 06 2017, @04:38PM (#606192) Journal

      Increasingly every day things contain electronics that could be subverted to hide information. Toasters. TV sets. Children's toys. Meanwhile, information can be stored on a micro-SD card smaller than your fingernail which could be cleverly hidden in numerous places.

      Are you suggesting the TLAs are going to start taking every innocent looking electronic item from everyone all the time because someone might be smuggling information in or out of the country?

      Better yet, publish this information in a book. The dead-tree format of book. Not an e-book. A book like Applied Cryptography. Would this book be stopped from being brought in or out of the country?

      What if the code to access your bitcoins is penciled lightly somewhere in the pages of a very innocent looking paper back novel you are carrying?

      As for what you say, I actually agree. We are becoming, if not have already become a police state. The line is fuzzy. Sort of like the event horizon of a black hole. It is difficult to know when you have crossed over. Just as with the tipping point for Microsoft's best days being behind it. I predicted it, but I said (years ago) that we wouldn't recognize it for sure until it was already behind us. Similarly with the black hole and the police state.

      We already have:

      Secret Laws
      Secret Interpretations of Laws1
      Secret Courts 2
      Secret Warrants
      Secret Court Orders
      Secret Trials
      Secret Evidence3
      Secret Convictions
      Secret Prisons4
      Secrete Enhanced Interrogation

      It sounds like we've become everything we were fighting in the previous century.

      1TLAs claim their interpretation of certain laws must remain secret, otherwise people might try to comply with how they are interpreting the law and thus could not be arrested
      2FISA, others
      3evidence not made available to the defense. Stingray for instance.
      4Gitmo, other black sites in countries that practice torture

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  • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday December 06 2017, @12:31PM

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Wednesday December 06 2017, @12:31PM (#606108) Homepage Journal

    ... on the side of a wall in downtown Camden New Jersey.

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